question about iantd

PCDiver · 21st August 2005, 07:28

Hi all,

I have a question about the Iantd standards. Is it possible to go from Iantd ccr rebreather DIVER to Iantd normoxic ccr rebreather INSRUCTOR without having to dive OC?

Thanks,

Peter

decoweenie · 21st August 2005, 12:25

Peter,

AFAIK, I don't think so.

The prerequisites to be an IANTD Normoxic Trimix CCR Instructor are:

CCR Instructor
Trimix Diver (i.e. OC)
Assist in training prgram, and minimum courses taught, etc...

PCDiver · 22nd August 2005, 08:21

Isn't it possible to take the Trimix Diver course with a rebreather?

decoweenie · 22nd August 2005, 09:02

Quote: (Originally Posted by PCDiver)

Isn't it possible to take the Trimix Diver course with a rebreather?

Yes, it is.

Take the standard CCR course.
Dive for 100 hours with air diluent
Have the prerequisites, and take the CCR Norm/Trimix courses

I see why you ask, and I thought of the same. However, reading the IANTD standards, I can't understand for sure if the prerequisite for the Instructor is OC Trimix Diver or not...

Perhaps someone more fluent with the IANTD standards could clarify.

I just went thru the same process, but I already had my OC Trimix cert since 1998.

PCDiver · 24th August 2005, 05:40

Any IANTD instructor or instructor trainer out there that can answer my question?

shell-back · 26th August 2005, 01:04

they are all up north diving the op2tima

TechBlue · 26th August 2005, 04:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by PCDiver)

Hi all,

I have a question about the Iantd standards. Is it possible to go from Iantd ccr rebreather DIVER to Iantd normoxic ccr rebreather INSRUCTOR without having to dive OC?

Thanks,

Peter

Hi Peter,

This is from the IANTD standards for a Trimix Instructor

1. Must be qualified as CCR Instructor in Active Teaching Status
2. Must be qualified in at least one of the following:

a. An IANTD OC Trimix Instructor who is a CCR Instructor and has 150 Rebreather Dives including 50 dives on the CCR to become a CCR Trimix Instructor on.
b. Must have been a CCR or OC Normoxic Instructor for at least one year with proof of a minimum of at least 50 logged Trimix dives, who has taught 6 CCR Diver programs of which 3 must have been Normoxic Trimix Diver Programs
c. CCR Instructors crossing over from one CCR to another CCR may complete a crossover at the highest level of CCR instructor qualification they have attained (does not apply to IT status)
3. Must provide proof of a minimum of 400 logged dives, 150 rebreather dives, of which at least 50 on the specific CCR to be used.
4. Must be a minimum of 21 years of age

I believe this answers both of your questions.

PCDiver · 26th August 2005, 09:16

Hi Chris,

thanks for the answer.

I'm still not clear about whether it is possible or not.
From the standards for Normoxic Trimix Instructor:

2. Must be qualified as an IANTD CCR Instructor in Active Teaching Status, and IANTD Trimix Diver or equivalent.

So is the IANTD CCR Trimix Diver equivalent to the IANTD Trimix Diver? If yes, it would be possible.

TechBlue · 26th August 2005, 13:39

Quote: (Originally Posted by PCDiver)

Hi Chris,

thanks for the answer.

I'm still not clear about whether it is possible or not.
From the standards for Normoxic Trimix Instructor:

2. Must be qualified as an IANTD CCR Instructor in Active Teaching Status, and IANTD Trimix Diver or equivalent.

So is the IANTD CCR Trimix Diver equivalent to the IANTD Trimix Diver? If yes, it would be possible.

Peter,

You are mixing up the standards, in short yes all the training can be done completely on CCR without prior OC certs as long as the candidate meets all the prerequisites as laid out in the IANTD standards and procedures

PCDiver · 26th August 2005, 14:09

Hi Chris,

Great to hear. I'm going the CCR path then and let you know in a couple of months (make that years) how it worked out.
I'm probably mixing up standards because they are so clearly defined.

Peter

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decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Peter, AFAIK, I don't think so. The prerequisites to be an IANTD Normoxic Trimix CCR Instructor are: CCR Instructor Trimix Diver (i.e. OC) Assist in training prgram, and minimum courses taught, etc... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Quote: (Originally Posted by PCDiver) Isn't it possible to take the Trimix Diver course with a rebreather? Yes, it is. Take the standard CCR course. Dive for 100 hours with air diluent Have the prerequisites, and take the CCR Norm/Trimix courses I see why you ask, and I thought of the same. However, reading the IANTD standards, I can't understand for sure if the prerequisite for the Instructor is OC Trimix Diver or not... Perhaps someone more fluent with the IANTD standards could clarify. I just went thru the same process, but I already had my OC Trimix cert since 1998. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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TechBlue RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Optima Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Costa del Sol, Spain Posts: 212	Quote: (Originally Posted by PCDiver) Hi all, I have a question about the Iantd standards. Is it possible to go from Iantd ccr rebreather DIVER to Iantd normoxic ccr rebreather INSRUCTOR without having to dive OC? Thanks, Peter Hi Peter, This is from the IANTD standards for a Trimix Instructor 1. Must be qualified as CCR Instructor in Active Teaching Status 2. Must be qualified in at least one of the following: a. An IANTD OC Trimix Instructor who is a CCR Instructor and has 150 Rebreather Dives including 50 dives on the CCR to become a CCR Trimix Instructor on. b. Must have been a CCR or OC Normoxic Instructor for at least one year with proof of a minimum of at least 50 logged Trimix dives, who has taught 6 CCR Diver programs of which 3 must have been Normoxic Trimix Diver Programs c. CCR Instructors crossing over from one CCR to another CCR may complete a crossover at the highest level of CCR instructor qualification they have attained (does not apply to IT status) 3. Must provide proof of a minimum of 400 logged dives, 150 rebreather dives, of which at least 50 on the specific CCR to be used. 4. Must be a minimum of 21 years of age I believe this answers both of your questions. __________________ Cheers, Chris www.tech-blue.com The site dedicated to Rebreather and Technical diving "We only sell what we dive"
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PCDiver Submerge Productions Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,003	Hi Chris, thanks for the answer. I'm still not clear about whether it is possible or not. From the standards for Normoxic Trimix Instructor: 2. Must be qualified as an IANTD CCR Instructor in Active Teaching Status, and IANTD Trimix Diver or equivalent. So is the IANTD CCR Trimix Diver equivalent to the IANTD Trimix Diver? If yes, it would be possible.
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26th August 2005, 13:39	#9 (permalink)
TechBlue RebreatherWorld Sponsor Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Optima Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Costa del Sol, Spain Posts: 212	Quote: (Originally Posted by PCDiver) Hi Chris, thanks for the answer. I'm still not clear about whether it is possible or not. From the standards for Normoxic Trimix Instructor: 2. Must be qualified as an IANTD CCR Instructor in Active Teaching Status, and IANTD Trimix Diver or equivalent. So is the IANTD CCR Trimix Diver equivalent to the IANTD Trimix Diver? If yes, it would be possible. Peter, You are mixing up the standards, in short yes all the training can be done completely on CCR without prior OC certs as long as the candidate meets all the prerequisites as laid out in the IANTD standards and procedures __________________ Cheers, Chris www.tech-blue.com The site dedicated to Rebreather and Technical diving "We only sell what we dive"
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PCDiver Submerge Productions Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,003	Hi Chris, Great to hear. I'm going the CCR path then and let you know in a couple of months (make that years) how it worked out. I'm probably mixing up standards because they are so clearly defined. Peter
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