Another Ebay Scam

Jamie B · 10th March 2006, 15:58

This listing (#7224987402) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item number.

Philip Greenwood · 15th March 2006, 00:47

Phil 17 is the e-bay message where the id of the sender is held back by the sender. I sent those e-mails to the people who put those bids on the auction before i saw this thread. My actual e-bay handle is *phil** and 17 is my positive feedback since Sept/03.

I sent those e-mails because when e-bay ends a auction scam they just withdraw the listing. Anyone who has ever been defrauded by the e-bay scammer is entitled to put in a claim with either e-bay or pay-pal. To recieve compensation.

Of course e-bay has never notified prior auction "winners" that they have been scammed and e-bay has now become aware of such facts. e-bay just tries to cover it up.They withdraw the auction, cancel the sellers i.d. and no communication to others who have been scammed can be found from previous feedback.

Several times in fact i have notified past auction winners of thier rights to file claims with e-bay for compensation but e-bay typically removes the scammers id. so no such notification is usually possible.

Philip Greenwood
Member of this forum.
Canada
E-bay *phil**

***sadave*** · 15th March 2006, 05:07

Nice work Phil...

Does this mean we can start our own "scam"???

whenever we see these scammers, we can all bid, and claim compensation from ebay??? :-p

Do this a few times, and I might finally have the $$$ to buy the meg I so desperately "need"!!!!

Philip Greenwood · 15th March 2006, 14:22

Sorry to dissapoint you Sadave. E-bay covers all it's bases to protect it's profits. With a $25 deductable and a $200 maximum claim, you'd need a accomplice ready to do time for $175 net.

E-bay has free listing days for only .99 cents. What a great concept,run a scam for only .99 cents.

I understand what the members of this forum were trying to do by bidding on this criminals auction. But i think it just served to give him a lesson. Next time he'll be less obvious. If a person discovers a scam, you should try to ascertain if it's in fact legit, or a scam. Find out where the scammer is located and then CONTACT THE LOCAL POLICE.

Next time this scammer will be a little less obvious.Although this guy was really dumb. Most criminals are, they can't find a real job.

On another aviation form, a member was defrauded out of almost $100,000 in a aircraft scam. Now we are talking real money. A year later he is still out the money and the criminal is still free. The scammer never owned the aircraft in question.

Anyone buying anything, should conduct due dilligence as to what they are in fact buying and who they are dealing with. Talk to the seller on their home phone, get their business phone number. Do a internet search, does the mailing address match the sellers? Once the money is sent, it's difficult or impossible to get it back.

If it sounds too good to be true you have to be extra careful. Step back and think about it, especally if the seller at some point has the item for sale AND YOUR MONEY.

Phil
Canada

S. Marc · 16th March 2006, 00:41

Same one I saw in November / December 2005.

http://cgi.ebay.com/CCR1000-MK15-REB...QQcmdZViewItem

ERIK_A · 18th March 2006, 16:14

I think I have seen this same ad before...anyone else?

http://cgi.ebay.com/DRAGER-LAR-V-REBREATHER-FORCE-RECON-SEALS-USSOCOM-UDT_W0QQitemZ6614668209QQcategoryZ36071QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem

marcinkr · 19th March 2006, 07:38

What about that one:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
Any ideas about that offer ?

Marcin

JonnyB · 19th March 2006, 09:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by marcinkr)

What about that one:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
Any ideas about that offer ?

Marcin

Well i dont know, it looks suspisious, but the seller says that you can pick the unit up and pay on collect. So that is a good thing

/Jonny

zepp · 19th March 2006, 15:19

Quote: (Originally Posted by JonnyB)

Well i dont know, it looks suspisious, but the seller says that you can pick the unit up and pay on collect. So that is a good thing

/Jonny

And his mobile number is on there. I know its not much, but at least you could phone him and ask the serial number etc. This can be checked up with AP. Ask him if you can go and look at it, tell him you have a family member that lives nearby. If its a scam, he will soon make his excuses. I personally think this could be a genuine auction.

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Jamie B Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Join Date: May 2005 Location: UK Posts: 172	Re: Another Ebay Scam This listing (#7224987402) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item number. __________________ From birth, man carries the weight of gravity on his shoulders. He is bolted to earth. But man has only to sink beneath the surface and he is free. Jacques Yves Cousteau
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15th March 2006, 00:47	#32 (permalink)
Philip Greenwood New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 41	Re: Another Ebay Scam Phil 17 is the e-bay message where the id of the sender is held back by the sender. I sent those e-mails to the people who put those bids on the auction before i saw this thread. My actual e-bay handle is phil* and 17 is my positive feedback since Sept/03. I sent those e-mails because when e-bay ends a auction scam they just withdraw the listing. Anyone who has ever been defrauded by the e-bay scammer is entitled to put in a claim with either e-bay or pay-pal. To recieve compensation. Of course e-bay has never notified prior auction "winners" that they have been scammed and e-bay has now become aware of such facts. e-bay just tries to cover it up.They withdraw the auction, cancel the sellers i.d. and no communication to others who have been scammed can be found from previous feedback. Several times in fact i have notified past auction winners of thier rights to file claims with e-bay for compensation but e-bay typically removes the scammers id. so no such notification is usually possible. Philip Greenwood Member of this forum. Canada E-bay phil*
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15th March 2006, 05:07	#33 (permalink)
*sadave* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Classic Kiss Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Posts: 1,131	Re: Another Ebay Scam Nice work Phil... Does this mean we can start our own "scam"??? whenever we see these scammers, we can all bid, and claim compensation from ebay??? :-p Do this a few times, and I might finally have the $$$ to buy the meg I so desperately "need"!!!! __________________ Wave!
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15th March 2006, 14:22	#34 (permalink)
Philip Greenwood New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 41	Re: Another Ebay Scam Sorry to dissapoint you Sadave. E-bay covers all it's bases to protect it's profits. With a $25 deductable and a $200 maximum claim, you'd need a accomplice ready to do time for $175 net. E-bay has free listing days for only .99 cents. What a great concept,run a scam for only .99 cents. I understand what the members of this forum were trying to do by bidding on this criminals auction. But i think it just served to give him a lesson. Next time he'll be less obvious. If a person discovers a scam, you should try to ascertain if it's in fact legit, or a scam. Find out where the scammer is located and then CONTACT THE LOCAL POLICE. Next time this scammer will be a little less obvious.Although this guy was really dumb. Most criminals are, they can't find a real job. On another aviation form, a member was defrauded out of almost $100,000 in a aircraft scam. Now we are talking real money. A year later he is still out the money and the criminal is still free. The scammer never owned the aircraft in question. Anyone buying anything, should conduct due dilligence as to what they are in fact buying and who they are dealing with. Talk to the seller on their home phone, get their business phone number. Do a internet search, does the mailing address match the sellers? Once the money is sent, it's difficult or impossible to get it back. If it sounds too good to be true you have to be extra careful. Step back and think about it, especally if the seller at some point has the item for sale AND YOUR MONEY. Phil Canada
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16th March 2006, 00:41	#35 (permalink)
S. Marc RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 203	Re: Another Ebay Scam Same one I saw in November / December 2005. http://cgi.ebay.com/CCR1000-MK15-REB...QQcmdZViewItem
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ERIK_A New Member Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: on O2 at 20 feet Posts: 60	Re: Another Ebay Scam I think I have seen this same ad before...anyone else? http://cgi.ebay.com/DRAGER-LAR-V-REBREATHER-FORCE-RECON-SEALS-USSOCOM-UDT_W0QQitemZ6614668209QQcategoryZ36071QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem __________________
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19th March 2006, 07:38	#37 (permalink)
marcinkr New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR RB80 / Clone Dolphin Ray Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Dolphin Ray Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Poland Posts: 45	Re: Another Ebay Scam What about that one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 Any ideas about that offer ? Marcin
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19th March 2006, 09:02	#38 (permalink)
JonnyB Johnny The Hatch Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Titan Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other CCR Other SCR Home Build Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweden (Stockholm)/Cyprus(Ayia Napa) Posts: 992	Re: Another Ebay Scam Quote: (Originally Posted by marcinkr) What about that one: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 Any ideas about that offer ? Marcin Well i dont know, it looks suspisious, but the seller says that you can pick the unit up and pay on collect. So that is a good thing /Jonny __________________ A quote from Crazyduck - In remembering our own Rob Davies. "Outbound flight 777 heavy you are cleared for flight Due west into that warm red Texas sunset You have angels on your wings and divers memories on your six." Rest In Peace http://www.divetekcyprus.com http://www.diveccr.com
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zepp "Dyson with Death" daddy Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: midlands Posts: 284	Re: Another Ebay Scam Quote: (Originally Posted by JonnyB) Well i dont know, it looks suspisious, but the seller says that you can pick the unit up and pay on collect. So that is a good thing /Jonny And his mobile number is on there. I know its not much, but at least you could phone him and ask the serial number etc. This can be checked up with AP. Ask him if you can go and look at it, tell him you have a family member that lives nearby. If its a scam, he will soon make his excuses. I personally think this could be a genuine auction. __________________ I'm not a bad person.....HONEST my homebuild photos http://www.rebreatherworld.com/photo...ery.php/cat/48 CLASSIC KISS #052/shearwater The Dyson is back
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