Potential Cave / Cavern Trip to Mexico

***Decodiver*** · 10th June 2005, 20:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

Cracking

See I knew someone would reckognise my nateral abuility and not waste my time with all that silly training

ATB

Mark Chase

Tremendous!! PMSL!!

Dave.

**RichClark** · 11th June 2005, 09:26

Quote: (Originally Posted by Duncan Price)

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***EBT*** · 11th June 2005, 12:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Do I have to ?

Hell no, I wouldn't dive with me, given the choice

The only reason I dove with Stuart was for the amusement factor.... (tenner says he bails off the bagpipes with 30 mins)

ROB DAVIE · 11th June 2005, 15:36

No offense, but I think the folks are missing the point. It would be a re-breather cave deal, because this is a re-breather group, and the trip is being set up by a re-breather guy (Stuart). I know it's a tool guys, but if we were talking OC, this Board would have a different name, n'est pas?

Cheers, guys! (This is made in a friendly way, folks,
so no

!!!! )

Rob

***caveseeker7*** · 11th June 2005, 16:08

I'm not so sure about the folks missing the point, Rob.

I understand what you're saying, but cave diving is pretty serious diving.
Caves, even the most shallow and beautifully decorated ones, are a very
unforgiving environment. Not a place to bring toys, but to bring tools, and
only those you need. That's a fair argument to make, and it's made by
people who have the experience to back it up.

ROB DAVIE · 11th June 2005, 16:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

I'm not so sure about the folks missing the point, Rob.

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

I understand what you're saying, but cave diving is pretty serious diving.
Caves, even the most shallow and beautifully decorated ones, are a very
unforgiving environment. Not a place to bring toys, but to bring tools, and
only those you need. That's a fair argument to make, and it's made by
people who have the experience to back it up.

I don't disagree with any of your points, except for your concept that the Rebreather is a toy, instead of a tool.

I don't know about you, but I'm trying to give up OC diving completely, although it is hard to break any bad habit. I suspect you'll be the same when you finally get your Prism.

Cheers!

Rob

***EBT*** · 11th June 2005, 16:43

Opinions are like arseholes

Rob, I take it you know the mexico scene far better than me (you're all just north mexicans in the states, right?

). My concern lay in getting O2, Sorb, drive and bailout tanks sorted. If that can be done easily and theres dives that warrant it, Im happy to take the incredible fart recycler.

If it can't/the dives dont justify it, I'd rather go on OC. If that precludes me from being part of a trip, I guess thats fair enough

/Zak (only a weenie cave diver)

PS. Chaps I've spoken to out there havent been that encouraging about availability of stuff..... but Im happy to be corrected

ROB DAVIE · 11th June 2005, 17:34

Quote: (Originally Posted by wreckweasel)

Rob, I take it you know the mexico scene far better than me (you're all just north mexicans in the states, right?

). My concern lay in getting O2, Sorb, drive and bailout tanks sorted. If that can be done easily and theres dives that warrant it, Im happy to take the incredible fart recycler.

Zak (only a weenie cave diver)

PS. Chaps I've spoken to out there havent been that encouraging about availability of stuff..... but Im happy to be corrected

Zak,

Si, es la verdad! Yo soy un Nortemexicano!!

Ai-yi-yi-yi-yahee!!!

Protec Playa de Carmen, which is right in the heart of that region, and is an advertiser on our Board, offers sorb, tin-filling, boosting, O2, helium for deep ocean diving, and even Rebreather hire. They have a good staff of guides and instructors.

As always, there are pro's and con's to everything. An awful lot of the cave diving is shallow, i.e. in the 60 to 70 ft range, so there is the added challenge of diving your Rebreather in shallow depths, but with a rock ceiling right above your back. On the other hand, there are areas affording very long penetrations, with fairly tight restrictions. There are relatively short cave and cavern tours to show off the stalactites and stalagmites (beautiful), as well.

A friend of mine, who is both a commercial diver instructor and a NAUI technical guy just came back from a trip there, and he said that the swims were very long, with a couple of spots where he and his buddy had to remove their twin-sets to get through.

So, in essence, you can have it easy. You can have it hard. You can have it any way you want it down there, at Alicita's Restaurant!

Rob

***caveseeker7*** · 11th June 2005, 17:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by ROB DAVIE)

I don't disagree with any of your points, except for your concept that the Rebreather is a toy, instead of a tool.

Rob, I didn't mean any disrespect or ill will towards RBs by calling them a toy.
Just that they are unlikely to be required for the profiles and hence not a needed tool.

It kind of depends on your definitions, I guess, like boat, ship and yacht.

Quote: (Originally Posted by wreckweasel)

My concern lay in getting O2, Sorb, drive and bailout tanks sorted.

Pro Tec in Playa del Carmen should be able to sort out supplies and tanks,
they are a rebreather and cave diving training center.
Scott will be able to answer your questions.

ROB DAVIE · 11th June 2005, 18:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

Rob, I didn't mean any disrespect or ill will towards RBs by calling them a toy.
Just that they are unlikely to be required for the profiles and hence not a needed tool.

Stefan,

Hey I took that as understood from the start! You wouldn't be an Administrator on this Board, or a writer and photographer about Rebreather's if you thought they were just toys. You take great photo's, and your articles are good for obtaining news and knowledge about a lot of RB's!

As I said in my post above, the diving is mostly shallow, so Rebreather's are not really required, but then, like a lot of our folks, I'm just trying to get to the point where all of my diving is done on RB, except for bail-out! (...and hopefully, not a lot of that!!!)

Rob

10th June 2005, 20:41	#21 (permalink)
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11th June 2005, 12:54	#23 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 1,972	Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Do I have to ? Hell no, I wouldn't dive with me, given the choice The only reason I dove with Stuart was for the amusement factor.... (tenner says he bails off the bagpipes with 30 mins) __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! Rebreather World Terms of service Real diving t-shirts for real divers
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11th June 2005, 15:36	#24 (permalink)
ROB DAVIE Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HOUSTON, REPUBLIC OF TEJAS Posts: 1,120	No offense, but I think the folks are missing the point. It would be a re-breather cave deal, because this is a re-breather group, and the trip is being set up by a re-breather guy (Stuart). I know it's a tool guys, but if we were talking OC, this Board would have a different name, n'est pas? Cheers, guys! (This is made in a friendly way, folks, so no !!!! ) Rob __________________ [SIZE=2]"CC Rebreathers will become a viable part of tech diving [U]WHEN PIGS FLY[/U]!!"--GI3[/SIZE]
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11th June 2005, 16:08	#25 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,456	I'm not so sure about the folks missing the point, Rob. I understand what you're saying, but cave diving is pretty serious diving. Caves, even the most shallow and beautifully decorated ones, are a very unforgiving environment. Not a place to bring toys, but to bring tools, and only those you need. That's a fair argument to make, and it's made by people who have the experience to back it up. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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11th June 2005, 16:20	#26 (permalink)
ROB DAVIE Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HOUSTON, REPUBLIC OF TEJAS Posts: 1,120	Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) I'm not so sure about the folks missing the point, Rob. Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) I understand what you're saying, but cave diving is pretty serious diving. Caves, even the most shallow and beautifully decorated ones, are a very unforgiving environment. Not a place to bring toys, but to bring tools, and only those you need. That's a fair argument to make, and it's made by people who have the experience to back it up. I don't disagree with any of your points, except for your concept that the Rebreather is a toy, instead of a tool. I don't know about you, but I'm trying to give up OC diving completely, although it is hard to break any bad habit. I suspect you'll be the same when you finally get your Prism. Cheers! Rob __________________ [SIZE=2]"CC Rebreathers will become a viable part of tech diving [U]WHEN PIGS FLY[/U]!!"--GI3[/SIZE]
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11th June 2005, 16:43	#27 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 1,972	Opinions are like arseholes Rob, I take it you know the mexico scene far better than me (you're all just north mexicans in the states, right? ). My concern lay in getting O2, Sorb, drive and bailout tanks sorted. If that can be done easily and theres dives that warrant it, Im happy to take the incredible fart recycler. If it can't/the dives dont justify it, I'd rather go on OC. If that precludes me from being part of a trip, I guess thats fair enough /Zak (only a weenie cave diver) PS. Chaps I've spoken to out there havent been that encouraging about availability of stuff..... but Im happy to be corrected __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! Rebreather World Terms of service Real diving t-shirts for real divers
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11th June 2005, 17:34	#28 (permalink)
ROB DAVIE Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HOUSTON, REPUBLIC OF TEJAS Posts: 1,120	Quote: (Originally Posted by wreckweasel) Rob, I take it you know the mexico scene far better than me (you're all just north mexicans in the states, right? ). My concern lay in getting O2, Sorb, drive and bailout tanks sorted. If that can be done easily and theres dives that warrant it, Im happy to take the incredible fart recycler. Zak (only a weenie cave diver) PS. Chaps I've spoken to out there havent been that encouraging about availability of stuff..... but Im happy to be corrected Zak, Si, es la verdad! Yo soy un Nortemexicano!! Ai-yi-yi-yi-yahee!!! Protec Playa de Carmen, which is right in the heart of that region, and is an advertiser on our Board, offers sorb, tin-filling, boosting, O2, helium for deep ocean diving, and even Rebreather hire. They have a good staff of guides and instructors. As always, there are pro's and con's to everything. An awful lot of the cave diving is shallow, i.e. in the 60 to 70 ft range, so there is the added challenge of diving your Rebreather in shallow depths, but with a rock ceiling right above your back. On the other hand, there are areas affording very long penetrations, with fairly tight restrictions. There are relatively short cave and cavern tours to show off the stalactites and stalagmites (beautiful), as well. A friend of mine, who is both a commercial diver instructor and a NAUI technical guy just came back from a trip there, and he said that the swims were very long, with a couple of spots where he and his buddy had to remove their twin-sets to get through. So, in essence, you can have it easy. You can have it hard. You can have it any way you want it down there, at Alicita's Restaurant! Rob __________________ [SIZE=2]"CC Rebreathers will become a viable part of tech diving [U]WHEN PIGS FLY[/U]!!"--GI3[/SIZE]
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11th June 2005, 17:42	#29 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,456	Quote: (Originally Posted by ROB DAVIE) I don't disagree with any of your points, except for your concept that the Rebreather is a toy, instead of a tool. Rob, I didn't mean any disrespect or ill will towards RBs by calling them a toy. Just that they are unlikely to be required for the profiles and hence not a needed tool. It kind of depends on your definitions, I guess, like boat, ship and yacht. Quote: (Originally Posted by wreckweasel) My concern lay in getting O2, Sorb, drive and bailout tanks sorted. Pro Tec in Playa del Carmen should be able to sort out supplies and tanks, they are a rebreather and cave diving training center. Scott will be able to answer your questions. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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11th June 2005, 18:03	#30 (permalink)
ROB DAVIE Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: HOUSTON, REPUBLIC OF TEJAS Posts: 1,120	Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) Rob, I didn't mean any disrespect or ill will towards RBs by calling them a toy. Just that they are unlikely to be required for the profiles and hence not a needed tool. Stefan, Hey I took that as understood from the start! You wouldn't be an Administrator on this Board, or a writer and photographer about Rebreather's if you thought they were just toys. You take great photo's, and your articles are good for obtaining news and knowledge about a lot of RB's! As I said in my post above, the diving is mostly shallow, so Rebreather's are not really required, but then, like a lot of our folks, I'm just trying to get to the point where all of my diving is done on RB, except for bail-out! (...and hopefully, not a lot of that!!!) Rob __________________ [SIZE=2]"CC Rebreathers will become a viable part of tech diving [U]WHEN PIGS FLY[/U]!!"--GI3[/SIZE]
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