Beyond The Blue - Important Announcement

MattW · 10th April 2007, 12:35

Well, at least this one's free and I won't lose most of a 12 month subscription when it folds (like I did with 9-90).

Matt

Moray Brown · 10th April 2007, 17:45

Ermmm, did this actually happen?

MattW · 11th April 2007, 13:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by Moray Brown)

Ermmm, did this actually happen?

Not sure I follow you.
If you're asking 'did I lose most of a 12 month subscription when 9-90 folded', then the answer is emphatically 'yes'.

In the end it hardly broke the bank, but I never saw a penny in recompense, free back issues etc, etc (as was talked about after the event) and the owner / editor is happily launching new titles, which does vex me ever so slightly....

Matt

***Beanie*** · 11th April 2007, 13:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by MattW)

Not sure I follow you.
If you're asking 'did I lose most of a 12 month subscription when 9-90 folded', then the answer is emphatically 'yes'.

In the end it hardly broke the bank, but I never saw a penny in recompense, free back issues etc, etc (as was talked about after the event) and the owner / editor is happily launching new titles, which does vex me ever so slightly....

Matt

ditto there were a few people who this happened too, there was lots of talk of beyond the blue subscriptions to replace non delivered 990 copies but nothing happened.

Ben Field · 11th April 2007, 13:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by MattW)

In the end it hardly broke the bank, but I never saw a penny in recompense, free back issues etc, etc (as was talked about after the event) and the owner / editor is happily launching new titles, which does vex me ever so slightly....Matt

Matt,

IIRC, 9-90 backers/publishers got bought out then sunk, nothing directly to do with the editor, so I think (don't quote me) you're vexed with the wrong person.

Moray Brown · 11th April 2007, 15:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by MattW)

Not sure I follow you.
If you're asking 'did I lose most of a 12 month subscription when 9-90 folded', then the answer is emphatically 'yes'.

In the end it hardly broke the bank, but I never saw a penny in recompense, free back issues etc, etc (as was talked about after the event) and the owner / editor is happily launching new titles, which does vex me ever so slightly....

Matt

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

ditto there were a few people who this happened too, there was lots of talk of beyond the blue subscriptions to replace non delivered 990 copies but nothing happened.

No, my post was aimed at did the download become available on the date mentioned... Easter Weekend I think was mentioned?

***Beanie*** · 11th April 2007, 15:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by Moray Brown)

No, my post was aimed at did the download become available on the date mentioned... Easter Weekend I think was mentioned?

well I can't see it on the website

decoweenie · 11th April 2007, 15:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by MattW)

If you're asking 'did I lose most of a 12 month subscription when 9-90 folded', then the answer is emphatically 'yes'.

The same happened to me, and others have explained why.

However, Ron made up (to me) with back-issues of Beyond The Blue as replacement. And when I had a contact issue after subscribed to BTB afterward, he did the same once I have made a successful contact to Ron.

In my case, he always came thru with what was due to me. Some hick-ups along the way but I always got what I paid for.

So just be persistent and try to contact Ron, he will make it right...

Midnight · 11th April 2007, 21:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

In my case, he always came thru with what was due to me. Some hick-ups along the way but I always got what I paid for.

So just be persistent and try to contact Ron, he will make it right...

Yep, same here. Ron can get a bit testy sometimes but if you treat him as you want him to treat you he will usually respond well.

Regards
Midnight

MattW · 12th April 2007, 08:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by Midnight)

Yep, same here. Ron can get a bit testy sometimes but if you treat him as you want him to treat you he will usually respond well.

Regards
Midnight

To be honest, for me it's more to do with the principle than being out of pocket. When 9-90 folded I just thought 'ah well, sh*t happens' and felt sorry for the people who'd probably lost their jobs as a result. However, when 'Beyond The Blue' subsequently launched I must admit that I felt a bit miffed and vowed that I'd never spend my money on another publication edited / owned by Ron Mahoney. If the new incarnation of the magazine is free, then I will of course read it (although it'll be the pdf's as I find the 'super duper page turning .exe file' to be gimmicky and irritating - content sells magazines, not daft presentation formats).

I also wish Ron well in his new venture - as I said earlier, at least readers wont lose money if it goes belly-up. It remains to be seen how it'll turn out - a 100% advertising funded magazine must be a tricky proposition to make work. I hope it doesn't turn into a series of insipid, gushing 'product reviews', forever fearful of criticising a current / potential advertisers products and hence losing revenue - time will tell.

cheers

Matt

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MattW New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cheshire, UK Posts: 22	Re: Beyond The Blue - Important Announcement Well, at least this one's free and I won't lose most of a 12 month subscription when it folds (like I did with 9-90). Matt
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Moray Brown Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WMUK Posts: 230	Re: Beyond The Blue - Important Announcement Ermmm, did this actually happen?
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MattW New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cheshire, UK Posts: 22	Re: Beyond The Blue - Important Announcement Quote: (Originally Posted by Moray Brown) Ermmm, did this actually happen? Not sure I follow you. If you're asking 'did I lose most of a 12 month subscription when 9-90 folded', then the answer is emphatically 'yes'. In the end it hardly broke the bank, but I never saw a penny in recompense, free back issues etc, etc (as was talked about after the event) and the owner / editor is happily launching new titles, which does vex me ever so slightly.... Matt
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*Beanie* Close to that red button Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,207	Re: Beyond The Blue - Important Announcement Quote: (Originally Posted by MattW) Not sure I follow you. If you're asking 'did I lose most of a 12 month subscription when 9-90 folded', then the answer is emphatically 'yes'. In the end it hardly broke the bank, but I never saw a penny in recompense, free back issues etc, etc (as was talked about after the event) and the owner / editor is happily launching new titles, which does vex me ever so slightly.... Matt ditto there were a few people who this happened too, there was lots of talk of beyond the blue subscriptions to replace non delivered 990 copies but nothing happened. __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk www.divelife.co.uk
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Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,571	Re: Beyond The Blue - Important Announcement Quote: (Originally Posted by MattW) In the end it hardly broke the bank, but I never saw a penny in recompense, free back issues etc, etc (as was talked about after the event) and the owner / editor is happily launching new titles, which does vex me ever so slightly....Matt Matt, IIRC, 9-90 backers/publishers got bought out then sunk, nothing directly to do with the editor, so I think (don't quote me) you're vexed with the wrong person. __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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Moray Brown Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WMUK Posts: 230	Re: Beyond The Blue - Important Announcement Quote: (Originally Posted by MattW) Not sure I follow you. If you're asking 'did I lose most of a 12 month subscription when 9-90 folded', then the answer is emphatically 'yes'. In the end it hardly broke the bank, but I never saw a penny in recompense, free back issues etc, etc (as was talked about after the event) and the owner / editor is happily launching new titles, which does vex me ever so slightly.... Matt Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) ditto there were a few people who this happened too, there was lots of talk of beyond the blue subscriptions to replace non delivered 990 copies but nothing happened. No, my post was aimed at did the download become available on the date mentioned... Easter Weekend I think was mentioned?
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decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Beyond The Blue - Important Announcement Quote: (Originally Posted by MattW) If you're asking 'did I lose most of a 12 month subscription when 9-90 folded', then the answer is emphatically 'yes'. The same happened to me, and others have explained why. However, Ron made up (to me) with back-issues of Beyond The Blue as replacement. And when I had a contact issue after subscribed to BTB afterward, he did the same once I have made a successful contact to Ron. In my case, he always came thru with what was due to me. Some hick-ups along the way but I always got what I paid for. So just be persistent and try to contact Ron, he will make it right... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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Midnight 00:00 Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Co. Meath Eire Posts: 33	Re: Beyond The Blue - Important Announcement Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) In my case, he always came thru with what was due to me. Some hick-ups along the way but I always got what I paid for. So just be persistent and try to contact Ron, he will make it right... Yep, same here. Ron can get a bit testy sometimes but if you treat him as you want him to treat you he will usually respond well. Regards Midnight __________________ Do I miss the twinset?? Yes........ No......... No........ Yes...... No........ Well definately Yes or No....... Can I get back to you on that.
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MattW New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Cheshire, UK Posts: 22	Re: Beyond The Blue - Important Announcement Quote: (Originally Posted by Midnight) Yep, same here. Ron can get a bit testy sometimes but if you treat him as you want him to treat you he will usually respond well. Regards Midnight To be honest, for me it's more to do with the principle than being out of pocket. When 9-90 folded I just thought 'ah well, sht happens' and felt sorry for the people who'd probably lost their jobs as a result. However, when 'Beyond The Blue' subsequently launched I must admit that I felt a bit miffed and vowed that I'd never spend my money on another publication edited / owned by Ron Mahoney. If the new incarnation of the magazine is free, then I will of course read it (although it'll be the pdf's as I find the 'super duper page turning .exe file' to be gimmicky and irritating - content sells magazines, not daft presentation formats). I also wish Ron well in his new venture - as I said earlier, at least readers wont lose money if it goes belly-up. It remains to be seen how it'll turn out - a 100% advertising funded magazine must be a tricky proposition to make work. I hope it doesn't turn into a series of insipid, gushing 'product reviews', forever fearful of criticising a current / potential advertisers products and hence losing revenue - time will tell. cheers Matt Last edited by MattW : 12th April 2007 at 08:51.*
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