Bail Out - On or Off

OceanOpportunity · 13th April 2007, 18:45

hoses charged, but valve off until needed. OC bailout is an independent system, however can be quick plugged into the BOV if necessary (if ffm for example). BOV is into diluent for shallow dives/sanity breaths, but completely offboard/independent system for deeper dves

Depth-junkie · 13th April 2007, 19:04

Quote:

If I dive with one tank, it's ON. If I dive with 2 tanks, the deep one is ON and the shallow one is PRESSURISED AND OFF. These states are reversed as I approach the shallow tank MOD.

Ditto, 1st gas (bottom bailout) is always switched on for a quick bailout if needed, deco bailout is pressurised then switched off, then half a turn back on.

ATB
Gareth

pete611 · 13th April 2007, 19:48

bailout or deco tanks off.if a emerg. come i will open the tanks only 1 sec. to open but they will be full

Joe · 13th April 2007, 19:50

Hi Heather:

Yes, except mine are Zeagle (Apecs?). I used the same type on all of my stuff so there is no question about which way is open. Also, all of our group uses the same ones so we are all familiar with one anothers equipment.

With practice you can easily deploy the reg and open the valve and the shut off as described in my post.

FWIW, I have used the Zeagle shut offs on my regs for many years and have never had a problem with them. The key IMO is consistency and practice, with which the proceedure becomes second nature.

Regards.

Joe

Quote: (Originally Posted by NEwreckdiver)

Hi Joe,
Are you using a slider valve type shut off like this?
Isolation Valve Ridged Grips

I have some, but have not yet installed them because I considered it another failure pt and 1 more thing for me to do/check. I go back and forth on whether I want the gas on or off. When diving OC I always dive with tanks off but regs pressurized - but there's a different need (that admittedly doesn't necessarily justify a different method) OC vs. CCR ... so for CCR I generally leave the tank on, which can be a problem with FFs when scootering if the reg gets in the flow. I don't have a BOV.

Cheers,
Heather Knowles

Underwaterbear · 13th April 2007, 20:11

1 sidemount: valve is on.
2: depth appropriate mix is on, other is pressurised but off.

I use poseidon jetstreams and have my 2nd stages turned to the minus position so freeflow is not an issue.

My philosophy is it doesn't matter what you do as long as you always do it and that way.

Cheers
AB

diverrob · 13th April 2007, 22:04

BO Tank Valve is open with a inline shut off valve on the 2nd stage. I used to pressurize the first stage and then dive with the valve off but I have had to rebuild too many 1st stages using this method as H2O always gets in eventually!

Rob

**JPJones** · 4th May 2007, 03:43

I sidemount my bottles and leave them off, it's a Florida Cave thing. However I have a right sourse connected to my dil so I can get to that gas if I need it. I also carry a reg to get to plug in and get to my O2 if I need it, don't want to drown with gas on my back.

**wedivebc** · 4th May 2007, 06:07

My leanest non-helium mix is my drysuit inflation so my bottom bailout and at least one deco gas is turned on. If I use air bailout then only it is on.

Explorer · 4th May 2007, 06:33

Quote: (Originally Posted by wedivebc)

My leanest non-helium mix is my drysuit inflation so my bottom bailout and at least one deco gas is turned on. If I use air bailout then only it is on.

Same as Dave. I sling my bottles with my Golem Armadillo CCR kit and I have my Golem BOV plumbed into my DIL.

View Poll Results: How do you have your bailout tank?
Bailout tank turned on	93	69.40%
Bailout tank turned off	26	19.40%
Bailout tank off but I use BOV or Airsource for bailout	14	10.45%
Bailout tanks are for wuses I am an alpinist	1	0.75%
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13th April 2007, 18:45	#21 (permalink)
OceanOpportunity for a world of water Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Providence, RI USA Posts: 594	Re: Bail Out - On or Off hoses charged, but valve off until needed. OC bailout is an independent system, however can be quick plugged into the BOV if necessary (if ffm for example). BOV is into diluent for shallow dives/sanity breaths, but completely offboard/independent system for deeper dves __________________ Michael Lombardi Oceans of Opportunity www.oceanopportunity.com Elected Director, Society for Human Performance in Extreme Environments MN'07, The Explorers Club Project Manager, Diving a Dream
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13th April 2007, 19:04	#22 (permalink)
Depth-junkie 10/52 Psycho Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Wrexham Posts: 298	Re: Bail Out - On or Off Quote: If I dive with one tank, it's ON. If I dive with 2 tanks, the deep one is ON and the shallow one is PRESSURISED AND OFF. These states are reversed as I approach the shallow tank MOD. Ditto, 1st gas (bottom bailout) is always switched on for a quick bailout if needed, deco bailout is pressurised then switched off, then half a turn back on. ATB Gareth
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13th April 2007, 19:48	#23 (permalink)
pete611 RBD one dive at a time... Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 223	Re: Bail Out - On or Off bailout or deco tanks off.if a emerg. come i will open the tanks only 1 sec. to open but they will be full __________________ Warm Water Only For Me Please.. ><))))°> ><))))°> WARNING: the rebreather is not broken is a Dolphin!!!
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13th April 2007, 19:50	#24 (permalink)
Joe RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 321	Re: Bail Out - On or Off Hi Heather: Yes, except mine are Zeagle (Apecs?). I used the same type on all of my stuff so there is no question about which way is open. Also, all of our group uses the same ones so we are all familiar with one anothers equipment. With practice you can easily deploy the reg and open the valve and the shut off as described in my post. FWIW, I have used the Zeagle shut offs on my regs for many years and have never had a problem with them. The key IMO is consistency and practice, with which the proceedure becomes second nature. Regards. Joe Quote: (Originally Posted by NEwreckdiver) Hi Joe, Are you using a slider valve type shut off like this? Isolation Valve Ridged Grips I have some, but have not yet installed them because I considered it another failure pt and 1 more thing for me to do/check. I go back and forth on whether I want the gas on or off. When diving OC I always dive with tanks off but regs pressurized - but there's a different need (that admittedly doesn't necessarily justify a different method) OC vs. CCR ... so for CCR I generally leave the tank on, which can be a problem with FFs when scootering if the reg gets in the flow. I don't have a BOV. Cheers, Heather Knowles
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13th April 2007, 20:11	#25 (permalink)
Underwaterbear A Prismer in Megland Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 198	Re: Bail Out - On or Off 1 sidemount: valve is on. 2: depth appropriate mix is on, other is pressurised but off. I use poseidon jetstreams and have my 2nd stages turned to the minus position so freeflow is not an issue. My philosophy is it doesn't matter what you do as long as you always do it and that way. Cheers AB
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13th April 2007, 22:04	#26 (permalink)
diverrob The Evolution of Diving Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other SCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Victoria BC Canada Posts: 349	Re: Bail Out - On or Off BO Tank Valve is open with a inline shut off valve on the 2nd stage. I used to pressurize the first stage and then dive with the valve off but I have had to rebuild too many 1st stages using this method as H2O always gets in eventually! Rob
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4th May 2007, 03:43	#27 (permalink)
JPJones O2ptima Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Optima Titan Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 367	Re: Bail Out - On or Off I sidemount my bottles and leave them off, it's a Florida Cave thing. However I have a right sourse connected to my dil so I can get to that gas if I need it. I also carry a reg to get to plug in and get to my O2 if I need it, don't want to drown with gas on my back. __________________ NSS/CDS Training Chairman www.jpjscuba.com
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4th May 2007, 06:07	#28 (permalink)
wedivebc Dave Tomblin Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada Posts: 1,507	Re: Bail Out - On or Off My leanest non-helium mix is my drysuit inflation so my bottom bailout and at least one deco gas is turned on. If I use air bailout then only it is on. __________________ Cheers, Dave.... Man is the only animal burdened with the knowledge he will eventually die
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4th May 2007, 06:33	#29 (permalink)
Explorer I will teach you a..... Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 783	Re: Bail Out - On or Off Quote: (Originally Posted by wedivebc) My leanest non-helium mix is my drysuit inflation so my bottom bailout and at least one deco gas is turned on. If I use air bailout then only it is on. Same as Dave. I sling my bottles with my Golem Armadillo CCR kit and I have my Golem BOV plumbed into my DIL. __________________ KONA COFFEE
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