FOR SALE: Evolution loaded with extras

***jradomski*** · 31st December 2006, 06:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by jepuskar)

Yes, but in order for this test to work and not affect the results you will need to follow my instructions without reading the outcome otherwise you could alter your breathing and give false results.

Read this first, dont read beneath the dotted line until after you jotted your results.

1) Measure at your chest level after inhaling fully. Measure all the way around your chest/back at nipple level. Record this measurement.

2) Measure from your crotch to your neck. Record this measurement.

3) Take a deep breath and exhale it all the way until you cant exhale anymore and then time how long it takes you to inhale a full breath until you cant inhale anymore. Measure this in seconds and record this result.

4) This time take a deep breath and time how long it takes you to exhale all the way until you cant anymore. Measure this in seconds and record the results.

Ok, once the above has been completed you may now scroll down and see which counterlung you fit in.

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Ok, the above is pretty much meaningless. Have a nice New Year!!!!

The way to measure what you need is to get dressed with the thermal protection you expect to use.. If your in cold water that means your drysuit and undergarments..

now measure from your belt up your back and over your shoulder back to your belt.. 110cm or more you need large lungs to have them sit confortably for use..

I'm 6ft, 220 lbs, in a drysuit with heavy undergarments the large lungs fit really nice, but in a 3mm wetsuit they are a little bigger than I would like and a medium would be perfect (but really unconfortable in a ds)...

**jepuskar** · 31st December 2006, 06:17

Joe,

Thanks for straightening that out.

decoweenie · 31st December 2006, 06:27

Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski)

...110cm or more you need large lungs to have them sit confortably for use..

Or 115cm with street cloth and a belt.

Section 4.1 in the APD manual gives a rough guide, but if more accurate measurements are needed, APD has a form that they sent out to all new customers to fill. Then the appropriate size could be selected.

Joe, could you please delete the joke from jepuskar from the thread, it creates confusion. Thanks!

***jradomski*** · 31st December 2006, 06:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Or 115cm with street cloth and a belt.

Section 4.1 in the APD manual gives a rough guide, but if more accurate measurements are needed, APD has a form that they sent out to all new customers to fill. Then the appropriate size could be selected.

Joe, could you please delete the joke from jepuskar from the thread, it creates confusion. Thanks!

Your right about the 115cm from AP, I don't agree with the suggestion just using trousers and shirt.. I found for cold water divers this tends to suggest more people to use the medium lungs and with heavy undergarments its too small..

When I originally measured myself, it would have suggested I use a medium.. Ok for a wetsuit but definately no good for a drysuit with heaqvy garments..

I rather err on the side of being larger than smaller when its close, so I use a little more restrictive limits for choosing the medium over the large.. (also if you need to take up a little of the length on the large you can always move thelungs further down the backplate), to use smaller lungs would require seperating the cl and using longer hoses from cannister to t pieces to move the lungs down the body a bit

decoweenie · 3rd January 2007, 12:48

Just found in dive room over X-mas, and will include in package if needed...

Medium harness (used condition)
3 x Evolution sensors

Should add US$500 value to the package...

decoweenie · 4th January 2007, 11:53

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Just found in dive room over X-mas, and will include in package if needed...

Medium harness (used condition)
3 x Evolution sensors

Should add US$500 value to the package...

Seeing that commercial handset covers are being offered, I will also include my 1-year-old self-made handset cover as well with the unit.

It protects the handset while diving, yet removable in seconds. And allows the use of bungies as adjustable straps.

Tony A · 9th January 2007, 10:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Seeing that commercial handset covers are being offered, I will also include my 1-year-old self-made handset cover as well with the unit.

It protects the handset while diving, yet removable in seconds. And allows the use of bungies as adjustable straps.

Can you send me any pic's of the gear you have for sale please!

decoweenie · 9th January 2007, 14:54

A couple of people were asking for the pics of the actual unit. So here they are:

The parts which are brand new as received from ADP, still in the original box.
This is my rig using only the scrubber, lid and regs from the unit.
This is the scrubber and lid on the work bench.
This is the brand new Travel-Frame with perforated and plain lids.

The BOV picture is already shown somewhere in a BOV thread in the past.

The unit is real, there are quite a number of people have seen it, some even dived it...

decoweenie · 18th January 2007, 06:52

Bump!

The 3 new cells are now installed in the lid since the previous ones were 14-month-old.

Also interested in trading for a Meg in same condition...

decoweenie · 11th February 2007, 21:16

FOR SALE

Evolution

Vision Nitrox / Trimix deco enabled
Temp-Stick
ADV installed with shut-off valve
Black/Grey Medium CL
Small harness
Original shipping box
Original PC download software/hardware
Original supplied accessories (i.e. IP checker, etc)
Custom strap/cover for handset.

Only the scrubber, regs and lid were used (with BMCL and Weenie-Frame).
The rest of unit (CL, tanks, wing, harness, etc) are used, in brand-new never-seen-water condition.

OPTION [1] - Unit Only

================================================== ===
Total retail cost $10,000 for everything listed above. Sell for US$8,000

OPTION [2] - Everything

Above with:

V4TEC BOV - brand new, never used, installed. Original DSV not included.
Travel-Frame - brand new, never used, both plain and perforated lids included.
Long Vision-Inspiration scrubber, sorb holder, and Temp-Stick

================================================== ====
Total retail cost $13,000 for everything listed above. Sell for US$10,500

Option [2] allows you to dive the unit as an Evolution (with original case and 2L tanks) or Vision-Inspiration (with Travel-Frame, optional 3L tanks). Or any combination thereof (short scrubber with Travel-Frame and 3L or 2L tanks, etc).

The fine print:

All items in UAE.
Prices not including shipping.
Ship by trackable courier only, at cost (corporate rate).
Payment via bank transfer, no PayPal.
Could be picked up in person, if desired.

============
UPDATE...
============

I will be in Texas from end of March for 2 weeks, and could bring the unit over to Houston.

31st December 2006, 06:10	#11 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,115	Re: FOR SALE: Evolution loaded with extras Quote: (Originally Posted by jepuskar) Yes, but in order for this test to work and not affect the results you will need to follow my instructions without reading the outcome otherwise you could alter your breathing and give false results. Read this first, dont read beneath the dotted line until after you jotted your results. 1) Measure at your chest level after inhaling fully. Measure all the way around your chest/back at nipple level. Record this measurement. 2) Measure from your crotch to your neck. Record this measurement. 3) Take a deep breath and exhale it all the way until you cant exhale anymore and then time how long it takes you to inhale a full breath until you cant inhale anymore. Measure this in seconds and record this result. 4) This time take a deep breath and time how long it takes you to exhale all the way until you cant anymore. Measure this in seconds and record the results. Ok, once the above has been completed you may now scroll down and see which counterlung you fit in. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ok, the above is pretty much meaningless. Have a nice New Year!!!! The way to measure what you need is to get dressed with the thermal protection you expect to use.. If your in cold water that means your drysuit and undergarments.. now measure from your belt up your back and over your shoulder back to your belt.. 110cm or more you need large lungs to have them sit confortably for use.. I'm 6ft, 220 lbs, in a drysuit with heavy undergarments the large lungs fit really nice, but in a 3mm wetsuit they are a little bigger than I would like and a medium would be perfect (but really unconfortable in a ds)... __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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31st December 2006, 06:17	#12 (permalink)
jepuskar NA Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 397	Re: FOR SALE: Evolution loaded with extras Joe, Thanks for straightening that out.
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31st December 2006, 06:27	#13 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: FOR SALE: Evolution loaded with extras Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski) ...110cm or more you need large lungs to have them sit confortably for use.. Or 115cm with street cloth and a belt. Section 4.1 in the APD manual gives a rough guide, but if more accurate measurements are needed, APD has a form that they sent out to all new customers to fill. Then the appropriate size could be selected. Joe, could you please delete the joke from jepuskar from the thread, it creates confusion. Thanks! __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM Last edited by decoweenie : 31st December 2006 at 06:30.
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31st December 2006, 06:40	#14 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,115	Re: FOR SALE: Evolution loaded with extras Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Or 115cm with street cloth and a belt. Section 4.1 in the APD manual gives a rough guide, but if more accurate measurements are needed, APD has a form that they sent out to all new customers to fill. Then the appropriate size could be selected. Joe, could you please delete the joke from jepuskar from the thread, it creates confusion. Thanks! Your right about the 115cm from AP, I don't agree with the suggestion just using trousers and shirt.. I found for cold water divers this tends to suggest more people to use the medium lungs and with heavy undergarments its too small.. When I originally measured myself, it would have suggested I use a medium.. Ok for a wetsuit but definately no good for a drysuit with heaqvy garments.. I rather err on the side of being larger than smaller when its close, so I use a little more restrictive limits for choosing the medium over the large.. (also if you need to take up a little of the length on the large you can always move thelungs further down the backplate), to use smaller lungs would require seperating the cl and using longer hoses from cannister to t pieces to move the lungs down the body a bit __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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3rd January 2007, 12:48	#15 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: FOR SALE: Evolution loaded with extras Just found in dive room over X-mas, and will include in package if needed... Medium harness (used condition) 3 x Evolution sensors Should add US$500 value to the package... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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4th January 2007, 11:53	#16 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: FOR SALE: Evolution loaded with extras Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Just found in dive room over X-mas, and will include in package if needed... Medium harness (used condition) 3 x Evolution sensors Should add US$500 value to the package... Seeing that commercial handset covers are being offered, I will also include my 1-year-old self-made handset cover as well with the unit. It protects the handset while diving, yet removable in seconds. And allows the use of bungies as adjustable straps. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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9th January 2007, 10:08	#17 (permalink)
Tony A New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Australia/Brisbane Posts: 6	Re: FOR SALE: Evolution loaded with extras Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Seeing that commercial handset covers are being offered, I will also include my 1-year-old self-made handset cover as well with the unit. It protects the handset while diving, yet removable in seconds. And allows the use of bungies as adjustable straps. Can you send me any pic's of the gear you have for sale please! __________________
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18th January 2007, 06:52	#19 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: FOR SALE: Evolution loaded with extras Bump! The 3 new cells are now installed in the lid since the previous ones were 14-month-old. Also interested in trading for a Meg in same condition... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM Last edited by decoweenie : 18th January 2007 at 06:56.
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11th February 2007, 21:16	#20 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: FOR SALE: Evolution loaded with extras FOR SALE Evolution Vision Nitrox / Trimix deco enabled Temp-Stick ADV installed with shut-off valve Black/Grey Medium CL Small harness Original shipping box Original PC download software/hardware Original supplied accessories (i.e. IP checker, etc) Custom strap/cover for handset. Only the scrubber, regs and lid were used (with BMCL and Weenie-Frame). The rest of unit (CL, tanks, wing, harness, etc) are used, in brand-new never-seen-water condition. OPTION [1] - Unit Only ================================================== === Total retail cost $10,000 for everything listed above. Sell for US$8,000 OPTION [2] - Everything Above with: V4TEC BOV - brand new, never used, installed. Original DSV not included. Travel-Frame - brand new, never used, both plain and perforated lids included. Long Vision-Inspiration scrubber, sorb holder, and Temp-Stick ================================================== ==== Total retail cost $13,000 for everything listed above. Sell for US$10,500 Option [2] allows you to dive the unit as an Evolution (with original case and 2L tanks) or Vision-Inspiration (with Travel-Frame, optional 3L tanks). Or any combination thereof (short scrubber with Travel-Frame and 3L or 2L tanks, etc). The fine print: All items in UAE. Prices not including shipping. Ship by trackable courier only, at cost (corporate rate). Payment via bank transfer, no PayPal. Could be picked up in person, if desired. ============ UPDATE... ============ I will be in Texas from end of March for 2 weeks, and could bring the unit over to Houston. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM Last edited by decoweenie : 12th February 2007 at 10:12.
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