Hitler's lost fleet

Abbo · 5th February 2008, 08:29

Adolf Hitler's 'lost fleet' found in Black Sea - Telegraph

Interesting story in the Daily Telegraph this morning. Three subs near Istanbul. Two at snokel depth. Anyone know anything about these wrecks?

Peter M · 5th February 2008, 09:25

Some reports about them in here, intresting find though!

uboat.net - The U-boat War 1939-1945

Ritchard · 5th February 2008, 12:38

Cool story.

dteubner · 5th February 2008, 12:46

From U Boat operations of the Second World War - Kenneth Wynn

Quote:

.... was partially dismantled at Kiel and the stripped-down hull, weighing 140 tons, was taken on a raft made of five pontoons to Brunsbuttel, via the Kiel canal. From there the raft was taken up the Elbe as far as Dresden, where the hull was unshipped and placed on two 70 ton road transporters.

It then made a slow jurney down the autobahn as far as Ingolstadt, where it was again loaded on a raft to be towed doen the Danube to Linz.

After arrival at Linz, the boat was re-assembled and then towed between two barges down the Danube to Romania. At Galati the boat was recommissioned.

Apparenty the Germans offered to sell the boats to the Turkish government, who refused to buy them

**Dave Sutton** · 5th February 2008, 13:32

Nice. As Type IIB's, known as "Canoes", they were coastal boats, and will be AFAIK the one ones of their type to be located in divable depths. Most of these never left the Baltic, where they were used as training boats at the school, and so were not exposed to possible war loss. Interestingly enough, they were single compartment boats, without separate watertight compartments fore and aft, and from what I have read were very well liked by their crews for their ease of handling and rapidity of submergence.

From a diving standpoint this is good news. From a U-Boat archeologists standpoint it is superb news. The Sharkhunters will be happy!

Dave Sutton

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tibby · 5th February 2008, 14:02

This is great news! The salinity in the Black Sea is much lower than the ocean's which makes for good wreck preservation, on the other hand I'm sure they are covered in zebra mussels just like any other wreck in that sea. I dive wrecks off the Romanian coast every year with my brother and it's pretty interesting diving. I even got a piece of china from a chinese freighter

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Anyone know the GPS locations of these subs? Have they been published?
Tibby

peterbj7 · 5th February 2008, 18:09

They were scuttled. In the case of a sub the boat can be made to sink just be flooding all the air tanks, so it's possible that the shallower ones might be completely intact (or so I've read). Maybe even the one at 1000'.

Abbo · 5th February 2008, 23:05

It appears that the finder is presenting on the subject at the International Shipwreck Conference in Plymouth this coming weekend - Saturday 9 Feb. If you're in the UK it seems a good way to spend a few hours and £15.
International Shipwreck Conference

If anyone's going, please share what you learn.

mattmexico · 6th February 2008, 03:13

yo all

Found an article about this in German that has been published by the SPIEGEL online magazine
U-Boot auf der Autobahn - einestages

and some photos
U-Boot auf der Autobahn - einestages on the German Autobahn with heavy duty transports with 32 wide full rubber tires and up to 4 pulling engines the trasnports made the 300 km / 181 miles between the Elbe river by Dresden and the Danube ( Donau ) river by Ingolstadt. This photo is from 1942 in Dresden Neustadt on the Autobahn where a special ramp was constructed to allow the sub transports onto the Autobahn

Entladen bei Ingolstadt - einestages in Bavaria ( Ingolstadt ) the subs where taken of the road and put on barges onto the Danube ( Donau ) river

U-Boot am Gartenzaun - einestages the heavy transports had a speed of 8 km - 6 miles an hour and wher very tedious. Many times it came to bottleneck situations on the roads. This picture shows a sub under tarps with a torpedo tube showing. The author asked himself if the bypassers would have recognized what was transported on the road.

greetings
Matt

wreckseeker · 6th February 2008, 07:25

cool pics matt! but could you translate ? I speak volkswagen but no german dude! arrrrrghhh.....

5th February 2008, 08:29	#1 (permalink)
Abbo Going down on Meg Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tokyo Posts: 365	Hitler's lost fleet Adolf Hitler's 'lost fleet' found in Black Sea - Telegraph Interesting story in the Daily Telegraph this morning. Three subs near Istanbul. Two at snokel depth. Anyone know anything about these wrecks?
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5th February 2008, 09:25	#2 (permalink)
Peter M New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 45	Re: Hitler's lost fleet Some reports about them in here, intresting find though! uboat.net - The U-boat War 1939-1945
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5th February 2008, 12:38	#3 (permalink)
Ritchard New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto, CANADA Posts: 56	Re: Hitler's lost fleet Cool story.
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5th February 2008, 12:46	#4 (permalink)
dteubner Pedant Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 216	Re: Hitler's lost fleet From U Boat operations of the Second World War - Kenneth Wynn Quote: .... was partially dismantled at Kiel and the stripped-down hull, weighing 140 tons, was taken on a raft made of five pontoons to Brunsbuttel, via the Kiel canal. From there the raft was taken up the Elbe as far as Dresden, where the hull was unshipped and placed on two 70 ton road transporters. It then made a slow jurney down the autobahn as far as Ingolstadt, where it was again loaded on a raft to be towed doen the Danube to Linz. After arrival at Linz, the boat was re-assembled and then towed between two barges down the Danube to Romania. At Galati the boat was recommissioned. Apparenty the Germans offered to sell the boats to the Turkish government, who refused to buy them __________________ Dave T Hanlon's Razor - Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
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5th February 2008, 13:32	#5 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Living on Animal Farm Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,445	Re: Hitler's lost fleet Nice. As Type IIB's, known as "Canoes", they were coastal boats, and will be AFAIK the one ones of their type to be located in divable depths. Most of these never left the Baltic, where they were used as training boats at the school, and so were not exposed to possible war loss. Interestingly enough, they were single compartment boats, without separate watertight compartments fore and aft, and from what I have read were very well liked by their crews for their ease of handling and rapidity of submergence. From a diving standpoint this is good news. From a U-Boat archeologists standpoint it is superb news. The Sharkhunters will be happy! Dave Sutton . __________________ . "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" Professional Small Boy: Never Successfully Cubicled.
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5th February 2008, 14:02	#6 (permalink)
tibby untitled Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2007 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 325	Re: Hitler's lost fleet This is great news! The salinity in the Black Sea is much lower than the ocean's which makes for good wreck preservation, on the other hand I'm sure they are covered in zebra mussels just like any other wreck in that sea. I dive wrecks off the Romanian coast every year with my brother and it's pretty interesting diving. I even got a piece of china from a chinese freighter . Anyone know the GPS locations of these subs? Have they been published? Tibby __________________ Does the voice of reason change when you add helium to the mix?...hmm
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5th February 2008, 18:09	#7 (permalink)
peterbj7 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Belize Posts: 15	Re: Hitler's lost fleet They were scuttled. In the case of a sub the boat can be made to sink just be flooding all the air tanks, so it's possible that the shallower ones might be completely intact (or so I've read). Maybe even the one at 1000'.
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5th February 2008, 23:05	#8 (permalink)
Abbo Going down on Meg Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tokyo Posts: 365	Re: Hitler's lost fleet It appears that the finder is presenting on the subject at the International Shipwreck Conference in Plymouth this coming weekend - Saturday 9 Feb. If you're in the UK it seems a good way to spend a few hours and £15. International Shipwreck Conference If anyone's going, please share what you learn.
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6th February 2008, 03:13	#9 (permalink)
mattmexico Rebreather World Writer Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Optima RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss RB80 / Clone Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Mexico, Q.Roo, Playa del Carmen Posts: 696	Re: Hitler's lost fleet yo all Found an article about this in German that has been published by the SPIEGEL online magazine U-Boot auf der Autobahn - einestages and some photos U-Boot auf der Autobahn - einestages on the German Autobahn with heavy duty transports with 32 wide full rubber tires and up to 4 pulling engines the trasnports made the 300 km / 181 miles between the Elbe river by Dresden and the Danube ( Donau ) river by Ingolstadt. This photo is from 1942 in Dresden Neustadt on the Autobahn where a special ramp was constructed to allow the sub transports onto the Autobahn Entladen bei Ingolstadt - einestages in Bavaria ( Ingolstadt ) the subs where taken of the road and put on barges onto the Danube ( Donau ) river U-Boot am Gartenzaun - einestages the heavy transports had a speed of 8 km - 6 miles an hour and wher very tedious. Many times it came to bottleneck situations on the roads. This picture shows a sub under tarps with a torpedo tube showing. The author asked himself if the bypassers would have recognized what was transported on the road. greetings Matt __________________ N 20' 37.617' W 87' 04.693' www.andreaswmatthes.com Last edited by mattmexico : 6th February 2008 at 12:40.
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wreckseeker New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: nanaimo b.c Posts: 36	Re: Hitler's lost fleet cool pics matt! but could you translate ? I speak volkswagen but no german dude! arrrrrghhh.....
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