Record Dive during Dynamic Dive Exhibition Lago Maggiore

vlada · 12th May 2008, 13:30

Congrats and nice to know Boris can handle dives that deep!

Pim, if you have some time, it would be very interesting to hear about the deco planning (which program, did you make any adjustments on account of water temps); thermal protection (what temp water and what was used as drysutis/ underwear) and all other details you can share.

Thanks,

Dutchy · 12th May 2008, 19:47

Well done everyone. It proves there's a lot one can do with the right tools if one is determined. I can't wait to read the full report, the PTD bulletin made me curious

One thing I'm especially interested in is to know wether the Boris was in an off-the-shelf state for all of you or wether you made changes?
Anything particular you did to stay warm other than the bell @ 12 ?
Anyway

well done

matt_reed · 13th May 2008, 00:43

Congrats to the whole team, there does seem to have been an incredible amount of logistics.

Pim, when can we expect to see a full report post dive as I understand there were some issues with inner ear counter diffusion and leaky suits. How this stuff effected the divers and their decompression is some of the really useful info we can take away from the dives - so I for one would like to hear all about it.

Thanks and well done.

**UWSojourner** · 13th May 2008, 02:12

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

I'm a diver, I don't like anything that reduces my hobby to trivial numbers- (or worst still- a sport) As such depth records IMO, suck. Might as well line up these "heros" and measure their wedding tackle for all I care about how deep the went.

Hi Ben,

Your dislike for record seeking I'm sure is well founded. History is replete with the stories of those who've perished attempting to reach the south pole, or summit a mountain, or land on the moon.

My mom thought I was nuts to even scuba dive. The risk I was taking, "For what! You can see all that in a book! What's the point?" was just too much for her to fathom. I didn't have the heart to explain RBs to her

. She was an incredibly tenacious woman, raising four kids alone, and then dying of lung cancer from years of smoking (it turns out not everthing mundane is safe either).

What's the point? We all have risk preferences, and we all have different things that drive us toward a feeling of being alive, a sense of accomplishment, a new adventure, or a nagging wonder of whether we can actually do it. I'm sure my Mom's Everest was raising four kids alone, albeit with the comfort of cigarettes.

We can all choose an easier, safer path. On average, everyone would probably live a little bit longer. But that doesn't mean the pure enjoyment of life increases. Let others pick there own risk preferences. You don't need to "approve" or "agree" for them to feel they've accomplished something. It's THEIR accomplishment, not ours, and we should celebrate that.

Everyone is someone elses nut. What you do (DIVE REBREATHERS!?) is crazy to some. But the expectation of a longer life doesn't mean the certainty of a life more fulfilled. Let these guys have their accomplishment. Rebreather divers of all people should toast it, even if we understand the risk they took to accomplish it.

Cheers.

**kevin stone** · 13th May 2008, 02:48

Pim
I believe this is a significant accomplishment.
The Wright brothers only flew for 120' on their first flight, all new knowledge is gained incrementally.
You and you team has benefited us all.
Thanks for your efforts
Kevin

DrJM · 13th May 2008, 06:17

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaoooooooooooooooooooooo

superb achievement guys, sincere congratulations

I'm really impress about such team effort and about diving in such cold water

So Mario and Pim ready to explore deeper E Bianco or Gorgazzo or anything deeper ? I'm glad you're all back ok !!!

Looking forward for a drink with you guys

Jerome

Outlaw · 13th May 2008, 06:27

very recently a member of Rebreather World has given me some good advice for sharing info and "leave the tossers behind". That i really appreciated.

instead of throwing mud, we should all be happy that some fellow Rebreather divers have got together, they had the greatest support that i've even seen, unbelievable enthousiasm and desire to suceed and they did something incredible.

That alone is worth taking our hats off to them.

Pim congratulations my friend to you and all the guys taking part. This was a lesson of how to do things. very impressive feat, very impressive video and setup. everybody knew what to do, and when.

great achievement for the leader(s) of this expedition for keeping such a big even on schedule.

so, well done to everybody.

i am sure there were many of us who wished we were just there, given the chance to act as support divers, help around etc....

GREAT - JUST GREAT!!!

Saga · 13th May 2008, 06:45

Hi Pim,

Nice to hear from you again.
Congratulations to you and your team for this incredible dive.

Hope to see you soon again.

Cheers,

Nad · 13th May 2008, 08:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

Very, very, well done, nice to know that the Ouroboros can handle this.

Quote.

Congratulations to the team.

Ehm, I know you discovered that the Lake Maggiore water's are around 2 cm cold, isn't? I was there (unfortunatly and not depending on me, without CCR) and I know you had some trouble with your dry suit...
And what's about Scuotto? Didn't he have a vestibular during the ascent?

Regards
Nad

gibbogeo · 13th May 2008, 08:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by Pim's Tekdiving PTD)

On May 10th 2008 Mario Marconi, Alessandro Scuotto and Pim van der Horst have set some new records for technical diving (according to the organization of the Dynamic Dive Exhibition) in Lago Maggiore, Italy.

Congratulation for surviving a similar task.

Can you make a detailed report of the dive and how did you managed the problems of such an aggressive dive?

Thank you.

12th May 2008, 13:30	#21 (permalink)
vlada Diver with a camera Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 56	Re: Recod Dive during Dynamic Dive Exhibition Lago Maggiore Congrats and nice to know Boris can handle dives that deep! Pim, if you have some time, it would be very interesting to hear about the deco planning (which program, did you make any adjustments on account of water temps); thermal protection (what temp water and what was used as drysutis/ underwear) and all other details you can share. Thanks, __________________ Vlada www.wrecksandreefs.com
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12th May 2008, 19:47	#22 (permalink)
Dutchy SK#007 Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nieuwegein (The Netherlands) Posts: 693	Re: Recod Dive during Dynamic Dive Exhibition Lago Maggiore Well done everyone. It proves there's a lot one can do with the right tools if one is determined. I can't wait to read the full report, the PTD bulletin made me curious One thing I'm especially interested in is to know wether the Boris was in an off-the-shelf state for all of you or wether you made changes? Anything particular you did to stay warm other than the bell @ 12 ? Anyway well done __________________ = This post is environmentally friendly. It is composed of 100% recycled electrons only. = SK #007
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13th May 2008, 00:43	#23 (permalink)
matt_reed New Member Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Pelagian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Philippines Posts: 12	Re: Recod Dive during Dynamic Dive Exhibition Lago Maggiore Congrats to the whole team, there does seem to have been an incredible amount of logistics. Pim, when can we expect to see a full report post dive as I understand there were some issues with inner ear counter diffusion and leaky suits. How this stuff effected the divers and their decompression is some of the really useful info we can take away from the dives - so I for one would like to hear all about it. Thanks and well done.
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13th May 2008, 02:12	#24 (permalink)
UWSojourner Pacific Northwest Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 556	Re: Record Dive during Dynamic Dive Exhibition Lago Maggiore Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) I'm a diver, I don't like anything that reduces my hobby to trivial numbers- (or worst still- a sport) As such depth records IMO, suck. Might as well line up these "heros" and measure their wedding tackle for all I care about how deep the went. Hi Ben, Your dislike for record seeking I'm sure is well founded. History is replete with the stories of those who've perished attempting to reach the south pole, or summit a mountain, or land on the moon. My mom thought I was nuts to even scuba dive. The risk I was taking, "For what! You can see all that in a book! What's the point?" was just too much for her to fathom. I didn't have the heart to explain RBs to her . She was an incredibly tenacious woman, raising four kids alone, and then dying of lung cancer from years of smoking (it turns out not everthing mundane is safe either). What's the point? We all have risk preferences, and we all have different things that drive us toward a feeling of being alive, a sense of accomplishment, a new adventure, or a nagging wonder of whether we can actually do it. I'm sure my Mom's Everest was raising four kids alone, albeit with the comfort of cigarettes. We can all choose an easier, safer path. On average, everyone would probably live a little bit longer. But that doesn't mean the pure enjoyment of life increases. Let others pick there own risk preferences. You don't need to "approve" or "agree" for them to feel they've accomplished something. It's THEIR accomplishment, not ours, and we should celebrate that. Everyone is someone elses nut. What you do (DIVE REBREATHERS!?) is crazy to some. But the expectation of a longer life doesn't mean the certainty of a life more fulfilled. Let these guys have their accomplishment. Rebreather divers of all people should toast it, even if we understand the risk they took to accomplish it. Cheers.
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13th May 2008, 02:48	#25 (permalink)
kevin stone Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: us ct. Posts: 155	Re: Recod Dive during Dynamic Dive Exhibition Lago Maggiore Pim I believe this is a significant accomplishment. The Wright brothers only flew for 120' on their first flight, all new knowledge is gained incrementally. You and you team has benefited us all. Thanks for your efforts Kevin
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13th May 2008, 06:17	#26 (permalink)
DrJM Deep Cave Explorer Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Join Date: May 2005 Location: France Posts: 335	Re: Recod Dive during Dynamic Dive Exhibition Lago Maggiore Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaoooooooooooooooooooooo superb achievement guys, sincere congratulations I'm really impress about such team effort and about diving in such cold water So Mario and Pim ready to explore deeper E Bianco or Gorgazzo or anything deeper ? I'm glad you're all back ok !!! Looking forward for a drink with you guys Jerome __________________ www.snoopyloop.com Deep Cave Exploration
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13th May 2008, 06:27	#27 (permalink)
Outlaw In search of Law breaking Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cyprus, Nicosia Posts: 626	Re: Recod Dive during Dynamic Dive Exhibition Lago Maggiore very recently a member of Rebreather World has given me some good advice for sharing info and "leave the tossers behind". That i really appreciated. instead of throwing mud, we should all be happy that some fellow Rebreather divers have got together, they had the greatest support that i've even seen, unbelievable enthousiasm and desire to suceed and they did something incredible. That alone is worth taking our hats off to them. Pim congratulations my friend to you and all the guys taking part. This was a lesson of how to do things. very impressive feat, very impressive video and setup. everybody knew what to do, and when. great achievement for the leader(s) of this expedition for keeping such a big even on schedule. so, well done to everybody. i am sure there were many of us who wished we were just there, given the chance to act as support divers, help around etc.... GREAT - JUST GREAT!!! __________________ CMAS - IANTD - TDI Kamikazi Instrustor Trainer DIRRebreather Team Member ---------------------------- "Once an Outlaw, always an Outlaw"
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13th May 2008, 06:45	#28 (permalink)
Saga SAGA Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Dolphin Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Dolphin Other SCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Saint Raphael . France Posts: 27	Re: Recod Dive during Dynamic Dive Exhibition Lago Maggiore Hi Pim, Nice to hear from you again. Congratulations to you and your team for this incredible dive. Hope to see you soon again. Cheers, __________________ Eveline Verdier CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer Inspiration/Evolution http://www.tek-aventure.com www.sagascuba.com
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13th May 2008, 08:29	#29 (permalink)
Nad Rebel to the Bone Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Europe Posts: 924	Re: Recod Dive during Dynamic Dive Exhibition Lago Maggiore Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) Very, very, well done, nice to know that the Ouroboros can handle this. Quote. Congratulations to the team. Ehm, I know you discovered that the Lake Maggiore water's are around 2 cm cold, isn't? I was there (unfortunatly and not depending on me, without CCR) and I know you had some trouble with your dry suit... And what's about Scuotto? Didn't he have a vestibular during the ascent? Regards Nad __________________ The Impossible is often the Untried
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13th May 2008, 08:32	#30 (permalink)
gibbogeo kiss addict Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: italy Posts: 308	Re: Recod Dive during Dynamic Dive Exhibition Lago Maggiore Quote: (Originally Posted by Pim's Tekdiving PTD) On May 10th 2008 Mario Marconi, Alessandro Scuotto and Pim van der Horst have set some new records for technical diving (according to the organization of the Dynamic Dive Exhibition) in Lago Maggiore, Italy. Congratulation for surviving a similar task. Can you make a detailed report of the dive and how did you managed the problems of such an aggressive dive? Thank you.
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