Inspiration Modification

leakybreather · 10th January 2008, 09:56

I have just ordered an Inspiration vision for an up coming training course and I intend to add a Golem BOV as soon as possible . Does anyone know if I can add the Golem BOV for the training course or whether the unit has to stay to factory standard during training.

jhaaja · 10th January 2008, 10:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by leakybreather)

I have just ordered an Inspiration vision for an up coming training course and I intend to add a Golem BOV as soon as possible . Does anyone know if I can add the Golem BOV for the training course or whether the unit has to stay to factory standard during training.

I would ask your instructor. I dont see any reason why you could not bolt the BOV straight on and start learning to use it as part of your Rebreather. BOV is a great safety bonus to Rebreather diving.

JH

SteveJ · 10th January 2008, 10:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by leakybreather)

I have just ordered an Inspiration vision for an up coming training course and I intend to add a Golem BOV as soon as possible . Does anyone know if I can add the Golem BOV for the training course or whether the unit has to stay to factory standard during training.

Is the APD BOV still not yet available? It would solve the potential problem of a non standard unit on the course.

Steve

Ben Field · 10th January 2008, 10:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by SteveJ)

Is the APD BOV still not yet available? It would solve the potential problem of a non standard unit on the course

IIRC From the October Dive show Martin said they where aiming for Q2 2008

stuey · 10th January 2008, 11:02

I done my course with the unit in standard configuration and never had any probs. The first thing I done to the unit after I passed was put a Golem BOV on and a standard BCD inflator.
I would just do the Mod 1 with the standard unit if I were you and then change it after certification.
I hope you have loads of spare cash, because once you start you can't stop, It'll be one thing after another.

Mark Chase · 10th January 2008, 11:33

I did as above but i dont see a problem doing the course one on one with a BOV. It might me more of an issue if theres a few students as you bailout will be diferent.

My unit had the auto air replaced with a necklaced reg fro the Mod 1 course.

ATB

Mark

**PhilSiswick** · 10th January 2008, 11:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by leakybreather)

I have just ordered an Inspiration vision for an up coming training course and I intend to add a Golem BOV as soon as possible . Does anyone know if I can add the Golem BOV for the training course or whether the unit has to stay to factory standard during training.

Ask your instructor - at the end of the day, it's down to her/him whether she/he allows it (I would think).

Cheers,

decoweenie · 10th January 2008, 19:54

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

...It might me more of an issue if theres a few students as you bailout will be diferent...

Actually, IMHO, it is even better if there are multiple configurations in the class. It will teach you more ways to bail-out, help a buddy with a different configuration to bail-out - similar to the real world.

If the instructor wants to make sure you could bail-out to a stage, he simply asks you to do so even if you have a BOV.

si_b_lanzarote · 10th January 2008, 20:44

my 2 pence worth.....being in the uk i would think you will find it would be an issue if you looked into it...your instructor is in charge of risk assessing everything including your equipment...first question...is it fit for purpose...and this in the UK would come down mainly to C.E. approval, now i know the instructor isnt using it... and his unit is C.E. but in the eyes of the HSE this would be irrelivant, in the event of an accident and it being atributable to the modification then the instructor would be for the high jump as it was down to the instructor to risk assess your kit.

colinicky · 10th January 2008, 20:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by si_b_lanzarote)

my 2 pence worth.....being in the uk i would think you will find it would be an issue if you looked into it...your instructor is in charge of risk assessing everything including your equipment...first question...is it fit for purpose...and this in the UK would come down mainly to C.E. approval, now i know the instructor isnt using it... and his unit is C.E. but in the eyes of the HSE this would be irrelivant, in the event of an accident and it being atributable to the modification then the instructor would be for the high jump as it was down to the instructor to risk assess your kit.

Sorry but would disagree .An instructor in the UK can teach a course for the Kiss which is not CE approved BUT the instructor must use a CE approved unit to teach from .

I did my mod2 & 3 with a Vision in a KT frame fitted with rear mounted counterlungs & a Kiss BOV
This was in the UK

10th January 2008, 09:56	#1 (permalink)
leakybreather New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 36	Inspiration Modification I have just ordered an Inspiration vision for an up coming training course and I intend to add a Golem BOV as soon as possible . Does anyone know if I can add the Golem BOV for the training course or whether the unit has to stay to factory standard during training.
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10th January 2008, 10:02	#2 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 883	Re: Inspiration Modification Quote: (Originally Posted by leakybreather) I have just ordered an Inspiration vision for an up coming training course and I intend to add a Golem BOV as soon as possible . Does anyone know if I can add the Golem BOV for the training course or whether the unit has to stay to factory standard during training. I would ask your instructor. I dont see any reason why you could not bolt the BOV straight on and start learning to use it as part of your Rebreather. BOV is a great safety bonus to Rebreather diving. JH
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10th January 2008, 10:06	#3 (permalink)
SteveJ New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Whitby Posts: 98	Re: Inspiration Modification Quote: (Originally Posted by leakybreather) I have just ordered an Inspiration vision for an up coming training course and I intend to add a Golem BOV as soon as possible . Does anyone know if I can add the Golem BOV for the training course or whether the unit has to stay to factory standard during training. Is the APD BOV still not yet available? It would solve the potential problem of a non standard unit on the course. Steve
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10th January 2008, 10:52	#4 (permalink)
Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,545	Re: Inspiration Modification Quote: (Originally Posted by SteveJ) Is the APD BOV still not yet available? It would solve the potential problem of a non standard unit on the course IIRC From the October Dive show Martin said they where aiming for Q2 2008 __________________ www.hugsac.org.uk Beware Fridge Suck
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10th January 2008, 11:02	#5 (permalink)
stuey New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Thailand Posts: 39	Re: Inspiration Modification I done my course with the unit in standard configuration and never had any probs. The first thing I done to the unit after I passed was put a Golem BOV on and a standard BCD inflator. I would just do the Mod 1 with the standard unit if I were you and then change it after certification. I hope you have loads of spare cash, because once you start you can't stop, It'll be one thing after another.
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10th January 2008, 11:33	#6 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,522	Re: Inspiration Modification I did as above but i dont see a problem doing the course one on one with a BOV. It might me more of an issue if theres a few students as you bailout will be diferent. My unit had the auto air replaced with a necklaced reg fro the Mod 1 course. ATB Mark __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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10th January 2008, 11:38	#7 (permalink)
PhilSiswick WSKD 0001 Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Oxford, UK Posts: 902	Re: Inspiration Modification Quote: (Originally Posted by leakybreather) I have just ordered an Inspiration vision for an up coming training course and I intend to add a Golem BOV as soon as possible . Does anyone know if I can add the Golem BOV for the training course or whether the unit has to stay to factory standard during training. Ask your instructor - at the end of the day, it's down to her/him whether she/he allows it (I would think). Cheers, __________________ Phil No comment on open circuit... it's an evolutionary dead end not really worth discussing here. Dave Sutton, 2007 I have always felt that the dive I am on is not nearly important as the dives I plan to be on the rest of my life. Tom Rose, 2007 www.hugsac.org.uk
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10th January 2008, 19:54	#8 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,510	Re: Inspiration Modification Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) ...It might me more of an issue if theres a few students as you bailout will be diferent... Actually, IMHO, it is even better if there are multiple configurations in the class. It will teach you more ways to bail-out, help a buddy with a different configuration to bail-out - similar to the real world. If the instructor wants to make sure you could bail-out to a stage, he simply asks you to do so even if you have a BOV.
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10th January 2008, 20:44	#9 (permalink)
si_b_lanzarote New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Megalodon Ouroboros Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 75	Re: Inspiration Modification my 2 pence worth.....being in the uk i would think you will find it would be an issue if you looked into it...your instructor is in charge of risk assessing everything including your equipment...first question...is it fit for purpose...and this in the UK would come down mainly to C.E. approval, now i know the instructor isnt using it... and his unit is C.E. but in the eyes of the HSE this would be irrelivant, in the event of an accident and it being atributable to the modification then the instructor would be for the high jump as it was down to the instructor to risk assess your kit. __________________ http://www.thediveshoplanzarote.com Last edited by si_b_lanzarote : 10th January 2008 at 20:54. Reason: typo
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10th January 2008, 20:59	#10 (permalink)
colinicky Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: uk Posts: 665	Re: Inspiration Modification Quote: (Originally Posted by si_b_lanzarote) my 2 pence worth.....being in the uk i would think you will find it would be an issue if you looked into it...your instructor is in charge of risk assessing everything including your equipment...first question...is it fit for purpose...and this in the UK would come down mainly to C.E. approval, now i know the instructor isnt using it... and his unit is C.E. but in the eyes of the HSE this would be irrelivant, in the event of an accident and it being atributable to the modification then the instructor would be for the high jump as it was down to the instructor to risk assess your kit. Sorry but would disagree .An instructor in the UK can teach a course for the Kiss which is not CE approved BUT the instructor must use a CE approved unit to teach from . I did my mod2 & 3 with a Vision in a KT frame fitted with rear mounted counterlungs & a Kiss BOV This was in the UK __________________ Colin I trust my rebreather completely , I just don't trust the user onwards & downwards Last edited by colinicky : 10th January 2008 at 21:04.
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