Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece

gtzavelas · 15th April 2007, 22:29

and some under water video footage of the wreck:
BBC News Player - 'Human error' in ferry sinking

Outlaw · 16th May 2007, 15:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by gtzavelas)

and some under water video footage of the wreck:
BBC News Player - 'Human error' in ferry sinking

hello Patrida,

have you got any news about the whole thing now? suddenly nothing is being said about it? when do you think they'll leave open it for diving, if they are planning to? i heard from Cyprus that the company is not interested in lifting the ship.

Is there something said over there? anyone with some good informative website onthe matter?

Thanks.

chaz · 4th June 2007, 08:43

there has been hardly any news since the first 2 weeks or so....... i want my insurance money!!! lol

Outlaw · 17th August 2007, 18:06

hey guys,

i've heard that by next year they allow diving on the wreck. though i don't really believe this to be true, i would be more than happy as i can't wait to dive on it.

has anyone else heard anything else? anyone somehow has any access to any pictures of it as it stands now? Any of the Greek Brothers heard something?

Thanks

Spyros

chaz · 24th September 2007, 07:48

likewise. any more info guys? now that my insurance is sorted im very interested in finding out as much as i can .

gtzavelas · 24th September 2007, 08:06

well...
not a great deal of news
according to the Greek news its still beeing dived in order to collect info/video futage about the cause of the accident
the depth is 85-140m
the oil is still inside and the operation to remove it is still pending....

Outlaw · 25th September 2007, 05:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by gtzavelas)

well...
not a great deal of news
according to the Greek news its still beeing dived in order to collect info/video futage about the cause of the accident
the depth is 85-140m
the oil is still inside and the operation to remove it is still pending....

Hey George,

i cant wait to join your group for the "project".

when do you think diving would be allowed on the wreck? i know that when Zenobia went down, diving was not allowed for nearly 10 years.

it would be a great dive i guess.

Take care,

Spyros

Outlaw · 11th October 2007, 20:10

Hey guys,

this is sad. Diving has not even started on the wreck and so far there is already a fatallity in terms of Diver life. i know that the 2 french people were never found but this is a bad start on what i thought it would be a dream technical wreck dive in the future.

sympathy to the family and friends.

CDNN :: Scuba Diver Dies Investigating Sea Diamond Cruise Ship Wreck

Spyros

Outlaw · 3rd November 2007, 14:59

hello guys,

a new update. it has been presented that oceanography maps were wrong and the course that the captain of the ship had was right. it is so sad and tragic that in the year 2000 there are wrong maps that ship captains rely on...

as it turns out there is the possibility that the company and the crew will be aqquited from liability and the blame will be thrown probably to the goverment or the authorities who have aprooved of those maps as being reliable...

its a shame, isn't it?

Spyros

aquaxel · 4th November 2007, 05:42

that just fits in into the whole whaked and sad story: a wrong sea chart.

IF ! there is really a so much wrong sea chart does not necessarily mean unguilty of navigational failure.

as a proper navigator u cannot relay on a sea chart only. there are more navigational aids like radar and depth sounders just to name the basics. the most important is common sense which includes the most important to always keep proper look out, safe distance, safe speed, readiness and possible other assistance like pilots or tug boats.

if there is no higher cause of failure like massive bad weather or even a complete black out that accident should not have happened.

further:

to send scuba divers on a deep dive to investigate damage at that depth is just as bad - pushing unneccessary risks. it mite even be illegal as in these circumstances an official investigation should not be conducted with a "sport / recreational" scuba dive system. the contractors for this job - which sadly ended in a tragic fatality - should be put in court.

i get the feeling of a typical no care / safe money attitude.

if responsibles would like to take care of damage control they should deploy a commercial dive operation for a survey and to fix the oil leak. it is expensive but could also be done by rov.

the whole thing is a sad farce.

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gtzavelas Rebreather World Writer Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Athens,Greece Posts: 264	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece and some under water video footage of the wreck: BBC News Player - 'Human error' in ferry sinking
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16th May 2007, 15:29	#52 (permalink)
Outlaw In search of Law breaking Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cyprus, Nicosia Posts: 634	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece Quote: (Originally Posted by gtzavelas) and some under water video footage of the wreck: BBC News Player - 'Human error' in ferry sinking hello Patrida, have you got any news about the whole thing now? suddenly nothing is being said about it? when do you think they'll leave open it for diving, if they are planning to? i heard from Cyprus that the company is not interested in lifting the ship. Is there something said over there? anyone with some good informative website onthe matter? Thanks. __________________ CMAS - IANTD - TDI Kamikazi Instrustor Trainer DIRRebreather Team Member ---------------------------- "Once an Outlaw, always an Outlaw"
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4th June 2007, 08:43	#53 (permalink)
chaz New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: High Wycombe Posts: 5	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece there has been hardly any news since the first 2 weeks or so....... i want my insurance money!!! lol
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17th August 2007, 18:06	#54 (permalink)
Outlaw In search of Law breaking Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cyprus, Nicosia Posts: 634	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece hey guys, i've heard that by next year they allow diving on the wreck. though i don't really believe this to be true, i would be more than happy as i can't wait to dive on it. has anyone else heard anything else? anyone somehow has any access to any pictures of it as it stands now? Any of the Greek Brothers heard something? Thanks Spyros __________________ CMAS - IANTD - TDI Kamikazi Instrustor Trainer DIRRebreather Team Member ---------------------------- "Once an Outlaw, always an Outlaw"
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24th September 2007, 07:48	#55 (permalink)
chaz New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: High Wycombe Posts: 5	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece likewise. any more info guys? now that my insurance is sorted im very interested in finding out as much as i can .
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24th September 2007, 08:06	#56 (permalink)
gtzavelas Rebreather World Writer Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Athens,Greece Posts: 264	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece well... not a great deal of news according to the Greek news its still beeing dived in order to collect info/video futage about the cause of the accident the depth is 85-140m the oil is still inside and the operation to remove it is still pending....
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25th September 2007, 05:42	#57 (permalink)
Outlaw In search of Law breaking Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cyprus, Nicosia Posts: 634	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece Quote: (Originally Posted by gtzavelas) well... not a great deal of news according to the Greek news its still beeing dived in order to collect info/video futage about the cause of the accident the depth is 85-140m the oil is still inside and the operation to remove it is still pending.... Hey George, i cant wait to join your group for the "project". when do you think diving would be allowed on the wreck? i know that when Zenobia went down, diving was not allowed for nearly 10 years. it would be a great dive i guess. Take care, Spyros __________________ CMAS - IANTD - TDI Kamikazi Instrustor Trainer DIRRebreather Team Member ---------------------------- "Once an Outlaw, always an Outlaw"
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11th October 2007, 20:10	#58 (permalink)
Outlaw In search of Law breaking Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cyprus, Nicosia Posts: 634	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece Hey guys, this is sad. Diving has not even started on the wreck and so far there is already a fatallity in terms of Diver life. i know that the 2 french people were never found but this is a bad start on what i thought it would be a dream technical wreck dive in the future. sympathy to the family and friends. CDNN :: Scuba Diver Dies Investigating Sea Diamond Cruise Ship Wreck Spyros __________________ CMAS - IANTD - TDI Kamikazi Instrustor Trainer DIRRebreather Team Member ---------------------------- "Once an Outlaw, always an Outlaw"
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3rd November 2007, 14:59	#59 (permalink)
Outlaw In search of Law breaking Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cyprus, Nicosia Posts: 634	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece hello guys, a new update. it has been presented that oceanography maps were wrong and the course that the captain of the ship had was right. it is so sad and tragic that in the year 2000 there are wrong maps that ship captains rely on... as it turns out there is the possibility that the company and the crew will be aqquited from liability and the blame will be thrown probably to the goverment or the authorities who have aprooved of those maps as being reliable... its a shame, isn't it? Spyros __________________ CMAS - IANTD - TDI Kamikazi Instrustor Trainer DIRRebreather Team Member ---------------------------- "Once an Outlaw, always an Outlaw"
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4th November 2007, 05:42	#60 (permalink)
aquaxel aquanaut Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: cyprus Posts: 530	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece that just fits in into the whole whaked and sad story: a wrong sea chart. IF ! there is really a so much wrong sea chart does not necessarily mean unguilty of navigational failure. as a proper navigator u cannot relay on a sea chart only. there are more navigational aids like radar and depth sounders just to name the basics. the most important is common sense which includes the most important to always keep proper look out, safe distance, safe speed, readiness and possible other assistance like pilots or tug boats. if there is no higher cause of failure like massive bad weather or even a complete black out that accident should not have happened. further: to send scuba divers on a deep dive to investigate damage at that depth is just as bad - pushing unneccessary risks. it mite even be illegal as in these circumstances an official investigation should not be conducted with a "sport / recreational" scuba dive system. the contractors for this job - which sadly ended in a tragic fatality - should be put in court. i get the feeling of a typical no care / safe money attitude. if responsibles would like to take care of damage control they should deploy a commercial dive operation for a survey and to fix the oil leak. it is expensive but could also be done by rov. the whole thing is a sad farce. __________________ rgds aquaxel www.aquatec-innerspace.com
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