Which tank connects to ADV?

wizbang · 10th January 2006, 20:14

Zeagle do one as well.
Has anyone noticed that an APD one for the ADV won't fit on normal reg hoses.?

MAD · 10th January 2006, 20:25

Having had a freeflowing ADV, I can honestly say I would have an ADV without a shutoff...

Happened 50 minutes into a dive on a wreck, too me a few seconds to notice that I was pointing my Zepp down wards whilst scooting along just to keep me level!!!!... without the shutoff it would have been an end to the dive... or lots of fiddling with the valave and the dump... not pretty

Never thought of it as a trombone though... wonder if I can get a note out of it...

Mark

decoweenie · 11th January 2006, 05:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by wizbang)

Zeagle do one as well.

Zeagle was the Apeks distributor in the US, so I believe it is the same version as Apeks.

decoweenie · 11th January 2006, 05:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by MAD)

... without the shutoff it would have been an end to the dive... or lots of fiddling with the valave and the dump... not pretty

I think I understand what you are saying...

However, IMHO, in such emergency I know I could shut down the diluent tank valve faster than trying to find the APV shut-off valve.

The reason is the APV version is slim and same diameter as the rest of the hose/parts -- unlike the M&J/Apeks version which has an "inflated" curve. So with thick gloves on, it is more difficult to find where the APV sliding trombone section of the valve quickly.

Of course, after the shut-down, it is more convenient (but not life critical) to have the ADV isolated and not the rest of the gears connected to the diluent tank (i.e. BOV, wing/suit inflation).

GoProHonduras · 16th January 2006, 04:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

I think I understand what you are saying...

However, IMHO, in such emergency I know I could shut down the diluent tank valve faster than trying to find the APV shut-off valve.

The reason is the APV version is slim and same diameter as the rest of the hose/parts -- unlike the M&J/Apeks version which has an "inflated" curve. So with thick gloves on, it is more difficult to find where the APV sliding trombone section of the valve quickly.

Of course, after the shut-down, it is more convenient (but not life critical) to have the ADV isolated and not the rest of the gears connected to the diluent tank (i.e. BOV, wing/suit inflation).

How can I buy a M&J valve?

Is there a website?

Regards,
Andy

decoweenie · 16th January 2006, 05:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by GoProHonduras)

How can I buy a M&J valve?

Oxycheq sells them.

01RMB · 16th January 2006, 05:43

Have a look at M&J Engineering - http://www.mj-engineering.com/shop/index.php

Model: IV-1000-1 - $39.99

Model: IV-1000-2 - $39.99

I have the slim version on my Evo and it is very good. I find it more positive in sliding it on/off then the APD version.

decoweenie · 16th January 2006, 05:50

Thanks, I didn't know M&J makes a slim version.

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MAD Rebreather World Writer Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Northampton Posts: 71	Re: Which tank connects to ADV? Having had a freeflowing ADV, I can honestly say I would have an ADV without a shutoff... Happened 50 minutes into a dive on a wreck, too me a few seconds to notice that I was pointing my Zepp down wards whilst scooting along just to keep me level!!!!... without the shutoff it would have been an end to the dive... or lots of fiddling with the valave and the dump... not pretty Never thought of it as a trombone though... wonder if I can get a note out of it... Mark __________________ 1007 dives and finally I'm a novice... www.divejunkie.com
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decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Which tank connects to ADV? Quote: (Originally Posted by MAD) ... without the shutoff it would have been an end to the dive... or lots of fiddling with the valave and the dump... not pretty I think I understand what you are saying... However, IMHO, in such emergency I know I could shut down the diluent tank valve faster than trying to find the APV shut-off valve. The reason is the APV version is slim and same diameter as the rest of the hose/parts -- unlike the M&J/Apeks version which has an "inflated" curve. So with thick gloves on, it is more difficult to find where the APV sliding trombone section of the valve quickly. Of course, after the shut-down, it is more convenient (but not life critical) to have the ADV isolated and not the rest of the gears connected to the diluent tank (i.e. BOV, wing/suit inflation). __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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GoProHonduras Down in Honduras Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Utila, Bay Islands Posts: 19	Re: Which tank connects to ADV? Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) I think I understand what you are saying... However, IMHO, in such emergency I know I could shut down the diluent tank valve faster than trying to find the APV shut-off valve. The reason is the APV version is slim and same diameter as the rest of the hose/parts -- unlike the M&J/Apeks version which has an "inflated" curve. So with thick gloves on, it is more difficult to find where the APV sliding trombone section of the valve quickly. Of course, after the shut-down, it is more convenient (but not life critical) to have the ADV isolated and not the rest of the gears connected to the diluent tank (i.e. BOV, wing/suit inflation). How can I buy a M&J valve? Is there a website? Regards, Andy
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01RMB Evolving Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 191	Re: Which tank connects to ADV? Have a look at M&J Engineering - http://www.mj-engineering.com/shop/index.php Model: IV-1000-1 - $39.99 Model: IV-1000-2 - $39.99 I have the slim version on my Evo and it is very good. I find it more positive in sliding it on/off then the APD version. __________________ Cheers Rod
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