Highest Previous Certification Before CCR

lizardland · 26th January 2007, 11:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gobfish1)

Hi
lizard land
Did my trimix in 94 , and YES Iantd was the only flavour, only 3 instructors in the uk
Soon to be only 2 ,

Did you go to the USA and do your TM course with the man, or did you do you course in the uk too
Ps
Did you do deep air first , the blue card ,

Not seen you at dotty for some time now ,
have you moved back up to the lizard land ,
I mean Scotland,

the good old days A
5 nines 02 at £5 per j cylinder
5 nines he at 52 per j cylinder
And only £4 a pickup charge,
it was mix it your self or do with out ,
That reminds me , I must get a blending ticket ,

I think it was 95, I did it with a Scottish instructor, theory upstairs of DiMaggio's pizzeria in Glasgow, diving off the coast of Stavanger

I was going to do it with John Orlowski in Florida at the same time as my cave cert but decided to do it at home and save some money. My instructor wouldn't teach Deep Air even back then so did Tech EAN instead which was the same course really. Ahhh... cheap gas... £35 for a 300bar J bottle of helium from Dominion in Aberdeen... happy days!!!

I was at Dorothea on Sunday, I had some lime with an hour left on it and I don't like wasting it. A balmy 2degC when I downloaded my computer afterwards. I'm moving to Aberdeen later in the year, house went on the market yesterday, I should really clean up the piles of spilled lime in the garden.

Cheers,

Stuart

Depth-junkie · 26th January 2007, 11:54

Quote:

Hi
lizard land
Did my trimix in 94 , and YES Iantd was the only flavour, only 3 instructors in the uk
Soon to be only 2 ,

Did you go to the USA and do your TM course with the man, or did you do you course in the uk too
Ps
Did you do deep air first , the blue card ,

Not seen you at dotty for some time now ,
have you moved back up to the lizard land ,
I mean Scotland,

the good old days A
5 nines 02 at £5 per j cylinder
5 nines he at 52 per j cylinder
And only £4 a pickup charge,
it was mix it your self or do with out ,
That reminds me , I must get a blending ticket ,

__________________
Steve G

Hey Stevie, your showing your age there M8 shhhh..... i would keep it keep it quite if i were you.

I've seen his cards from way back when, he had hair and everything back then

ATB
Gareth

Gobfish1 · 26th January 2007, 12:08

You’re a better man than me
I should have been at dotty my self but I was to soft and stayed in bed , out of the weather.

Good luck with the move Stuart ,

Gobfish1 · 26th January 2007, 12:19

Quote: (Originally Posted by Depth-junkie)

Hey Stevie, your showing your age there M8 shhhh..... i would keep it keep it quite if i were you.

I've seen his cards from way back when, he had hair and everything back then

ATB
Gareth

gaz I still have everything apart from the hair , the money the good looks the chicks , O and the fast car,s

Can still give you young guns a run for your money,

I think

David Heavey · 26th January 2007, 13:42

If you are an existing OC I think that when you get to Nitrox diver you should have done enough dives and have all the in water skills to make the step across to Closed Circuit Rebreather diving without problems.

There is also a case for starting on a Rebreather from day one, no hang ups to lose.

CCR diving is not more difficult than OC diving it's just a little bit different and takes a little different thinking.

In fact CCR diving breaks down to, change the scrubber, check the gas, check for leaks, breath it a bit, jump in, check the PPO2, don't push bad situations. Most of these we do on OC anyway.

What is important is the quality of Instructor you choose and with a good one anyone can do CCR diving, it's not rocket science.

David

jo_c · 26th January 2007, 14:34

Quote: (Originally Posted by David Heavey)

If you are an existing OC I think that when you get to Nitrox diver you should have done enough dives and have all the in water skills to make the step across to Closed Circuit Rebreather diving without problems.

David

I have to agree as I went CCR after 30 dives (Nitrox diver)

**PhilSiswick** · 26th January 2007, 14:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by David Heavey)

If you are an existing OC I think that when you get to Nitrox diver you should have done enough dives and have all the in water skills to make the step across to Closed Circuit Rebreather diving without problems.

There is also a case for starting on a Rebreather from day one, no hang ups to lose.

CCR diving is not more difficult than OC diving it's just a little bit different and takes a little different thinking.

In fact CCR diving breaks down to, change the scrubber, check the gas, check for leaks, breath it a bit, jump in, check the PPO2, don't push bad situations. Most of these we do on OC anyway.

What is important is the quality of Instructor you choose and with a good one anyone can do CCR diving, it's not rocket science.

David

Having only had 210 or so dives when I went for Mod 1, I had to seriously consider whether I had enough experience. My conclusion, based on a lot of reading and talking to people was that, especially if you look at the deaths and serious incidents on CCR, you're better off switching early in your diving career.

Many of the issues and deaths seem to have been caused or contributed to by experienced OC tech divers rushing to do the same dives on CCR as they did on OC, as well as very experienced CCR divers becoming complacent.

I came to the conclusion that earlier is better. Might be flawed, but it seems to have gone OK.

Cheers,

**fireman** · 26th January 2007, 15:27

I had only reg. nitrox. Actually I have no Rebreather dives yet, but will shortly. I will not get any formal training until forced to eg to dive off someones boat. Sorry this horse has been beaten before, but...I was furious at the cost and vacuousness of the classes that I've taken, I will only take more when forced to.

Gobfish1 · 26th January 2007, 16:47

Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick)

Having only had 210 or so dives when I went for Mod 1, I had to seriously consider whether I had enough experience. My conclusion, based on a lot of reading and talking to people was that, especially if you look at the deaths and serious incidencts on CCR, you're better of switching early in your diving career.

Many of the issues and deaths seem to have been caused or contributed to by experienced OC tech divers rushing to do the same dives on CCR as they did on OC, as well as very experienced CCR divers becoming complacent.

Cheers,

Can see your point,
Having been diving deep on air and trimix for a number of years ,
It has been hard for me not to dive to deep on my Ybod till I have more time on it ,

needs must, and I need to dive new wrecks and new depths so I will continue to
Extend my depth and deco times on the box , and hopefully I will learn what I need to stay alive,
I wont say what depth i have been diving to, its not relevant,
Lets just say, I’m happy with my progress,

Kostas · 27th January 2007, 04:22

O/W Instructor and Trimix Diver. I am now going for my CCR Underwater Basket Weaving Cert.

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Trimix Diver	47	18.01%
Advanced Trimix Diver	65	24.90%
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26th January 2007, 11:42	#21 (permalink)
lizardland Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North... Posts: 1,387	Re: Highest Previous Certification Before CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by Gobfish1) Hi lizard land Did my trimix in 94 , and YES Iantd was the only flavour, only 3 instructors in the uk Soon to be only 2 , Did you go to the USA and do your TM course with the man, or did you do you course in the uk too Ps Did you do deep air first , the blue card , Not seen you at dotty for some time now , have you moved back up to the lizard land , I mean Scotland, the good old days A 5 nines 02 at £5 per j cylinder 5 nines he at 52 per j cylinder And only £4 a pickup charge, it was mix it your self or do with out , That reminds me , I must get a blending ticket , I think it was 95, I did it with a Scottish instructor, theory upstairs of DiMaggio's pizzeria in Glasgow, diving off the coast of Stavanger I was going to do it with John Orlowski in Florida at the same time as my cave cert but decided to do it at home and save some money. My instructor wouldn't teach Deep Air even back then so did Tech EAN instead which was the same course really. Ahhh... cheap gas... £35 for a 300bar J bottle of helium from Dominion in Aberdeen... happy days!!! I was at Dorothea on Sunday, I had some lime with an hour left on it and I don't like wasting it. A balmy 2degC when I downloaded my computer afterwards. I'm moving to Aberdeen later in the year, house went on the market yesterday, I should really clean up the piles of spilled lime in the garden. Cheers, Stuart __________________ Can you imagine drifting along in the sea with your mouth open and a load of f***ing plankton going in? You'd like it, would you? www.westons-cider.co.uk Azerbaijani Association of Technical Divers Publicity Officer and Goat Wrangler
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26th January 2007, 11:54	#22 (permalink)
Depth-junkie 10/52 Psycho Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wrexham Posts: 298	Re: Highest Previous Certification Before CCR Quote: Hi lizard land Did my trimix in 94 , and YES Iantd was the only flavour, only 3 instructors in the uk Soon to be only 2 , Did you go to the USA and do your TM course with the man, or did you do you course in the uk too Ps Did you do deep air first , the blue card , Not seen you at dotty for some time now , have you moved back up to the lizard land , I mean Scotland, the good old days A 5 nines 02 at £5 per j cylinder 5 nines he at 52 per j cylinder And only £4 a pickup charge, it was mix it your self or do with out , That reminds me , I must get a blending ticket , __________________ Steve G Hey Stevie, your showing your age there M8 shhhh..... i would keep it keep it quite if i were you. I've seen his cards from way back when, he had hair and everything back then ATB Gareth
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26th January 2007, 12:08	#23 (permalink)
Gobfish1 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 398	Re: Highest Previous Certification Before CCR You’re a better man than me I should have been at dotty my self but I was to soft and stayed in bed , out of the weather. Good luck with the move Stuart , __________________ Steve G Apparently not the only gay diver in the village http://drinkingliberally.org/blogs/o...nzee-glock.gif http://www.scubatunes.com/audio/vol01/mp3/HiTech.mp3
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26th January 2007, 12:19	#24 (permalink)
Gobfish1 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 398	Re: Highest Previous Certification Before CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by Depth-junkie) Hey Stevie, your showing your age there M8 shhhh..... i would keep it keep it quite if i were you. I've seen his cards from way back when, he had hair and everything back then ATB Gareth gaz I still have everything apart from the hair , the money the good looks the chicks , O and the fast car,s Can still give you young guns a run for your money, I think __________________ Steve G Apparently not the only gay diver in the village http://drinkingliberally.org/blogs/o...nzee-glock.gif http://www.scubatunes.com/audio/vol01/mp3/HiTech.mp3
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26th January 2007, 13:42	#25 (permalink)
David Heavey New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: UK, Worcester Posts: 18	Re: Highest Previous Certification Before CCR If you are an existing OC I think that when you get to Nitrox diver you should have done enough dives and have all the in water skills to make the step across to Closed Circuit Rebreather diving without problems. There is also a case for starting on a Rebreather from day one, no hang ups to lose. CCR diving is not more difficult than OC diving it's just a little bit different and takes a little different thinking. In fact CCR diving breaks down to, change the scrubber, check the gas, check for leaks, breath it a bit, jump in, check the PPO2, don't push bad situations. Most of these we do on OC anyway. What is important is the quality of Instructor you choose and with a good one anyone can do CCR diving, it's not rocket science. David
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26th January 2007, 14:34	#26 (permalink)
jo_c RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hants, UK Posts: 170	Re: Highest Previous Certification Before CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by David Heavey) If you are an existing OC I think that when you get to Nitrox diver you should have done enough dives and have all the in water skills to make the step across to Closed Circuit Rebreather diving without problems. David I have to agree as I went CCR after 30 dives (Nitrox diver)
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26th January 2007, 14:45	#27 (permalink)
PhilSiswick Phil Siswick, Tango Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 1,095	Re: Highest Previous Certification Before CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by David Heavey) If you are an existing OC I think that when you get to Nitrox diver you should have done enough dives and have all the in water skills to make the step across to Closed Circuit Rebreather diving without problems. There is also a case for starting on a Rebreather from day one, no hang ups to lose. CCR diving is not more difficult than OC diving it's just a little bit different and takes a little different thinking. In fact CCR diving breaks down to, change the scrubber, check the gas, check for leaks, breath it a bit, jump in, check the PPO2, don't push bad situations. Most of these we do on OC anyway. What is important is the quality of Instructor you choose and with a good one anyone can do CCR diving, it's not rocket science. David Having only had 210 or so dives when I went for Mod 1, I had to seriously consider whether I had enough experience. My conclusion, based on a lot of reading and talking to people was that, especially if you look at the deaths and serious incidents on CCR, you're better off switching early in your diving career. Many of the issues and deaths seem to have been caused or contributed to by experienced OC tech divers rushing to do the same dives on CCR as they did on OC, as well as very experienced CCR divers becoming complacent. I came to the conclusion that earlier is better. Might be flawed, but it seems to have gone OK. Cheers, __________________ Phil (WSKD 0001) I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 The person who gets the farthest is generally the one who is willing to do and dare. The sure thing boat never gets far from shore. Charles A. Lindbergh www.hugsac.org.uk Last edited by PhilSiswick : 26th January 2007 at 17:47.
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26th January 2007, 15:27	#28 (permalink)
fireman rEvo combat swimmer Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: chicago Posts: 549	Re: Highest Previous Certification Before CCR I had only reg. nitrox. Actually I have no Rebreather dives yet, but will shortly. I will not get any formal training until forced to eg to dive off someones boat. Sorry this horse has been beaten before, but...I was furious at the cost and vacuousness of the classes that I've taken, I will only take more when forced to.
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26th January 2007, 16:47	#29 (permalink)
Gobfish1 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Manchester UK Posts: 398	Re: Highest Previous Certification Before CCR Quote: (Originally Posted by PhilSiswick) Having only had 210 or so dives when I went for Mod 1, I had to seriously consider whether I had enough experience. My conclusion, based on a lot of reading and talking to people was that, especially if you look at the deaths and serious incidencts on CCR, you're better of switching early in your diving career. Many of the issues and deaths seem to have been caused or contributed to by experienced OC tech divers rushing to do the same dives on CCR as they did on OC, as well as very experienced CCR divers becoming complacent. Cheers, Can see your point, Having been diving deep on air and trimix for a number of years , It has been hard for me not to dive to deep on my Ybod till I have more time on it , needs must, and I need to dive new wrecks and new depths so I will continue to Extend my depth and deco times on the box , and hopefully I will learn what I need to stay alive, I wont say what depth i have been diving to, its not relevant, Lets just say, I’m happy with my progress, __________________ Steve G Apparently not the only gay diver in the village http://drinkingliberally.org/blogs/o...nzee-glock.gif http://www.scubatunes.com/audio/vol01/mp3/HiTech.mp3 Last edited by Gobfish1 : 26th January 2007 at 16:50.
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27th January 2007, 04:22	#30 (permalink)
Kostas New Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sutton,Ontario Posts: 20	Re: Highest Previous Certification Before CCR O/W Instructor and Trimix Diver. I am now going for my CCR Underwater Basket Weaving Cert.
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