PSA Professional Scuba Association

decoweenie · 20th September 2005, 07:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by shell-back)

..."DONE IT LONGER"...

Too funny and true in many cases...

Have some green!

dive2dive2000 · 20th September 2005, 15:25

I gave you some too!

Quote: (Originally Posted by shell-back)

I recall Joe O making a comment to the wit of DIL opposed DIR at the TEC conference in 2003 which would clearly state what you get from a PSA course.

If you are wondering "DONE IT LONGER"

The staff at PSA is loaded with a wealth of knowledge and experience.

SEE YA AT DEMA

**Simon TW** · 15th October 2005, 21:28

Someone please correct me if i'm wrong, PSA CCR Have a MOD1 but unlike TDI etc there is no additional course to dive deco. PSA give you a cert to 45 metre where as the other ageny's give 40 metre.

I did the PSA course because my Instructor (who is also an instructor with other ageny's) recommended them.

Mdemon mentioned him Andy heyhurst, DALESDIVERS.

dive2dive2000 · 15th October 2005, 22:43

How did you like your course?

Quote: (Originally Posted by Simon TW)

Someone please correct me if i'm wrong, PSA CCR Have a MOD1 but unlike TDI etc there is no additional course to dive deco. PSA give you a cert to 45 metre where as the other ageny's give 40 metre.

I did the PSA course because my Instructor (who is also an instructor with other ageny's) recommended them.

Mdemon mentioned him Andy heyhurst, DALESDIVERS.

Andy M · 16th October 2005, 04:33

Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000)

The basis of a PSA deep air course is NOT TO GO DEEP AIR DIVING, it is to teach you deep water technical skills and the dangerous and deadly efects of narcosis,

Huh? I found this table on the mrscuba.com site. It seems to indicate that PSA condone deep air to 73m? Thats not what you just wrote. "Narcosis management"? Ha ha, thats a good one.

PSA is the only agency offering Deep Air training down to 73 meters ~ (240 feet) taught in six levels. There are currently only ten instructors world wide qualified to teach to level VI.

Level ~ I 30m (100')
Level ~ II 40m (130')

Level ~ III 46m (150')*

Level ~ IV 55m (180')
Level ~ V 61m (200')

Level ~ VI 73m (240')

*Level III begins narcosis management

dive2dive2000 · 16th October 2005, 07:14

I never wrote anything about narcosis management. I wrote about gas management, was not elaborate assummed people on a ccr site knew what gas management meant. You know how much you need to take with you and how long you can stay with sufficiant amount... or maybe you do not know?

I think you should reread

my post. I wrote how people love to flame out of ignorance, Thank you for proving my point.

Unless you have spoken to a PSA instructor and have taken the course to flame on the internet is just as foolish as a deep air dive IMO

The basis of a PSA deep air course is NOT TO GO DEEP AIR DIVING, but to teach you deep water technical skills and the dangerous and deadly efects of narcosis but because of ignorance and competition people will

when they really have no clue on what they are taking about. Do not let the name of the class miss inform you, it has been some of the best training that I have taken. I follow a lot of Naui and GUE protocall for deco profiles, and what gas what depth ect. When it comes to skills, post & pre dive protocall,and gasmanagement PSA

Quote: (Originally Posted by Andy M)

Huh? I found this table on the mrscuba.com site. It seems to indicate that PSA condone deep air to 73m? Thats not what you just wrote. "Narcosis management"? Ha ha, thats a good one.

PSA is the only agency offering Deep Air training down to 73 meters ~ (240 feet) taught in six levels. There are currently only ten instructors world wide qualified to teach to level VI.

Level ~ I 30m (100')
Level ~ II 40m (130')

Level ~ III 46m (150')*

Level ~ IV 55m (180')
Level ~ V 61m (200')

Level ~ VI 73m (240')

*Level III begins narcosis management

decoweenie · 16th October 2005, 07:25

Martin,

I have not participated in the discussion, and this is just for my curiousity and clarity about about the PSA deep air course...

For level VI, does the trainee dive to 73m on air as part of the training ?

Thanks

dive2dive2000 · 16th October 2005, 07:35

Yes, 2 instructors to one student, At least that is the way Hal use to do it.

On that note after LevelIII (150') it is more of a personal choice than a skill choice IMO. Sometimes people just like to push the envelope, and I like the fact that it is still available. Sorta like jumpin out of planes or 100m + free dives on a sled. I personaly think those things are nuts,

but I admire and respect the people that do it and enjoy it.

decoweenie · 16th October 2005, 07:56

Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000)

Yes, 2 instructors to one student, At least that is the way Hal use to do it.

Are the instructors on air also (3 divers on air at 73m), or mix ?

Quote:

...Sorta like jumpin out of planes...

Hey, I do that. And there is nothing nuts about it either...

Speaking of which, yes, they shrunk to about the size of peanuts when I get to the door everytime...

then just pure exhilaration after that...

Andy M · 16th October 2005, 08:48

Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000)

I never wrote anything about narcosis management. I wrote about gas management

"Narcosis management" is quoted from www.mrscuba.com, which is apparently Hal Watts website, which is where I got that depth rating table from. I didnt say I was quoting you... Jumping to assumptions eh? calm down, calm down...

Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000)

Unless you have spoken to a PSA instructor and have taken the course to flame on the internet is just as foolish as a deep air dive IMO

I have no idea where you got the impression I was flaming anyone. To accuse someone of flaming on the Internet with no basis is just as foolish as a deep air dive

Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000)

The basis of a PSA deep air course is NOT TO GO DEEP AIR DIVING, but to teach you deep water technical skills and the dangerous and deadly efects of narcosis

You say the basis of the deep air course is not to go deep air diving, but the course (according to Hals website) apparently teaches you to dive to 73m on air with "narcosis management"? I am having trouble reconciling these two things as I suspect most people who read this site would.

20th September 2005, 07:50	#11 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Quote: (Originally Posted by shell-back) ..."DONE IT LONGER"... Too funny and true in many cases... Have some green! __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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20th September 2005, 15:25	#12 (permalink)
dive2dive2000 PRISM DIVER & LUVIN IT! Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 796	I gave you some too! Quote: (Originally Posted by shell-back) I recall Joe O making a comment to the wit of DIL opposed DIR at the TEC conference in 2003 which would clearly state what you get from a PSA course. If you are wondering "DONE IT LONGER" The staff at PSA is loaded with a wealth of knowledge and experience. SEE YA AT DEMA __________________ Safe Diving, Martin
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15th October 2005, 21:28	#13 (permalink)
Simon TW Martini Diver Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hurghada (Egypt) and Lancaster (England) Posts: 167	Someone please correct me if i'm wrong, PSA CCR Have a MOD1 but unlike TDI etc there is no additional course to dive deco. PSA give you a cert to 45 metre where as the other ageny's give 40 metre. I did the PSA course because my Instructor (who is also an instructor with other ageny's) recommended them. Mdemon mentioned him Andy heyhurst, DALESDIVERS.
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15th October 2005, 22:43	#14 (permalink)
dive2dive2000 PRISM DIVER & LUVIN IT! Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 796	How did you like your course? Quote: (Originally Posted by Simon TW) Someone please correct me if i'm wrong, PSA CCR Have a MOD1 but unlike TDI etc there is no additional course to dive deco. PSA give you a cert to 45 metre where as the other ageny's give 40 metre. I did the PSA course because my Instructor (who is also an instructor with other ageny's) recommended them. Mdemon mentioned him Andy heyhurst, DALESDIVERS. __________________ Safe Diving, Martin
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16th October 2005, 04:33	#15 (permalink)
Andy M Dude Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 428	Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000) The basis of a PSA deep air course is NOT TO GO DEEP AIR DIVING, it is to teach you deep water technical skills and the dangerous and deadly efects of narcosis, Huh? I found this table on the mrscuba.com site. It seems to indicate that PSA condone deep air to 73m? Thats not what you just wrote. "Narcosis management"? Ha ha, thats a good one. PSA is the only agency offering Deep Air training down to 73 meters ~ (240 feet) taught in six levels. There are currently only ten instructors world wide qualified to teach to level VI. Level ~ I 30m (100') Level ~ II 40m (130') Level ~ III 46m (150')* Level ~ IV 55m (180') Level ~ V 61m (200') Level ~ VI 73m (240') *Level III begins narcosis management __________________ Know your PO2 at all times
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16th October 2005, 07:14	#16 (permalink)
dive2dive2000 PRISM DIVER & LUVIN IT! Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 796	I never wrote anything about narcosis management. I wrote about gas management, was not elaborate assummed people on a ccr site knew what gas management meant. You know how much you need to take with you and how long you can stay with sufficiant amount... or maybe you do not know? I think you should reread my post. I wrote how people love to flame out of ignorance, Thank you for proving my point. Unless you have spoken to a PSA instructor and have taken the course to flame on the internet is just as foolish as a deep air dive IMO The basis of a PSA deep air course is NOT TO GO DEEP AIR DIVING, but to teach you deep water technical skills and the dangerous and deadly efects of narcosis but because of ignorance and competition people will when they really have no clue on what they are taking about. Do not let the name of the class miss inform you, it has been some of the best training that I have taken. I follow a lot of Naui and GUE protocall for deco profiles, and what gas what depth ect. When it comes to skills, post & pre dive protocall,and gasmanagement PSA Quote: (Originally Posted by Andy M) Huh? I found this table on the mrscuba.com site. It seems to indicate that PSA condone deep air to 73m? Thats not what you just wrote. "Narcosis management"? Ha ha, thats a good one. PSA is the only agency offering Deep Air training down to 73 meters ~ (240 feet) taught in six levels. There are currently only ten instructors world wide qualified to teach to level VI. Level ~ I 30m (100') Level ~ II 40m (130') Level ~ III 46m (150')* Level ~ IV 55m (180') Level ~ V 61m (200') Level ~ VI 73m (240') *Level III begins narcosis management __________________ Safe Diving, Martin
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16th October 2005, 07:25	#17 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Martin, I have not participated in the discussion, and this is just for my curiousity and clarity about about the PSA deep air course... For level VI, does the trainee dive to 73m on air as part of the training ? Thanks __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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16th October 2005, 07:35	#18 (permalink)
dive2dive2000 PRISM DIVER & LUVIN IT! Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 796	Yes, 2 instructors to one student, At least that is the way Hal use to do it. On that note after LevelIII (150') it is more of a personal choice than a skill choice IMO. Sometimes people just like to push the envelope, and I like the fact that it is still available. Sorta like jumpin out of planes or 100m + free dives on a sled. I personaly think those things are nuts, but I admire and respect the people that do it and enjoy it. __________________ Safe Diving, Martin
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16th October 2005, 07:56	#19 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000) Yes, 2 instructors to one student, At least that is the way Hal use to do it. Are the instructors on air also (3 divers on air at 73m), or mix ? Quote: ...Sorta like jumpin out of planes... Hey, I do that. And there is nothing nuts about it either... Speaking of which, yes, they shrunk to about the size of peanuts when I get to the door everytime... then just pure exhilaration after that... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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16th October 2005, 08:48	#20 (permalink)
Andy M Dude Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 428	Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000) I never wrote anything about narcosis management. I wrote about gas management "Narcosis management" is quoted from www.mrscuba.com, which is apparently Hal Watts website, which is where I got that depth rating table from. I didnt say I was quoting you... Jumping to assumptions eh? calm down, calm down... Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000) Unless you have spoken to a PSA instructor and have taken the course to flame on the internet is just as foolish as a deep air dive IMO I have no idea where you got the impression I was flaming anyone. To accuse someone of flaming on the Internet with no basis is just as foolish as a deep air dive Quote: (Originally Posted by dive2dive2000) The basis of a PSA deep air course is NOT TO GO DEEP AIR DIVING, but to teach you deep water technical skills and the dangerous and deadly efects of narcosis You say the basis of the deep air course is not to go deep air diving, but the course (according to Hals website) apparently teaches you to dive to 73m on air with "narcosis management"? I am having trouble reconciling these two things as I suspect most people who read this site would. __________________ Know your PO2 at all times
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