pre-training for a Boris

bathtub · 24th November 2006, 12:47

I am looking to get trained up and go for a Boris in hopefully 6 months or so time. I am clear on how to get trained up and purchase the unit, my question is what is best in the run up (besides dive, dive and dive)

In the meantime I am diving O/C and a dolphin, but I am keen to tailor my diving and skillset to the most applicable for when I go for the boris.

Currently I am only advanced nitrox and deco procedures trained and dived, so I am assuming that the best wil be to get the trimix training done, and, as thought before, dive, dive and dive some more.

I would be very intrested in getting the opinions and feedback (be as direct as you like guys) from the guys on this group- more on training than choice of unit.

Looking forward to it..
Roy

***schford*** · 24th November 2006, 12:59

IMHO wait until you have your Boris and time on it before spending money on doing a trimix course.

In the meantime read, read and read so you understand closed cicuit theory inside out!

Mark Chase · 24th November 2006, 13:15

Quote: (Originally Posted by bathtub)

I am looking to get trained up and go for a Boris in hopefully 6 months or so time. I am clear on how to get trained up and purchase the unit, my question is what is best in the run up (besides dive, dive and dive)

Roy

I am assuming you on OC at the moment?

Stick a 4kg tail weight on the arse of your twin set to get used to the trim characteristics and make a hole in the diaphragm of your second stage to get used to breathing water.

Then take a course in advanced negotiation of excess baggage charges

Sorry, ill stop taking the piss now

I am only jealous coz i cant afford one and a second smaller unit to travel with

The only thing you can do is get the manual and read it thoroughly several times. Then do a search on the Boris on here and read up on all the issues / problems with the unit in actual use.

Finally produce a list of questions for your instructor based on this research. Make sure you cover things like cell failures current limiting etc.

Hope it goes well.

ATB

Mark Chase

bathtub · 24th November 2006, 13:20

I'm Oc and SCR (dolphin).. I know enough to know I know F**K ALL- and that's about it really.....

seem to spend my life avoiding work and reading up on the unit currently !

***Decodiver*** · 24th November 2006, 16:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by bathtub)

I am looking to get trained up and go for a Boris in hopefully 6 months or so time. I am clear on how to get trained up and purchase the unit, my question is what is best in the run up (besides dive, dive and dive)

In the meantime I am diving O/C and a dolphin, but I am keen to tailor my diving and skillset to the most applicable for when I go for the boris.

Currently I am only advanced nitrox and deco procedures trained and dived, so I am assuming that the best wil be to get the trimix training done, and, as thought before, dive, dive and dive some more.

I would be very intrested in getting the opinions and feedback (be as direct as you like guys) from the guys on this group- more on training than choice of unit.

Looking forward to it..
Roy

Hi Roy,

I am based in France but teach CCR in Geneva and am booked to do my Boris instructor course in January with Phill Short.

I am in Geneva teaching a Meg course next weekend and if it is not too far to travel why not come down and have a look at our Boris' and bring your Dolphin and come for a dive with us.

If you cannot make it, don't worry as I am often there and we would be more than happy to talk through the preparation for your training with you.

First thing you need to know is how to use a VR3 that will help a lot.

Feel free to PM me or drop me an email if you think I can help.

All questions welcome!

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

CCR900 · 24th November 2006, 17:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver)

Hi Roy,

I am based in France but teach CCR in Geneva and am booked to do my Boris instructor course in January with Phill Short.

I am in Geneva teaching a Meg course next weekend and if it is not too far to travel why not come down and have a look at our Boris' and bring your Dolphin and come for a dive with us.

If you cannot make it, don't worry as I am often there and we would be more than happy to talk through the preparation for your training with you.

First thing you need to know is how to use a VR3 that will help a lot.

Feel free to PM me or drop me an email if you think I can help.

All questions welcome!

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

This is the sort of reply that makes this web site so damn good!!!!!

F

Moray Brown · 24th November 2006, 18:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900)

This is the sort of reply that makes this web site so damn good!!!!!

F

2nd that.. best response i've seen for a long time

bathtub · 24th November 2006, 18:41

This site is easily one of the friendliest I know. As a none german speaker in Switz I was finding it hard to penetrate the diving community for the type of diving I like. Having found this I looked someone up on the map facility, had an email back 5 mins later, and was diving later that week ! FANTASTIC !!!

Dave- fantastic offers- thankyou.. I am unfortunately away next weekend (romantic weekend, so I can Justify 2 more weeks in Hurghada this year)- however I would be most keen to meet up and drool at your toys... please keep me in the loop when you are there next, lunch will be on me! (and hell there are some good restraunts in geneva!)
I know my way round the VR3 a bit now, so not too many worries there...
One more thing- where do you get your kitty litter from- france?

Guys ! thanks! really appreciate this- Dave, utmost respect !
Roy

iani · 24th November 2006, 20:06

Bathtub,

Without knowing how your current rig is set up, when diving boris you will use offboard gas for suit & wing, you could decide how to set this up now. You will also need to carry offboard gas for bailout, you could practice carrying a side slung stage with a bungied 2nd stage around your neck, this could also feed the suit/wing but watch the hose routing. I run an argon bottle connected by 2 x double-enders to the LH side of my backplate, this feeds suit & wing, works for me but YMMV.

Enjoy!

Ian

bathtub · 24th November 2006, 20:09

very useful idea.. thanks Iani- I will look at setting that up in the meantime, and getting used to it. Downside- nothing- learn a new config, upside, get used to soft side of new rig earlier.
Appreciated !
Roy

24th November 2006, 12:47	#1 (permalink)
bathtub What bubbles? - DOH ! Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Switzerland, Zug Posts: 35	pre-training for a Boris I am looking to get trained up and go for a Boris in hopefully 6 months or so time. I am clear on how to get trained up and purchase the unit, my question is what is best in the run up (besides dive, dive and dive) In the meantime I am diving O/C and a dolphin, but I am keen to tailor my diving and skillset to the most applicable for when I go for the boris. Currently I am only advanced nitrox and deco procedures trained and dived, so I am assuming that the best wil be to get the trimix training done, and, as thought before, dive, dive and dive some more. I would be very intrested in getting the opinions and feedback (be as direct as you like guys) from the guys on this group- more on training than choice of unit. Looking forward to it.. Roy
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24th November 2006, 12:59	#2 (permalink)
*schford* RBW Founder Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Re: pre-training for a Boris IMHO wait until you have your Boris and time on it before spending money on doing a trimix course. In the meantime read, read and read so you understand closed cicuit theory inside out! __________________ Bailout and Kit Management account for Murphy's Law The only bad question is one you did not ask and later wish you had. Use of RBW is subject to the Rebreather World Terms & Conditions of Use
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24th November 2006, 13:15	#3 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,857	Re: pre-training for a Boris Quote: (Originally Posted by bathtub) I am looking to get trained up and go for a Boris in hopefully 6 months or so time. I am clear on how to get trained up and purchase the unit, my question is what is best in the run up (besides dive, dive and dive) Roy I am assuming you on OC at the moment? Stick a 4kg tail weight on the arse of your twin set to get used to the trim characteristics and make a hole in the diaphragm of your second stage to get used to breathing water. Then take a course in advanced negotiation of excess baggage charges Sorry, ill stop taking the piss now I am only jealous coz i cant afford one and a second smaller unit to travel with The only thing you can do is get the manual and read it thoroughly several times. Then do a search on the Boris on here and read up on all the issues / problems with the unit in actual use. Finally produce a list of questions for your instructor based on this research. Make sure you cover things like cell failures current limiting etc. Hope it goes well. ATB Mark Chase __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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24th November 2006, 13:20	#4 (permalink)
bathtub What bubbles? - DOH ! Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Switzerland, Zug Posts: 35	Re: pre-training for a Boris I'm Oc and SCR (dolphin).. I know enough to know I know F**K ALL- and that's about it really..... seem to spend my life avoiding work and reading up on the unit currently !
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24th November 2006, 16:43	#5 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,194	Re: pre-training for a Boris Quote: (Originally Posted by bathtub) I am looking to get trained up and go for a Boris in hopefully 6 months or so time. I am clear on how to get trained up and purchase the unit, my question is what is best in the run up (besides dive, dive and dive) In the meantime I am diving O/C and a dolphin, but I am keen to tailor my diving and skillset to the most applicable for when I go for the boris. Currently I am only advanced nitrox and deco procedures trained and dived, so I am assuming that the best wil be to get the trimix training done, and, as thought before, dive, dive and dive some more. I would be very intrested in getting the opinions and feedback (be as direct as you like guys) from the guys on this group- more on training than choice of unit. Looking forward to it.. Roy Hi Roy, I am based in France but teach CCR in Geneva and am booked to do my Boris instructor course in January with Phill Short. I am in Geneva teaching a Meg course next weekend and if it is not too far to travel why not come down and have a look at our Boris' and bring your Dolphin and come for a dive with us. If you cannot make it, don't worry as I am often there and we would be more than happy to talk through the preparation for your training with you. First thing you need to know is how to use a VR3 that will help a lot. Feel free to PM me or drop me an email if you think I can help. All questions welcome! Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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24th November 2006, 17:09	#6 (permalink)
CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 333	Re: pre-training for a Boris Quote: (Originally Posted by Decodiver) Hi Roy, I am based in France but teach CCR in Geneva and am booked to do my Boris instructor course in January with Phill Short. I am in Geneva teaching a Meg course next weekend and if it is not too far to travel why not come down and have a look at our Boris' and bring your Dolphin and come for a dive with us. If you cannot make it, don't worry as I am often there and we would be more than happy to talk through the preparation for your training with you. First thing you need to know is how to use a VR3 that will help a lot. Feel free to PM me or drop me an email if you think I can help. All questions welcome! Cheers, Dave Cooper. This is the sort of reply that makes this web site so damn good!!!!! F
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24th November 2006, 18:10	#7 (permalink)
Moray Brown CCR Training - MR Diving Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WMUK Posts: 261	Re: pre-training for a Boris Quote: (Originally Posted by CCR900) This is the sort of reply that makes this web site so damn good!!!!! F 2nd that.. best response i've seen for a long time
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24th November 2006, 18:41	#8 (permalink)
bathtub What bubbles? - DOH ! Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Switzerland, Zug Posts: 35	Re: pre-training for a Boris This site is easily one of the friendliest I know. As a none german speaker in Switz I was finding it hard to penetrate the diving community for the type of diving I like. Having found this I looked someone up on the map facility, had an email back 5 mins later, and was diving later that week ! FANTASTIC !!! Dave- fantastic offers- thankyou.. I am unfortunately away next weekend (romantic weekend, so I can Justify 2 more weeks in Hurghada this year)- however I would be most keen to meet up and drool at your toys... please keep me in the loop when you are there next, lunch will be on me! (and hell there are some good restraunts in geneva!) I know my way round the VR3 a bit now, so not too many worries there... One more thing- where do you get your kitty litter from- france? Guys ! thanks! really appreciate this- Dave, utmost respect ! Roy
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24th November 2006, 20:06	#9 (permalink)
iani Nefarious Activist Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Middlesex, UK Posts: 334	Re: pre-training for a Boris Bathtub, Without knowing how your current rig is set up, when diving boris you will use offboard gas for suit & wing, you could decide how to set this up now. You will also need to carry offboard gas for bailout, you could practice carrying a side slung stage with a bungied 2nd stage around your neck, this could also feed the suit/wing but watch the hose routing. I run an argon bottle connected by 2 x double-enders to the LH side of my backplate, this feeds suit & wing, works for me but YMMV. Enjoy! Ian
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24th November 2006, 20:09	#10 (permalink)
bathtub What bubbles? - DOH ! Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Switzerland, Zug Posts: 35	Re: pre-training for a Boris very useful idea.. thanks Iani- I will look at setting that up in the meantime, and getting used to it. Downside- nothing- learn a new config, upside, get used to soft side of new rig earlier. Appreciated ! Roy
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