WTB: Two RB80's

Scuba_Vixen · 16th April 2006, 00:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by Marvintpa)

While I am not a DIR flag waver, I must admit there are elements of the system I quite agree with, and the training has been very good, in my humble opinion.

I'm actually in complete agreement with you on this.

I had been hoping to keep those three letters out of this thread, however.

It's hard not to ask about a DIR connection with respect to the RB80, unrefined edition.

Actually,
Considering the cost of the RB80, versus the cost of ccr, and the relative merrits of each, it's even harder not to ask.

The 3 letters were in NO Way meant to be derogatory or demeaning.

Darlene

vlada · 16th April 2006, 01:08

I can appreciate the virtues of German engineering and quality. I'm under the impression that's where the RB80 is made, or at the very least, designed. REINHARD BUCHALY is German, is he not?

I had heard a rumour they were considering making some changes to the RB80, is anyone familiar with that?

***caveseeker7*** · 16th April 2006, 03:39

Marvintpa, not much wrong with DIR, it's just that what little is wrong with it usually is a deal breaker. They do teach lots of good stuff. Was just having a bit of fun, hope it didn't offend you.

vlada, the RB80 is indeed Rebreather's design, and he builds the units for and used by WKPP. The Halcyon RB80 is build by Halcyon and the unit that is commercially available. Michael (db8us) can probably fill you in on any differences between the two units or changes if there are any.

Marvintpa · 16th April 2006, 05:45

No harm no foul Caveseeker. I just prefer to avoid the DIR battles, there's really no point in them - ya either think it's a good idea or a stupid one, and it's no skin off my nose whichever way people prefer (the horse is truly dead, it needs no further beating).

I certainly appreciate the lack of an agenda most people on this particular board have, it's quite refreshing (and the top notch information isn't too bad either).

cameron · 16th April 2006, 06:07

I would imagine that getting a RB80 second hand would be rather.... difficult... to say the least.

Whats the asking price for a new one anyway??

Marvintpa · 16th April 2006, 06:27

Cameron, I do believe you are entirely right. As I believe I mentioned in my first post, I' guessing this request is a longshot.

I'm under the impression the new price, depending on options, is in the ballpark of $9,000 US.

denzel · 16th April 2006, 14:48

Quote:

I can appreciate the virtues of German engineering and quality. I'm under the impression that's where the RB80 is made, or at the very least, designed. REINHARD BUCHALY is German, is he not?

I had heard a rumour they were considering making some changes to the RB80, is anyone familiar with that?

Yeah I heard the same. Supposedly they gonna add a KISS valve, but this could be just a rumour......

denz.

db8us · 19th April 2006, 16:00

KISS-Valve ???
Nope...
Reinhard changed just some very small things like a diameter here or there or different mushroom-valves etc. or inner counter-lungs for ratio, but thi was mainly for "try-out"-things.

And today he would not talk about changes any more, because then all the copiers would be on it...

And let´s put it this way:
a strong training with strong standards and procedures in place are really essential IMHO for surviving breather-divers.
And this should be reflected in trainings, no matter how may letters you want to call it.
I saw training for pSCR that was wrong in its theory, lousy under water and "anarchistic" in procedures. Trust me that we will soon hear more about dead people on pSCR !

16th April 2006, 00:02	#11 (permalink)
Scuba_Vixen e/mCCR Dolphin Pilot Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: St. Croix USVI Posts: 557	Re: WTB: Two RB80's Quote: (Originally Posted by Marvintpa) While I am not a DIR flag waver, I must admit there are elements of the system I quite agree with, and the training has been very good, in my humble opinion. I'm actually in complete agreement with you on this. I had been hoping to keep those three letters out of this thread, however. It's hard not to ask about a DIR connection with respect to the RB80, unrefined edition. Actually, Considering the cost of the RB80, versus the cost of ccr, and the relative merrits of each, it's even harder not to ask. The 3 letters were in NO Way meant to be derogatory or demeaning. Darlene
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16th April 2006, 01:08	#12 (permalink)
vlada Diver with a camera Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 69	Re: WTB: Two RB80's I can appreciate the virtues of German engineering and quality. I'm under the impression that's where the RB80 is made, or at the very least, designed. REINHARD BUCHALY is German, is he not? I had heard a rumour they were considering making some changes to the RB80, is anyone familiar with that?
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16th April 2006, 03:39	#13 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,451	Two RB80's indeed Marvintpa, not much wrong with DIR, it's just that what little is wrong with it usually is a deal breaker. They do teach lots of good stuff. Was just having a bit of fun, hope it didn't offend you. vlada, the RB80 is indeed Rebreather's design, and he builds the units for and used by WKPP. The Halcyon RB80 is build by Halcyon and the unit that is commercially available. Michael (db8us) can probably fill you in on any differences between the two units or changes if there are any. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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16th April 2006, 05:45	#14 (permalink)
Marvintpa Bad knees, matching brain Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 265	Re: WTB: Two RB80's No harm no foul Caveseeker. I just prefer to avoid the DIR battles, there's really no point in them - ya either think it's a good idea or a stupid one, and it's no skin off my nose whichever way people prefer (the horse is truly dead, it needs no further beating). I certainly appreciate the lack of an agenda most people on this particular board have, it's quite refreshing (and the top notch information isn't too bad either).
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16th April 2006, 06:07	#15 (permalink)
cameron Classic Kiss 124 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 252	Re: WTB: Two RB80's I would imagine that getting a RB80 second hand would be rather.... difficult... to say the least. Whats the asking price for a new one anyway??
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16th April 2006, 06:27	#16 (permalink)
Marvintpa Bad knees, matching brain Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 265	Re: WTB: Two RB80's Cameron, I do believe you are entirely right. As I believe I mentioned in my first post, I' guessing this request is a longshot. I'm under the impression the new price, depending on options, is in the ballpark of $9,000 US.
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16th April 2006, 14:48	#17 (permalink)
denzel Holiday diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Perth! Posts: 358	Re: WTB: Two RB80's Quote: I can appreciate the virtues of German engineering and quality. I'm under the impression that's where the RB80 is made, or at the very least, designed. REINHARD BUCHALY is German, is he not? I had heard a rumour they were considering making some changes to the RB80, is anyone familiar with that? Yeah I heard the same. Supposedly they gonna add a KISS valve, but this could be just a rumour...... denz. __________________ My deepest so far, 558.50 mtr, my rig a LF90D...
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19th April 2006, 16:00	#18 (permalink)
db8us Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 227	Re: WTB: Two RB80's KISS-Valve ??? Nope... Reinhard changed just some very small things like a diameter here or there or different mushroom-valves etc. or inner counter-lungs for ratio, but thi was mainly for "try-out"-things. And today he would not talk about changes any more, because then all the copiers would be on it... And let´s put it this way: a strong training with strong standards and procedures in place are really essential IMHO for surviving breather-divers. And this should be reflected in trainings, no matter how may letters you want to call it. I saw training for pSCR that was wrong in its theory, lousy under water and "anarchistic" in procedures. Trust me that we will soon hear more about dead people on pSCR !
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