Information on Bari Harbor, Italy?

pwl4476 · 17th April 2008, 22:41

What can you share about diving in Bari Harbor in Italy? There's not a great deal of information out there on the bombing or sunken ships. There's anecdotal information that liquid mustard gas is still encoutered on rescue/salvage dives in the harbor.

Anyone with clear information about ships, depths, permissions? Anything at all? Any diving done there or has any been done in the past?

My understanding is that 17 allied ships were sunk by German bombers and I can find none that were removed.

I'd like to know more about it even if only to scratch the location off of the list.

Thanks,

Paul

pwl4476 · 17th April 2008, 23:01

Same goes for information on the Italian battleship Roma apparently sunk near the island of Asinara..

Thanks,

Paul

grahamsp · 18th April 2008, 10:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by pwl4476)

Same goes for information on the Italian battleship Roma apparently sunk near the island of Asinara..

Thanks,

Paul

The Roma was sunk off La Maddelena; lies in 300 m ('ish) of water. Go to The Sinking of the Battleship Roma for a very good summary of what happened.

Pity it's not diveable. One of the best-looking ships ever built.

Graham

Nemo1957 · 18th April 2008, 11:36

Quite an image that last one where she is broken in 2.

Crazyduck · 18th April 2008, 14:55

There was a TV show on HD about this reccently.
Called- Buried at Sea. Canadian production.
Also called European Pearl Harbor.

It seems from what the show was saying that the Allied forces were ready to use chemical weapons if need be. Hence alot of product was made and never used. At least one ship in Bari was loaded with chem weapons and was hit, burned and sunk. Unfortunatly, the Italian government has in intention to do anything about the situation.

I found a few things by seaching for "buried at Sea" "Bali Harbor" and "european Pearl Harbor." Because of the way search engines work I would plug it through google and then through Yahoo. Yahoo tends to find more native things in its search profile.

If I have a chance I will see if I can dig any more up.
Links-
NFB - Collection - Buried at Sea
http://www.planetinfocus.org/files/p...ied-At-Sea.pdf

It is a real shame that we can make such weapon platforms yet never take the time to produce a neutilizing method at the same time.

Andrew

Quote: (Originally Posted by pwl4476)

What can you share about diving in Bari Harbor in Italy? There's not a great deal of information out there on the bombing or sunken ships. There's anecdotal information that liquid mustard gas is still encoutered on rescue/salvage dives in the harbor.

Anyone with clear information about ships, depths, permissions? Anything at all? Any diving done there or has any been done in the past?

I'd like to know more about it even if only to scratch the location off of the list.

Thanks, Paul

**rigdiver** · 18th April 2008, 16:26

Contact Gabrielsub on this forum. He's an Italian Navy/Military diver. He's done extensive wreck diving in Italy for work and pleasure. Real wealth of knowledge and experience.

jean-marc · 18th April 2008, 18:14

I have been diving this area looking for all these famous wrecks like Vivaldi, Da Noli, ...
Once, we dove what was supposed to be the Da Noli, but in fact it was the Cromarty. This British minesweeper hit a mine and sunk on september 1943 23rd.
Another time we dove an old battleship which seems to be the Cassini (french WW1 croiseur), but still not Italian fleet.

So, there are still a lot to discover.

17th April 2008, 22:41	#1 (permalink)
pwl4476 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 113	Information on Bari Harbor, Italy? What can you share about diving in Bari Harbor in Italy? There's not a great deal of information out there on the bombing or sunken ships. There's anecdotal information that liquid mustard gas is still encoutered on rescue/salvage dives in the harbor. Anyone with clear information about ships, depths, permissions? Anything at all? Any diving done there or has any been done in the past? My understanding is that 17 allied ships were sunk by German bombers and I can find none that were removed. I'd like to know more about it even if only to scratch the location off of the list. Thanks, Paul
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17th April 2008, 23:01	#2 (permalink)
pwl4476 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Olathe, KS Posts: 113	Re: Information on Bari Harbor, Italy? Same goes for information on the Italian battleship Roma apparently sunk near the island of Asinara.. Thanks, Paul
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18th April 2008, 10:08	#3 (permalink)
grahamsp New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 117	Re: Information on Bari Harbor, Italy? Quote: (Originally Posted by pwl4476) Same goes for information on the Italian battleship Roma apparently sunk near the island of Asinara.. Thanks, Paul The Roma was sunk off La Maddelena; lies in 300 m ('ish) of water. Go to The Sinking of the Battleship Roma for a very good summary of what happened. Pity it's not diveable. One of the best-looking ships ever built. Graham
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Crazyduck Underwater Mechanic Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: TEXAS, Dallas/ Ft.Worth Posts: 718	Re: Information on Bari Harbor, Italy? There was a TV show on HD about this reccently. Called- Buried at Sea. Canadian production. Also called European Pearl Harbor. It seems from what the show was saying that the Allied forces were ready to use chemical weapons if need be. Hence alot of product was made and never used. At least one ship in Bari was loaded with chem weapons and was hit, burned and sunk. Unfortunatly, the Italian government has in intention to do anything about the situation. I found a few things by seaching for "buried at Sea" "Bali Harbor" and "european Pearl Harbor." Because of the way search engines work I would plug it through google and then through Yahoo. Yahoo tends to find more native things in its search profile. If I have a chance I will see if I can dig any more up. Links- NFB - Collection - Buried at Sea http://www.planetinfocus.org/files/p...ied-At-Sea.pdf It is a real shame that we can make such weapon platforms yet never take the time to produce a neutilizing method at the same time. Andrew Quote: (Originally Posted by pwl4476) What can you share about diving in Bari Harbor in Italy? There's not a great deal of information out there on the bombing or sunken ships. There's anecdotal information that liquid mustard gas is still encoutered on rescue/salvage dives in the harbor. Anyone with clear information about ships, depths, permissions? Anything at all? Any diving done there or has any been done in the past? I'd like to know more about it even if only to scratch the location off of the list. Thanks, Paul __________________ Howdy Senor- What’s Happening! Rob Davie April 2005- Presently in a state of transition from Open Circuit to Closed Circuit. "You will not be punished for your anger; you will be punished by it." - Buddha. Last edited by Crazyduck : 18th April 2008 at 15:05. Reason: added more Stuff
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