ANDI Level 5 (Trimix)

***Beanie*** · 27th April 2005, 22:00

Well a short post to say that I along with Paul B and Lisa are mid an ANDI Level 5 course (mod 3 equivelent), so far we've managed to do the theory. The weather in Cornwall last week seriously being against us

.

The material is still under development but looks pretty good a few translational errors from US to UK

but all good stuff. The interesting thig was that the presentation was combined OC and CCR whihc was handy as we had our OC mate on the course doing ERD / TX (we converted him to the yellow side). There is still no manual but it is supposed to be coming soon whihc is good.

We shall be back in mid June to do the dives and hopefully get it done. in the mean time we have plenty of time to practice all our skills.

decoweenie · 27th April 2005, 22:08

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

...ANDI Level 5 course (mod 3 equivelent)...

Pardon my ignorance, but what does that mean in layman's term ?

Mod 1 is beginning course, air diluent.
Mod 2 is trimix (?)
Mod 3 is ?

TIA

***Beanie*** · 27th April 2005, 22:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Pardon my ignorance, but what does that mean in layman's term ?

Mod 1 is beginning course, air diluent.
Mod 2 is trimix (?)
Mod 3 is ?

TIA

good point
basically I think
mod1 - air no deco (well 5mins at 6m)
mod2 - air deco
mod3 - trimix deco

I beleive ANDI
goes
Level 1 - Intro to Rebreathers
Level 2 - Air dil no deco
Level 3 - Air dil deco
Level 5 - Trimix Deco

Someone feel free to step in
basically I'm doing trimix for the box

Paul B · 27th April 2005, 22:21

Very brief & Snipped from ANDI website

http://www.andihq.com/pages/levels.html

Don't make much sense to me either I'm only doing the course!

Level 1 - introductory program for new divers or divers-in-training.

Level 2 - advanced recreational.

Level 3 - technical diving.

Level 4 - exploration

Level 5 - exploration that involve the use of other inert gases.

***EBT*** · 27th April 2005, 23:08

MOD1 = Air Dil, 40mish no deco
MOD2 = Normox trimix, deco limited
MOD3 = Full trimix, unlimited deco. The reality is MOD3 is a "how to survive everything going tits up" course.

From memory... not from standards.

***schford*** · 27th April 2005, 23:21

Zaks explanations gets my vote!

***jradomski*** · 28th April 2005, 00:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Pardon my ignorance, but what does that mean in layman's term ?

Mod 1 is beginning course, air diluent.
Mod 2 is trimix (?)
Mod 3 is ?

TIA

andi lev 2 ~ simliar to IANTD mod1 - 40m no deco
ANDI level 3 - 50m air dil 30 minutes max deco.. This class really drills you
ANDI level 5 - full trimix no limits...
(there is no ANDI l5 cCR class - l4 is ext range for OC)

***jradomski*** · 28th April 2005, 00:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie)

Well a short post to say that I along with Paul B and Lisa are mid an ANDI Level 5 course (mod 3 equivelent), so far we've managed to do the theory. The weather in Cornwall last week seriously being against us

.

The material is still under development but looks pretty good a few translational errors from US to UK

but all good stuff. The interesting thig was that the presentation was combined OC and CCR whihc was handy as we had our OC mate on the course doing ERD / TX (we converted him to the yellow side). There is still no manual but it is supposed to be coming soon whihc is good.

We shall be back in mid June to do the dives and hopefully get it done. in the mean time we have plenty of time to practice all our skills.

Sounds like My L3 powerpoint.. for L5 stuff only a few extra topics have to be introduced.. I am wondering if Gary is using it (its not officially released yet either)

Was there a big section on disenfectants and why not to use buddy clean?

The "manual" sort of exists.. I wrote most of it 2 years ago.. It needs polishing for general release.. The instructors are required to know all the material in it and teach it.. I have been busy with other stuff so it keeps getting put on hold.. Right now the KISS program is holding it up..

The exam is challenging (I have been told by those who have taken it - Non ANDI trained) and covers topics generally not taught by the other agencies.. I still have work to do on the exam... I think its still too easy

Any questions feel free to PM me..

***Beanie*** · 28th April 2005, 09:20

Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski)

Sounds like My L3 powerpoint.. for L5 stuff only a few extra topics have to be introduced.. I am wondering if Gary is using it (its not officially released yet either)

Was there a big section on disenfectants and why not to use buddy clean?

The "manual" sort of exists.. I wrote most of it 2 years ago.. It needs polishing for general release.. The instructors are required to know all the material in it and teach it.. I have been busy with other stuff so it keeps getting put on hold.. Right now the KISS program is holding it up..

The exam is challenging (I have been told by those who have taken it - Non ANDI trained) and covers topics generally not taught by the other agencies.. I still have work to do on the exam... I think its still too easy

Any questions feel free to PM me..

yep thats the one
nice long bit on disenfectants

27th April 2005, 22:00	#1 (permalink)
*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,311	ANDI Level 5 (Trimix) Well a short post to say that I along with Paul B and Lisa are mid an ANDI Level 5 course (mod 3 equivelent), so far we've managed to do the theory. The weather in Cornwall last week seriously being against us . The material is still under development but looks pretty good a few translational errors from US to UK but all good stuff. The interesting thig was that the presentation was combined OC and CCR whihc was handy as we had our OC mate on the course doing ERD / TX (we converted him to the yellow side). There is still no manual but it is supposed to be coming soon whihc is good. We shall be back in mid June to do the dives and hopefully get it done. in the mean time we have plenty of time to practice all our skills. __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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27th April 2005, 22:08	#2 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) ...ANDI Level 5 course (mod 3 equivelent)... Pardon my ignorance, but what does that mean in layman's term ? Mod 1 is beginning course, air diluent. Mod 2 is trimix (?) Mod 3 is ? TIA
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27th April 2005, 22:17	#3 (permalink)
*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,311	Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Pardon my ignorance, but what does that mean in layman's term ? Mod 1 is beginning course, air diluent. Mod 2 is trimix (?) Mod 3 is ? TIA good point basically I think mod1 - air no deco (well 5mins at 6m) mod2 - air deco mod3 - trimix deco I beleive ANDI goes Level 1 - Intro to Rebreathers Level 2 - Air dil no deco Level 3 - Air dil deco Level 5 - Trimix Deco Someone feel free to step in basically I'm doing trimix for the box __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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27th April 2005, 22:21	#4 (permalink)
Paul B New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 35	Very brief & Snipped from ANDI website http://www.andihq.com/pages/levels.html Don't make much sense to me either I'm only doing the course! Level 1 - introductory program for new divers or divers-in-training. Level 2 - advanced recreational. Level 3 - technical diving. Level 4 - exploration Level 5 - exploration that involve the use of other inert gases. __________________ Paul B “’Rules: are for the guidance of the wise, & the adherence of fools!’ OUTLAWd
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27th April 2005, 23:08	#5 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 2,109	MOD1 = Air Dil, 40mish no deco MOD2 = Normox trimix, deco limited MOD3 = Full trimix, unlimited deco. The reality is MOD3 is a "how to survive everything going tits up" course. From memory... not from standards. __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! RBW Terms of service
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27th April 2005, 23:21	#6 (permalink)
*schford* RBW Founder Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Zaks explanations gets my vote!
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28th April 2005, 00:25	#7 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,113	Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Pardon my ignorance, but what does that mean in layman's term ? Mod 1 is beginning course, air diluent. Mod 2 is trimix (?) Mod 3 is ? TIA andi lev 2 ~ simliar to IANTD mod1 - 40m no deco ANDI level 3 - 50m air dil 30 minutes max deco.. This class really drills you ANDI level 5 - full trimix no limits... (there is no ANDI l5 cCR class - l4 is ext range for OC) __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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28th April 2005, 00:32	#8 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,113	Quote: (Originally Posted by Beanie) Well a short post to say that I along with Paul B and Lisa are mid an ANDI Level 5 course (mod 3 equivelent), so far we've managed to do the theory. The weather in Cornwall last week seriously being against us . The material is still under development but looks pretty good a few translational errors from US to UK but all good stuff. The interesting thig was that the presentation was combined OC and CCR whihc was handy as we had our OC mate on the course doing ERD / TX (we converted him to the yellow side). There is still no manual but it is supposed to be coming soon whihc is good. We shall be back in mid June to do the dives and hopefully get it done. in the mean time we have plenty of time to practice all our skills. Sounds like My L3 powerpoint.. for L5 stuff only a few extra topics have to be introduced.. I am wondering if Gary is using it (its not officially released yet either) Was there a big section on disenfectants and why not to use buddy clean? The "manual" sort of exists.. I wrote most of it 2 years ago.. It needs polishing for general release.. The instructors are required to know all the material in it and teach it.. I have been busy with other stuff so it keeps getting put on hold.. Right now the KISS program is holding it up.. The exam is challenging (I have been told by those who have taken it - Non ANDI trained) and covers topics generally not taught by the other agencies.. I still have work to do on the exam... I think its still too easy Any questions feel free to PM me.. __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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28th April 2005, 09:20	#9 (permalink)
*Beanie* Gallery Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,311	Quote: (Originally Posted by jradomski) Sounds like My L3 powerpoint.. for L5 stuff only a few extra topics have to be introduced.. I am wondering if Gary is using it (its not officially released yet either) Was there a big section on disenfectants and why not to use buddy clean? The "manual" sort of exists.. I wrote most of it 2 years ago.. It needs polishing for general release.. The instructors are required to know all the material in it and teach it.. I have been busy with other stuff so it keeps getting put on hold.. Right now the KISS program is holding it up.. The exam is challenging (I have been told by those who have taken it - Non ANDI trained) and covers topics generally not taught by the other agencies.. I still have work to do on the exam... I think its still too easy Any questions feel free to PM me.. yep thats the one nice long bit on disenfectants __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk
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