Bikini Atoll, how to save ops?

bherring68 · 30th May 2008, 01:46

You'd still have that long surface swim after the dive...

Quote: (Originally Posted by fireman)

Well I have jumped out of a helocopter from about 15ft with OC gear, at night in the winter in chicago. So for a chance to dive Bikini, I would try from 35000...

mempilot · 30th May 2008, 02:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by kybrt)

i wonder how far it is by boat from maujaro?? <sp>

About 500 miles. This is why you need the puddle jumpers. The runway is just shy of 5000 feet, which allows turbo props and corporate jets to get in, but the jets can't get back out loaded to the hilt and have enough fuel to get anywhere other than Majuro.

mattias · 30th May 2008, 07:42

So it looks like live aboard is the only realistic choice... Maybe we should drop a line to Aggresor fleet?

jkaterenchuk · 30th May 2008, 12:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by mattias)

So it looks like live aboard is the only realistic choice... Maybe we should drop a line to Aggresor fleet?

If you want to support a operation that does not support CCR divers.

John

netmage · 30th May 2008, 12:28

Kwaj and Rongelap are closer... I seem to recall the Contrinental flight stopping there....

Perhaps get someone like the Thorfin to spend a month out of the year doing Bikini? Move the boat from Truk to MI, pick up folks at Kwaj or Rongelap, take them to Bikini....

**fireman** · 31st May 2008, 22:52

So what do you think...$7000 for 2 weeks of CCR diving at bikini, with He...

jiseson · 1st June 2008, 11:23

CDNN :: Bikini Atoll Divers Bankrupt, Out of Business bikini atoll divers bankrupt

nskdrs · 3rd June 2008, 05:27

Majuro to Bikini is 430nm.

Continental stops in Kwajalein, yes.
Kwaj approx half way.
Problem with Kwaj is access to harbor, known to be difficult.

Anybody private who got permission to tie in there?

Runway on Bikini is NOT for Jets, no asphalt,
only suitable for props, too much sand and stones flying arround.

Rongelab is approx. 200nm with asphalt runway but approx. 500ft too short to land a 737 within liability laws.

Any frequent ops on Bikini would need to be ( partly at least )managed and under supervison of Bikini gov IMHO,
the wrecks are owned by the Bikinians.

HTH,
Hoffi

cramerdn · 3rd June 2008, 09:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by jiseson)

CDNN :: Bikini Atoll Divers Bankrupt, Out of Business bikini atoll divers bankrupt

CDNN is a well known missinformation source. You can bet the more absolute their claims the more likely the story has only small grains of truth. The Bikini web site has much more credible sounding information.

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bherring68 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 9	Re: Bikini Atoll, how to save ops? You'd still have that long surface swim after the dive... Quote: (Originally Posted by fireman) Well I have jumped out of a helocopter from about 15ft with OC gear, at night in the winter in chicago. So for a chance to dive Bikini, I would try from 35000...
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mempilot Eric Stadtmueller Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 1,472	Re: Bikini Atoll, how to save ops? Quote: (Originally Posted by kybrt) i wonder how far it is by boat from maujaro?? <sp> About 500 miles. This is why you need the puddle jumpers. The runway is just shy of 5000 feet, which allows turbo props and corporate jets to get in, but the jets can't get back out loaded to the hilt and have enough fuel to get anywhere other than Majuro. __________________ Eric Stadtmueller, otherwise known as, MEM "Da Pilot"
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3rd June 2008, 05:27	#18 (permalink)
nskdrs New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Not Bought Yet Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: germany Posts: 98	Re: Bikini Atoll, how to save ops? Majuro to Bikini is 430nm. Continental stops in Kwajalein, yes. Kwaj approx half way. Problem with Kwaj is access to harbor, known to be difficult. Anybody private who got permission to tie in there? Runway on Bikini is NOT for Jets, no asphalt, only suitable for props, too much sand and stones flying arround. Rongelab is approx. 200nm with asphalt runway but approx. 500ft too short to land a 737 within liability laws. Any frequent ops on Bikini would need to be ( partly at least )managed and under supervison of Bikini gov IMHO, the wrecks are owned by the Bikinians. HTH, Hoffi Last edited by nskdrs : 4th June 2008 at 01:47.
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