Rb80 Clone

tlocdiver · 7th September 2007, 04:28

I have heard people speak of an RB80 Clone. Who make it, I have her of Chek company starting such a project, or is it a homemade deal. I would like to have and rb80 but don't want to have to take all the DIR basic I already know just to take the rebreather class.

On a side note does anyone know anything about the frog.

thanks
tlocdiver

RebreatherNut · 7th September 2007, 05:22

For an example, the EDO rebreather:

Swiss Technical Diving Equipment

cheers,
RBN

vlada · 7th September 2007, 14:39

My RB80 will be for sale later this fall. I'd even deliver to Florida if you can wait till X-mas.

Quote: (Originally Posted by tlocdiver)

I have heard people speak of an RB80 Clone. Who make it, I have her of Chek company starting such a project, or is it a homemade deal. I would like to have and rb80 but don't want to have to take all the DIR basic I already know just to take the rebreather class.

On a side note does anyone know anything about the frog.

thanks
tlocdiver

***caveseeker7*** · 7th September 2007, 19:37

Most of the pSCRs are made in Germany.
Have a look at the SCR forum, there are several threads on them.
One of the better ones has lots of links to pSCRs.

I've seen the Habanero and RON, both impressive SCRs, though quite different.
The RON is very heavy duty, whereas the Habanero is much lighter and should
work very well for travelling (no frame requires).

I've seen the Frog at various DEMAs and wasn't impressed. Not with the unit itself,
nor the people trying to sell it. The unit was covered as part of my 2004 DEMA report (link to Frog), but IMHO as an SCR it's way behind the pSCRs and as a CCR it's just about behind anything that is one.

mathias · 7th September 2007, 19:58

Latest news about the EDO's:

EDO04, pscr:
Until further notice the EDO 04 is no longer available. A homologation procedure is in progress with collaboration with the Swiss Office of accident prevention (BPA).

EDO08, ccr:
This rebreather is no longer available

more infos on : Swiss Technical Diving Equipment

cheers
Mathias

**Dave Sutton** · 8th September 2007, 02:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

and as a CCR it's just about behind anything that is one.

Well said.

The thing has been more or less a joke since it was first introduced.

Dave

frog · 9th September 2007, 18:56

among the 2 RB80 clone made in Germany there's the RB100 Halocline I was trained on at Protec in playa del carmen .

the Halocline unit is almost the exact design as the halcyon unit but his price is around 8000$ for the basic unit including the OC bailout but the frame and switchblock are extra $$$. you might en up paying 11000$ + shipping and taxes for the whole kit.

if you wanna get training closer to the RB80 , Matt (Andreas Mattes) from Protec playa is your best bet. the Halocline is a real RB80 clone (95% same design) unlike the other PSCR which have completely different internal design.

also the halocline is heavy built like a tank but is quite a pain in the ass to travel with because of the need of a bulky frame and it's weight.

haloclinedos.JPG

haloclineface.JPG

The one I currently own is the habanero made by Christoph Schmitt. the internal design is way different than the RB80 but is 35% lighter and completely made of composite material.

it's also take less volume and the tank frame is very light and compact just perfect for travelling.

it's also a cheap rebreather at 5000$ for the entire kit (unit+oc bailout+po2 monitor+travel frame) and add an extra 500$ to 900$ for the switchblock (many model available).

you can get training on that unit from Tom Mount (iantd patriarch). Also Christoph Schmitt the maker of the unit is travelling down in florida and the yucatan peninsula once in a while from germany.

Habanero (piquante PSCR)

habanero1.JPG

DSC00166.jpg

7th September 2007, 04:28	#1 (permalink)
tlocdiver New Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 12	Rb80 Clone I have heard people speak of an RB80 Clone. Who make it, I have her of Chek company starting such a project, or is it a homemade deal. I would like to have and rb80 but don't want to have to take all the DIR basic I already know just to take the rebreather class. On a side note does anyone know anything about the frog. thanks tlocdiver
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7th September 2007, 05:22	#2 (permalink)
RebreatherNut Casual Sport Kiss Pilot Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Ray Other Rebreather/s: Ray Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 720	Re: Rb80 Clone For an example, the EDO rebreather: Swiss Technical Diving Equipment cheers, RBN __________________ "One minute to go, Luck-meister! Then I'll be down on you like a buzzard on a gut wagon." - ALF
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7th September 2007, 14:39	#3 (permalink)
vlada Diver with a camera Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 71	Re: Rb80 Clone My RB80 will be for sale later this fall. I'd even deliver to Florida if you can wait till X-mas. Quote: (Originally Posted by tlocdiver) I have heard people speak of an RB80 Clone. Who make it, I have her of Chek company starting such a project, or is it a homemade deal. I would like to have and rb80 but don't want to have to take all the DIR basic I already know just to take the rebreather class. On a side note does anyone know anything about the frog. thanks tlocdiver __________________ Vlada www.wrecksandreefs.com
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7th September 2007, 19:37	#4 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,555	Re: Rb80 Clone Most of the pSCRs are made in Germany. Have a look at the SCR forum, there are several threads on them. One of the better ones has lots of links to pSCRs. I've seen the Habanero and RON, both impressive SCRs, though quite different. The RON is very heavy duty, whereas the Habanero is much lighter and should work very well for travelling (no frame requires). I've seen the Frog at various DEMAs and wasn't impressed. Not with the unit itself, nor the people trying to sell it. The unit was covered as part of my 2004 DEMA report (link to Frog), but IMHO as an SCR it's way behind the pSCRs and as a CCR it's just about behind anything that is one. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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7th September 2007, 19:58	#5 (permalink)
mathias Ouroboros #31 Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic MK 15.X Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Switzerland - Murten Posts: 189	Re: Rb80 Clone Latest news about the EDO's: EDO04, pscr: Until further notice the EDO 04 is no longer available. A homologation procedure is in progress with collaboration with the Swiss Office of accident prevention (BPA). EDO08, ccr: This rebreather is no longer available more infos on : Swiss Technical Diving Equipment cheers Mathias __________________ Our dreams are other people's nightmares ;-) Plus près du fond, plus loin des cons !
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8th September 2007, 02:29	#6 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Diveshop of Horrors Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,907	Re: Rb80 Clone Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) and as a CCR it's just about behind anything that is one. Well said. The thing has been more or less a joke since it was first introduced. Dave __________________ "Silent Diving with No Bubbles and No Politics".... www.nobubblediving.com
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9th September 2007, 18:56	#7 (permalink)
frog New Member Current Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Join Date: May 2006 Location: petawawa ,ontario, canada Posts: 27	Re: Rb80 Clone among the 2 RB80 clone made in Germany there's the RB100 Halocline I was trained on at Protec in playa del carmen . the Halocline unit is almost the exact design as the halcyon unit but his price is around 8000$ for the basic unit including the OC bailout but the frame and switchblock are extra $$$. you might en up paying 11000$ + shipping and taxes for the whole kit. if you wanna get training closer to the RB80 , Matt (Andreas Mattes) from Protec playa is your best bet. the Halocline is a real RB80 clone (95% same design) unlike the other PSCR which have completely different internal design. also the halocline is heavy built like a tank but is quite a pain in the ass to travel with because of the need of a bulky frame and it's weight. haloclinedos.JPG haloclineface.JPG The one I currently own is the habanero made by Christoph Schmitt. the internal design is way different than the RB80 but is 35% lighter and completely made of composite material. it's also take less volume and the tank frame is very light and compact just perfect for travelling. it's also a cheap rebreather at 5000$ for the entire kit (unit+oc bailout+po2 monitor+travel frame) and add an extra 500$ to 900$ for the switchblock (many model available). you can get training on that unit from Tom Mount (iantd patriarch). Also Christoph Schmitt the maker of the unit is travelling down in florida and the yucatan peninsula once in a while from germany. Habanero (piquante PSCR) habanero1.JPG DSC00166.jpg __________________ Eric Gilbert Last edited by frog : 9th September 2007 at 20:27.
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