Bikini: no penetration?

Jason Blackwell · 18th July 2007, 03:00

Hi guys,

Has anyone heard any rumours about wreck penetration NO LONGER being allowed on the Saratoga?

I have just spoken to a diver who has just returned, and let me assure you that he and the rest of the group are not real happy.

I believe that this policy has only just been implemented. We have queries in with Bikini as I type this, and will report back when we get answers from them.

Cheers Jason

grandizer52 · 18th July 2007, 04:20

was out in majuro in december, and they were talking about it cause the flight deck was collapsing. almost not worth the hastle of getting out to there.

dantheman · 18th July 2007, 16:09

There was a huuuge (somewhat on-topic

) thread about this
over at TDS over the last several months.

One gist I got from it was that the dive ops team there wanted folks to stay a second week,
during which they would be "permitted" "limited" penetration.

(disclaimer: I've never been, and likely never will

)

--dan

Mixaddict · 19th July 2007, 05:58

We had a group of 11 divers from our shop in Bikini 3 weeks ago. They allowed VERY limited penetration on the Saratoga, but it was mostly closed to penetration due to excessive collapse going on. I don't think it was due to experience level because many in the group were experienced wreck and cave divers.

Scuttle · 11th August 2007, 12:09

I've just returned from a 2 week stay & can confirm limited penetration in the first week & far more in the second--- depending on a few factors.
Like,
1, the least experienced will hold the group back.
2, one on one when they are guiding but sometimes two will be lucky if they feel comfortable in the divers ability.
3, some areas are off limits due to the deterioration of the wreck.

Lancer4545 · 12th August 2007, 09:18

Quote: (Originally Posted by Scuttle)

I've just returned from a 2 week stay & can confirm limited penetration in the first week & far more in the second--- depending on a few factors.
Like,
1, the least experienced will hold the group back.
2, one on one when they are guiding but sometimes two will be lucky if they feel comfortable in the divers ability.
3, some areas are off limits due to the deterioration of the wreck.

Hey, Very cool. I have sent a PM to get a bit more info on this.......

eguil · 21st September 2007, 09:51

Hi,

I was there in Apr 2007 and did little or no penetration on the Saratoga. Just one of the dives a little penetration was done with just 3 divers. Reason given was she is unstable. We were also not allowed near the tower.
We were an experienced group and did not expect this. Also they really do not want rebreathers there and if you do decide to bring one you still must dive the dive guides profile. The guides are on twins with air and a deco station with 75%.

18th July 2007, 03:00	#1 (permalink)
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18th July 2007, 04:20	#2 (permalink)
grandizer52 Sport Kiss & Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Sport Kiss Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2006 Location: pearl city hawaii EARTH moving to Iscandar Posts: 254	Re: Bikini: no penetration? was out in majuro in december, and they were talking about it cause the flight deck was collapsing. almost not worth the hastle of getting out to there.
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18th July 2007, 16:09	#3 (permalink)
dantheman Emoticonoclast Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Join Date: May 2005 Location: NorthEast USA Posts: 397	Re: Bikini: no penetration? There was a huuuge (somewhat on-topic ) thread about this over at TDS over the last several months. One gist I got from it was that the dive ops team there wanted folks to stay a second week, during which they would be "permitted" "limited" penetration. (disclaimer: I've never been, and likely never will ) --dan
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19th July 2007, 05:58	#4 (permalink)
Mixaddict RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Draper, Utah USA Posts: 520	Re: Bikini: no penetration? We had a group of 11 divers from our shop in Bikini 3 weeks ago. They allowed VERY limited penetration on the Saratoga, but it was mostly closed to penetration due to excessive collapse going on. I don't think it was due to experience level because many in the group were experienced wreck and cave divers. __________________ Randy Thornton (MixAddict) Inspiration, Evolution, Hammerhead & Sentinel CCR Instructor
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11th August 2007, 12:09	#5 (permalink)
Scuttle 1 Grumpy ole skipper Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jan Juc, Vic, Australia Posts: 242	Re: Bikini: no penetration? I've just returned from a 2 week stay & can confirm limited penetration in the first week & far more in the second--- depending on a few factors. Like, 1, the least experienced will hold the group back. 2, one on one when they are guiding but sometimes two will be lucky if they feel comfortable in the divers ability. 3, some areas are off limits due to the deterioration of the wreck. __________________ sold CK182 now its CK243
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12th August 2007, 09:18	#6 (permalink)
Lancer4545 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cairns QLD Australia Posts: 744	Re: Bikini: no penetration? Quote: (Originally Posted by Scuttle) I've just returned from a 2 week stay & can confirm limited penetration in the first week & far more in the second--- depending on a few factors. Like, 1, the least experienced will hold the group back. 2, one on one when they are guiding but sometimes two will be lucky if they feel comfortable in the divers ability. 3, some areas are off limits due to the deterioration of the wreck. Hey, Very cool. I have sent a PM to get a bit more info on this....... __________________ You can run but you can't hide! ISC Appointed Megalodon Dealer for East Australia http://www.closedcircuitdivers.com.au info@closedcircuitdivers.com.au
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21st September 2007, 09:51	#7 (permalink)
eguil New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hawaii Posts: 2	Re: Bikini: no penetration? Hi, I was there in Apr 2007 and did little or no penetration on the Saratoga. Just one of the dives a little penetration was done with just 3 divers. Reason given was she is unstable. We were also not allowed near the tower. We were an experienced group and did not expect this. Also they really do not want rebreathers there and if you do decide to bring one you still must dive the dive guides profile. The guides are on twins with air and a deco station with 75%.
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