Rebreather World Store 'Ultimate' Torch Range

Mark Chase · 14th January 2008, 08:46

A well designed goodmans handle and a long thin battery pac is nice for mounting on the unit. Option of tight signaling beem or wider flood using a variable head would be good.

Switches on the torch head are more convenient than switches on the can if you back mount. If for cost saving it must be on the can make sure the batery pack will tolerate being inverted most of the time. Having the switch at the bottom makes turning it on and off much easier.

ATB

Mark

Dinspiration · 14th January 2008, 11:48

You should have a look to the TilyTec MPL system. Created by the same man, that originally invented the Greenforce lights. The new TillyTec MPL System is at least 2 or 3 generations ahead of the "old" Greenforce range, but still 100% compatble. I use a TT35 HID or TRI 500 LED head with a TT3 canister.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

Just wanted to add- wrt Greenforce lights, the batteries and cables seem fine but the lamp heads are oversized and ugly, I've seen their HID heads and they are larger than the battery on my Sartek! Please don't go there?

windymiller · 14th January 2008, 13:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

Just wanted to add- wrt Greenforce lights, the batteries and cables seem fine but the lamp heads are oversized and ugly, I've seen their HID heads and they are larger than the battery on my Sartek! Please don't go there?

What?! You should look at the batteries..I have the GF F4 battery pack, its HUGE...Its longer than an evolution case, probably a inspiration case as well!

It looks like i ve got a howitzer strapped to my back!

Apart from that its pretty good though

Ben Field · 14th January 2008, 14:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by windymiller)

...Its longer than an evolution case

Yes well so's my xxxx however thats not showing off, the Evo is tiny

Sorry, bit off topic...

windymiller · 14th January 2008, 15:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

Yes well so's my xxxx however thats not showing off, the Evo is tiny

Sorry, bit off topic...

Wish mine was!!

**PhilSiswick** · 14th January 2008, 16:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by windymiller)

Wish mine was!!

He meant his ego, sorry

Cheers,

fredrik · 14th January 2008, 18:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by Barrie Law)

The dive club I belong to in Dublin had 10 of it's members buy them and all of them had problems with flooding and the finish was less than impressive after even moderate use.

I think one of the guy's had his Torch back 4 times for repairs and in fact my own video lights flooded during their first use.

Hmmmmmmmmm!
I think there might be another side of this story as well.

Anyway I don´t think this is a proper or serious way to talk about another manufactors products. (That noone else, except you Barrie, seem to have problem with.)

matt crane · 29th January 2008, 09:57

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

Just wanted to add- wrt Greenforce lights, the batteries and cables seem fine but the lamp heads are oversized and ugly, I've seen their HID heads and they are larger than the battery on my Sartek! Please don't go there?

I use the F2 battery with the HID50 head and it is quite possibly the most compact umbilical system that I have seen the head is definitely small enough sit on the back of my hand very comfortably to the extent I dont even feel it.

And it gives me a 4hr burn time the only thing missing is a focusable beam which has now been addressed and is available to buy.

I would agree though that the HID100 is larger.

The only thing I dont like about my torch is the way its turned on and off, turning the head itself is a bit dodgy if yo get a bit over enthusiastic it is easy to turn it too far and flood the head/cable I would prefer a on/off switch of some sort.

paulraymaekers · 29th January 2008, 10:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dinspiration)

You should have a look to the TilyTec MPL system. Created by the same man, that originally invented the Greenforce lights.

????? eeuuhh

very sure about that??

I happen to know the GF boys for some years

regards
paul

Dinspiration · 29th January 2008, 11:52

You can ask Tilly Thomas directly about the relationship between GF and TillyTec......

Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers)

????? eeuuhh

very sure about that??

I happen to know the GF boys for some years

regards
paul

14th January 2008, 08:46	#21 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,417	Re: Rebreather World Store 'Ultimate' Torch Range A well designed goodmans handle and a long thin battery pac is nice for mounting on the unit. Option of tight signaling beem or wider flood using a variable head would be good. Switches on the torch head are more convenient than switches on the can if you back mount. If for cost saving it must be on the can make sure the batery pack will tolerate being inverted most of the time. Having the switch at the bottom makes turning it on and off much easier. ATB Mark __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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14th January 2008, 11:48	#22 (permalink)
Dinspiration Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Switzerland Posts: 195	Re: Rebreather World Store 'Ultimate' Torch Range You should have a look to the TilyTec MPL system. Created by the same man, that originally invented the Greenforce lights. The new TillyTec MPL System is at least 2 or 3 generations ahead of the "old" Greenforce range, but still 100% compatble. I use a TT35 HID or TRI 500 LED head with a TT3 canister. Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) Just wanted to add- wrt Greenforce lights, the batteries and cables seem fine but the lamp heads are oversized and ugly, I've seen their HID heads and they are larger than the battery on my Sartek! Please don't go there?
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14th January 2008, 13:04	#23 (permalink)
windymiller All The Gear, No Idea Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: england Posts: 223	Re: Rebreather World Store 'Ultimate' Torch Range Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) Just wanted to add- wrt Greenforce lights, the batteries and cables seem fine but the lamp heads are oversized and ugly, I've seen their HID heads and they are larger than the battery on my Sartek! Please don't go there? What?! You should look at the batteries..I have the GF F4 battery pack, its HUGE...Its longer than an evolution case, probably a inspiration case as well! It looks like i ve got a howitzer strapped to my back! Apart from that its pretty good though
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14th January 2008, 14:07	#24 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,451	Re: Rebreather World Store 'Ultimate' Torch Range Quote: (Originally Posted by windymiller) ...Its longer than an evolution case Yes well so's my xxxx however thats not showing off, the Evo is tiny Sorry, bit off topic... __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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14th January 2008, 15:52	#25 (permalink)
windymiller All The Gear, No Idea Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: england Posts: 223	Re: Rebreather World Store 'Ultimate' Torch Range Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) Yes well so's my xxxx however thats not showing off, the Evo is tiny Sorry, bit off topic... Wish mine was!!
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14th January 2008, 16:08	#26 (permalink)
PhilSiswick WSKD 0001 Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 880	Re: Rebreather World Store 'Ultimate' Torch Range Quote: (Originally Posted by windymiller) Wish mine was!! He meant his ego, sorry Cheers, __________________ Phil No comment on open circuit... it's an evolutionary dead end not really worth discussing here. Dave Sutton, 2007 I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 www.hugsac.org.uk
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14th January 2008, 18:47	#27 (permalink)
fredrik Rekodeko. Sweden Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sweden Posts: 182	Re: Rebreather World Store 'Ultimate' Torch Range Quote: (Originally Posted by Barrie Law) The dive club I belong to in Dublin had 10 of it's members buy them and all of them had problems with flooding and the finish was less than impressive after even moderate use. I think one of the guy's had his Torch back 4 times for repairs and in fact my own video lights flooded during their first use. Hmmmmmmmmm! I think there might be another side of this story as well. Anyway I don´t think this is a proper or serious way to talk about another manufactors products. (That noone else, except you Barrie, seem to have problem with.) __________________ Fredrik Rekodeko, Sweden http://www.rekodeko.se
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29th January 2008, 09:57	#28 (permalink)
matt crane New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cornwall Posts: 56	Re: Rebreather World Store 'Ultimate' Torch Range Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) Just wanted to add- wrt Greenforce lights, the batteries and cables seem fine but the lamp heads are oversized and ugly, I've seen their HID heads and they are larger than the battery on my Sartek! Please don't go there? I use the F2 battery with the HID50 head and it is quite possibly the most compact umbilical system that I have seen the head is definitely small enough sit on the back of my hand very comfortably to the extent I dont even feel it. And it gives me a 4hr burn time the only thing missing is a focusable beam which has now been addressed and is available to buy. I would agree though that the HID100 is larger. The only thing I dont like about my torch is the way its turned on and off, turning the head itself is a bit dodgy if yo get a bit over enthusiastic it is easy to turn it too far and flood the head/cable I would prefer a on/off switch of some sort.
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29th January 2008, 10:42	#29 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,349	Re: Rebreather World Store 'Ultimate' Torch Range Quote: (Originally Posted by Dinspiration) You should have a look to the TilyTec MPL system. Created by the same man, that originally invented the Greenforce lights. ????? eeuuhh very sure about that?? I happen to know the GF boys for some years regards paul __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials...
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29th January 2008, 11:52	#30 (permalink)
Dinspiration Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Switzerland Posts: 195	Re: Rebreather World Store 'Ultimate' Torch Range You can ask Tilly Thomas directly about the relationship between GF and TillyTec...... Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers) ????? eeuuhh very sure about that?? I happen to know the GF boys for some years regards paul
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