Potential Cave / Cavern Trip to Mexico

***schford*** · 10th June 2005, 09:24

Dear All,

We are thinking of planning an Rebreather World Cave / Cavern trip to Mexico.

The exact format is yet to be worked out but it would have an element of flexibility in it.

Duration would be 7 to 10 days (you choose), time there could be spend guided cave / cavern diving with the potential for one or two days in the carribean sea diving some wrecks and reefs.

We could also organise Cavern and Cave courses.

We would need at least 10 to make this trip viable.....Show of hands if anyone is interested?

Dates dependant on interest...

Stuart

Mark Chase · 10th June 2005, 09:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

Dear All,

We are thinking of planning an Rebreather World Cave / Cavern trip to Mexico.

The exact format is yet to be worked out but it would have an element of flexibility in it.

Duration would be 7 to 10 days (you choose), time there could be spend guided cave / cavern diving with the potential for one or two days in the carribean sea diving some wrecks and reefs.

We could also organise Cavern and Cave courses.

We would need at least 10 to make this trip viable.....Show of hands if anyone is interested?

Dates dependant on interest...

Stuart

If its between Feb and May 06 I am very interested. Andyp could probably be persuaded as well.

ATB

Mark Chase

AndyP · 10th June 2005, 09:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

If its between Feb and May 06 I am very interested. Andyp could probably be persuaded as well.

ATB

Mark Chase

It really wouldn't take much persuasion

Andrew

***EBT*** · 10th June 2005, 10:43

Depends on cost.... personally I'd prefer OC for mexico. Its shallow and goes on miiiles.

Mark Chase · 10th June 2005, 11:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by wreckweasel)

Depends on cost.... personally I'd prefer OC for mexico. Its shallow and goes on miiiles.

Please explain why?

To me its like Cave get into trouble. CCR loads of time to sort it? Are you just trying to minimise equipemnt by doing it on thirds with no stages.

PS if we go will they insist on a cave corse for going beyound the daylight zone?

ATB

Mark Chase

ATB

Mark Chase

Duncan Price · 10th June 2005, 11:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by wreckweasel)

Depends on cost.... personally I'd prefer OC for mexico. Its shallow and goes on miiiles.

Me too. Might be interested so long as I could dive sidemounts and didn't have to go in the sea. I'd take my rebreather but like Zak don't really see the need.

Edit: I don't need to do a cave course.

***EBT*** · 10th June 2005, 11:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

Please explain why?

To me its like Cave get into trouble. CCR loads of time to sort it? Are you just trying to minimise equipemnt by doing it on thirds with no stages.

PS if we go will they insit on a cave corse for gonig beyound the daylight zone?

Yes. Why have all the logistics hassle and risk of using a CCR when an OC twinset/sidemounts is perfectly adequate? There are some benefits to CCR in mexico, but I doubt we'd be doing the sites to warrant the hassle for me. Im a lazy diver

The CCR to me is just a tool, not a religious belief. Sorry for being a heretic

As for a course, damn right skippy. If you're not trained in some way, you don't belong there.

Mark Chase · 10th June 2005, 11:18

Quote: (Originally Posted by wreckweasel)

Yes.

The CCR to me is just a tool, not a religious belief. Sorry for being a heretic

As for a course, damn right skippy. If you're not trained in some way, you don't belong there.

No I am with you all the way, I only dive CCR coz it what i need to do.

As for the corse i was wondering if they did Muppet guided dives inside the cave or if we had to do a cave course reguardless. If we do i will try to get it done before we go, thats all.

I dont think I would be attempting Ressal without training but from what I have seen of the Mexico caves on the net they are silt free masive 30m viz and easy.
Thats a slightly diferent set of peramiters

ATB

Mark Chase

***EBT*** · 10th June 2005, 11:25

Get trained, simple as.

for example, mexico you get exposed to lots more side tunnels than in ressel, you have snap'n'gaps, line junctions, in some places T's.... and theres a whole lot of protocols.

As for trusting guides.... hmmmm... your call

decoweenie · 10th June 2005, 12:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by schford)

Show of hands if anyone is interested?

I might be interested depending on who are coming.

Don't mean to be snooty, but I don't like the idea of cave diving with someone I have never met or dived together before.

I (1/2) agree with Zak about CC, but I could easily bring the Sport-KISS there so not a big deal on logistic. Plus having a full 80cf OC stage will be more gas than on 1/3 anyway...

10th June 2005, 09:24	#1 (permalink)
*schford* Despotic Overlord Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 3,687	Potential Cave / Cavern Trip to Mexico Dear All, We are thinking of planning an Rebreather World Cave / Cavern trip to Mexico. The exact format is yet to be worked out but it would have an element of flexibility in it. Duration would be 7 to 10 days (you choose), time there could be spend guided cave / cavern diving with the potential for one or two days in the carribean sea diving some wrecks and reefs. We could also organise Cavern and Cave courses. We would need at least 10 to make this trip viable.....Show of hands if anyone is interested? Dates dependant on interest... Stuart
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10th June 2005, 09:31	#2 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,693	Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) Dear All, We are thinking of planning an Rebreather World Cave / Cavern trip to Mexico. The exact format is yet to be worked out but it would have an element of flexibility in it. Duration would be 7 to 10 days (you choose), time there could be spend guided cave / cavern diving with the potential for one or two days in the carribean sea diving some wrecks and reefs. We could also organise Cavern and Cave courses. We would need at least 10 to make this trip viable.....Show of hands if anyone is interested? Dates dependant on interest... Stuart If its between Feb and May 06 I am very interested. Andyp could probably be persuaded as well. ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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10th June 2005, 09:50	#3 (permalink)
AndyP Mutter Grumble Groan Moan Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK Posts: 93	Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) If its between Feb and May 06 I am very interested. Andyp could probably be persuaded as well. ATB Mark Chase It really wouldn't take much persuasion Andrew
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10th June 2005, 10:43	#4 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 1,994	Depends on cost.... personally I'd prefer OC for mexico. Its shallow and goes on miiiles. __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! Rebreather World Terms of service Real diving t-shirts for real divers
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10th June 2005, 11:07	#5 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,693	Quote: (Originally Posted by wreckweasel) Depends on cost.... personally I'd prefer OC for mexico. Its shallow and goes on miiiles. Please explain why? To me its like Cave get into trouble. CCR loads of time to sort it? Are you just trying to minimise equipemnt by doing it on thirds with no stages. PS if we go will they insist on a cave corse for going beyound the daylight zone? ATB Mark Chase ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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10th June 2005, 11:08	#6 (permalink)
Duncan Price Sump Monster Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Wells, Somerset, UK Posts: 337	Quote: (Originally Posted by wreckweasel) Depends on cost.... personally I'd prefer OC for mexico. Its shallow and goes on miiiles. Me too. Might be interested so long as I could dive sidemounts and didn't have to go in the sea. I'd take my rebreather but like Zak don't really see the need. Edit: I don't need to do a cave course.
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10th June 2005, 11:10	#7 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 1,994	Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) Please explain why? To me its like Cave get into trouble. CCR loads of time to sort it? Are you just trying to minimise equipemnt by doing it on thirds with no stages. PS if we go will they insit on a cave corse for gonig beyound the daylight zone? Yes. Why have all the logistics hassle and risk of using a CCR when an OC twinset/sidemounts is perfectly adequate? There are some benefits to CCR in mexico, but I doubt we'd be doing the sites to warrant the hassle for me. Im a lazy diver The CCR to me is just a tool, not a religious belief. Sorry for being a heretic As for a course, damn right skippy. If you're not trained in some way, you don't belong there. __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! Rebreather World Terms of service Real diving t-shirts for real divers
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10th June 2005, 11:18	#8 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,693	Quote: (Originally Posted by wreckweasel) Yes. The CCR to me is just a tool, not a religious belief. Sorry for being a heretic As for a course, damn right skippy. If you're not trained in some way, you don't belong there. No I am with you all the way, I only dive CCR coz it what i need to do. As for the corse i was wondering if they did Muppet guided dives inside the cave or if we had to do a cave course reguardless. If we do i will try to get it done before we go, thats all. I dont think I would be attempting Ressal without training but from what I have seen of the Mexico caves on the net they are silt free masive 30m viz and easy. Thats a slightly diferent set of peramiters ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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10th June 2005, 11:25	#9 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 1,994	Get trained, simple as. for example, mexico you get exposed to lots more side tunnels than in ressel, you have snap'n'gaps, line junctions, in some places T's.... and theres a whole lot of protocols. As for trusting guides.... hmmmm... your call __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! Rebreather World Terms of service Real diving t-shirts for real divers
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10th June 2005, 12:58	#10 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Quote: (Originally Posted by schford) Show of hands if anyone is interested? I might be interested depending on who are coming. Don't mean to be snooty, but I don't like the idea of cave diving with someone I have never met or dived together before. I (1/2) agree with Zak about CC, but I could easily bring the Sport-KISS there so not a big deal on logistic. Plus having a full 80cf OC stage will be more gas than on 1/3 anyway...
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