Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece

MrClive · 7th April 2007, 22:16

what are you talking about? im asking a simple question, thats all

Outlaw · 7th April 2007, 22:24

Quote: (Originally Posted by lady)

hi all, sorry 2 invade but is there any news on the father and daughter

hi mate,

the latest is that greek divers from the army, (they use the term" specialized army divers" ) are diving on the wreck and still searching.

the mother said that she went on the top deck to find her son, and she told the father to meet her with their daughter on the top deck soon.

They are still missing, not found yet.

hope they are found.

Spyros

Gobfish1 · 7th April 2007, 22:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by lady)

what are you talking about? im asking a simple question, thats all

No news on the father and daughter, that I know of,

sorry

just a bit

if you know what i mean

MrClive · 7th April 2007, 22:27

cheers mate, i hope so too

milka · 8th April 2007, 20:41

Sad news for the family.

What about the ethics ? i was having a discussion with my wife about this. One one part we have : it's like robbery... or pillage of the stuff as the people have not yet got anything from insurance... and with the grief and on the other hand we have... that could be a cool dive and there must be buckets of cash in the tills of the ship casino... + the rest in the cabins.

what do you guys think ?

inany case... here are some deck plans :
Sea Diamond Deck Plans

Outlaw · 8th April 2007, 21:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by milka)

Sad news for the family.

What about the ethics ? i was having a discussion with my wife about this. One one part we have : it's like robbery... or pillage of the stuff as the people have not yet got anything from insurance... and with the grief and on the other hand we have... that could be a cool dive and there must be buckets of cash in the tills of the ship casino... + the rest in the cabins.

what do you guys think ?

inany case... here are some deck plans :
Sea Diamond Deck Plans

Milka,

thanks for pointing this out. i do understand your concerns. Just to put it this way, suppose you were onthat ship, and had your precious laptop with more than 5000 pictures and other work stuff, etc. and you lost it. just like that. i mean, at the beggining you just want to get out alive, but after that, you kind of feel that " ok, am alive, but what about my stuff"...

The thing with insurance will be more complicated from what i think. off course to get paid, you have to have your stuff insured, cause who was thinking that this supership could go down?

then again, the insurance companies will propably find excuses not to pay cause the ship went down so late, which means that the passengers had a plenty of time to pick their valuables at least...and they didn't.

Then again, the passengers will be blaming the crew which probably told them to evacuate at once and they caused panic...and finally the company will divert the blame somewhere else...

it's a pity, but from my work, i gather that it would be a long circus, which will aim to throw the blame elsewhere, resulting in a settlement, once a long time has gone without pay, and achieving a settlement by consent onthe amount. Now, the company will play a role into that, because is under a lot of fire at the moment.

Sorry to hassle you, but like you, i am having chats with my wife about this...i guess most of the people are, cause it could happen to anyone of us.

Cheers...

PS. if they decide to leave it there, then those maps could come in handy....in the summer...and an excuse to the wife to have a long diving week!

take care.

Spyros.

chaz · 8th April 2007, 22:30

Hey all i was on the sea diamond, and to clarify a few things. I think it would be ethically wrong for you lot to dive on the ship. My opinion. 2nd point is that there was no time to grab any belongings as it tipped so fast it felt like it would continue and roll upisde down. Thirdly there is money on the boat however because the boat used a card payment system..All the money would be at the reception most likely ... so might be hard to get too....

Paul Evans · 8th April 2007, 23:47

I think people are forgeting something.............

The Greeks really don't like people wreck diving. Diving is Strictly controlled.

Let alone the ethical reasons, That will be something else the Greeks consider very highly.

I would be very very suprised if Diving was allowed.

PaulTG2 · 9th April 2007, 01:41

Hello,

Forget the casino... definately not a cash business on most ships.

However... every cruise I've been on has had substantial amounts in the jewelry shops. I wonder if the abandon ship drill includes grabbing all the diamonds and gold.

-p

rdmmdr · 9th April 2007, 04:45

you people are sick

we have two individuals dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A FATHER AND HIS CHILD DIED.

to even joke about raiding the ship at this point, is in so much bad taste everyone that posted should get red.

rick m

7th April 2007, 22:16	#21 (permalink)
MrClive RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: cork city ireland Posts: 176	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece what are you talking about? im asking a simple question, thats all
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Outlaw In search of Law breaking Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cyprus, Nicosia Posts: 683	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece Quote: (Originally Posted by lady) hi all, sorry 2 invade but is there any news on the father and daughter hi mate, the latest is that greek divers from the army, (they use the term" specialized army divers" ) are diving on the wreck and still searching. the mother said that she went on the top deck to find her son, and she told the father to meet her with their daughter on the top deck soon. They are still missing, not found yet. hope they are found. Spyros __________________ CMAS - IANTD - TDI Kamikazi Instrustor Trainer DIRRebreather Team Member ---------------------------- "Once an Outlaw, always an Outlaw"
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Gobfish1 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 396	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece Quote: (Originally Posted by lady) what are you talking about? im asking a simple question, thats all No news on the father and daughter, that I know of, sorry just a bit if you know what i mean __________________ Steve G Apparently not the only gay diver in the village http://drinkingliberally.org/blogs/o...nzee-glock.gif http://www.scubatunes.com/audio/vol01/mp3/HiTech.mp3
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MrClive RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: cork city ireland Posts: 176	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece cheers mate, i hope so too
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8th April 2007, 20:41	#25 (permalink)
milka New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Illetas - Mallorca - Spain Posts: 8	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece Sad news for the family. What about the ethics ? i was having a discussion with my wife about this. One one part we have : it's like robbery... or pillage of the stuff as the people have not yet got anything from insurance... and with the grief and on the other hand we have... that could be a cool dive and there must be buckets of cash in the tills of the ship casino... + the rest in the cabins. what do you guys think ? inany case... here are some deck plans : Sea Diamond Deck Plans
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8th April 2007, 21:06	#26 (permalink)
Outlaw In search of Law breaking Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cyprus, Nicosia Posts: 683	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece Quote: (Originally Posted by milka) Sad news for the family. What about the ethics ? i was having a discussion with my wife about this. One one part we have : it's like robbery... or pillage of the stuff as the people have not yet got anything from insurance... and with the grief and on the other hand we have... that could be a cool dive and there must be buckets of cash in the tills of the ship casino... + the rest in the cabins. what do you guys think ? inany case... here are some deck plans : Sea Diamond Deck Plans Milka, thanks for pointing this out. i do understand your concerns. Just to put it this way, suppose you were onthat ship, and had your precious laptop with more than 5000 pictures and other work stuff, etc. and you lost it. just like that. i mean, at the beggining you just want to get out alive, but after that, you kind of feel that " ok, am alive, but what about my stuff"... The thing with insurance will be more complicated from what i think. off course to get paid, you have to have your stuff insured, cause who was thinking that this supership could go down? then again, the insurance companies will propably find excuses not to pay cause the ship went down so late, which means that the passengers had a plenty of time to pick their valuables at least...and they didn't. Then again, the passengers will be blaming the crew which probably told them to evacuate at once and they caused panic...and finally the company will divert the blame somewhere else... it's a pity, but from my work, i gather that it would be a long circus, which will aim to throw the blame elsewhere, resulting in a settlement, once a long time has gone without pay, and achieving a settlement by consent onthe amount. Now, the company will play a role into that, because is under a lot of fire at the moment. Sorry to hassle you, but like you, i am having chats with my wife about this...i guess most of the people are, cause it could happen to anyone of us. Cheers... PS. if they decide to leave it there, then those maps could come in handy....in the summer...and an excuse to the wife to have a long diving week! take care. Spyros. __________________ CMAS - IANTD - TDI Kamikazi Instrustor Trainer DIRRebreather Team Member ---------------------------- "Once an Outlaw, always an Outlaw"
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8th April 2007, 22:30	#27 (permalink)
chaz New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: High Wycombe Posts: 5	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece Hey all i was on the sea diamond, and to clarify a few things. I think it would be ethically wrong for you lot to dive on the ship. My opinion. 2nd point is that there was no time to grab any belongings as it tipped so fast it felt like it would continue and roll upisde down. Thirdly there is money on the boat however because the boat used a card payment system..All the money would be at the reception most likely ... so might be hard to get too....
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8th April 2007, 23:47	#28 (permalink)
Paul Evans Freedom is the Key. Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: London Posts: 162	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece I think people are forgeting something............. The Greeks really don't like people wreck diving. Diving is Strictly controlled. Let alone the ethical reasons, That will be something else the Greeks consider very highly. I would be very very suprised if Diving was allowed. __________________ "To many lies, far to much BS" Anon!.......... will do........ "Any time anyone says, 'there is only one right way to do this' your bullshit meter should be pegged. Its a presumptive statement, made by a person who fears being proved wrong." Bill Gavin.
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9th April 2007, 01:41	#29 (permalink)
PaulTG2 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 517	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece Hello, Forget the casino... definately not a cash business on most ships. However... every cruise I've been on has had substantial amounts in the jewelry shops. I wonder if the abandon ship drill includes grabbing all the diamonds and gold. -p
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rdmmdr designer of death Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: kerman,california Posts: 372	Re: Sea Diamond Wreck in Greece you people are sick we have two individuals dead!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A FATHER AND HIS CHILD DIED. to even joke about raiding the ship at this point, is in so much bad taste everyone that posted should get red. rick m
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