Hammerhead secondary.

sensor330 · 31st December 2006, 23:12

Since getting my HH back from repair and it is now new I want to keep it that way. On my old HH the secondary would take a lot of abuse because it would often get dragged over rock and such because it was clipped to a D-ring. As well I noticed that there was a considerable amount of damage to the handset caused by the bolt snap that was attached to the handset.

I'm trying to think of a better way of securing it so that doesnt happen in the future and any advice would be appreciated.

diverklondike · 31st December 2006, 23:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330)

Since getting my HH back from repair and it is now new I want to keep it that way. On my old HH the secondary would take a lot of abuse because it would often get dragged over rock and such because it was clipped to a D-ring. As well I noticed that there was a considerable amount of damage to the handset caused by the bolt snap that was attached to the handset.

I'm trying to think of a better way of securing it so that doesnt happen in the future and any advice would be appreciated.

I use a bolt snap that is connected to the HH via a 2 inch piece of bungie. I then clip it off on a D-ring that is very high on my left shoulder. This way the bolt snap does not harm the HH and it does not drag. The bungie allows me to just pull it it forward to read without unhooking it...

Dive Safe...

Mark

btw.... I attach the bungie to the HH with a screw mounted cable retainer.

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 1st January 2007, 01:40

I just wear both the primary and secondary on my wrists. Probably too bulky if you are wearing additional computers. However, I like cross checking occasionally, and I like being able to check the numbers without having to push buttons or wait for the scrolling of the primary.

Mark Chase · 1st January 2007, 11:37

My secondary is on about 50mm of line attached to a bolt snap. I pass the cable under my right hand counterlung and clip it off to a D ring on the left counterlung.

This way it dosent dangle but there is just enough slack to lift it and read the numbers channge set point etc.

I cant wear the Shearwater and the HH controler on my right arm its just too much.

ATB

Mark Chase

sensor330 · 1st January 2007, 18:06

I usually wrap the cable once around the t-piece to keep it as snag proof as possible then secured it. I might start clipping off the primary as well if I can think of a functional way to secure both handsets. As you said it too much for one arm to have a computer and the handset. I could just move the VR3 to the other arm but it will be difficult when I start using the 4th cell as the Fisher connection would on the wrong side. I know I can just flip the screen which would be alright if it only had to be done occasionally but having to push the buttons every dive would start to get annoying.

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 2nd January 2007, 17:06

Dive Rite makes a pocket specifically for the Hammerhead secondary. That might be an option. Works like a gun holster. So, you can remove, check and then re-stow the handset.

curator · 3rd January 2007, 13:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by ScubaDadMiami)

Dive Rite makes a pocket specifically for the Hammerhead secondary. That might be an option. Works like a gun holster. So, you can remove, check and then re-stow the handset.

Anybody got contact details for Diverite in the UK and a picture of the pocket would be great ?
Cheers

***caveseeker7*** · 3rd January 2007, 14:10

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CCRDVR · 4th January 2007, 01:05

Quote: (Originally Posted by ScubaDadMiami)

Dive Rite makes a pocket specifically for the Hammerhead secondary. That might be an option. Works like a gun holster. So, you can remove, check and then re-stow the handset.

I purchased the pocket you spoke of. It works okay, but the secondary falls out of it quite easy. Usually multiple times per dive. It also makes quite a nice thunk when it falls out onto the deck of the dive boat. Think I'll keep it simple and go back clipping to a D ring instead.

Jordan · 15th January 2007, 14:17

I had the same issue with the secondary handset pocket (it kept falling out, never in the water but yes out of the water).

I have switched to one of the transweight 16 holsters (one of the holsters for Dive Rite's 16 lb weight pocket systems). It is angled, which helps keep it from falling out but what really helps is the velcro strip I had sewn on to the top which I velcro over the opening.

31st December 2006, 23:12	#1 (permalink)
sensor330 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 594	Hammerhead secondary. Since getting my HH back from repair and it is now new I want to keep it that way. On my old HH the secondary would take a lot of abuse because it would often get dragged over rock and such because it was clipped to a D-ring. As well I noticed that there was a considerable amount of damage to the handset caused by the bolt snap that was attached to the handset. I'm trying to think of a better way of securing it so that doesnt happen in the future and any advice would be appreciated.
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31st December 2006, 23:49	#2 (permalink)
diverklondike RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,714	Re: Hammerhead secondary. Quote: (Originally Posted by sensor330) Since getting my HH back from repair and it is now new I want to keep it that way. On my old HH the secondary would take a lot of abuse because it would often get dragged over rock and such because it was clipped to a D-ring. As well I noticed that there was a considerable amount of damage to the handset caused by the bolt snap that was attached to the handset. I'm trying to think of a better way of securing it so that doesnt happen in the future and any advice would be appreciated. I use a bolt snap that is connected to the HH via a 2 inch piece of bungie. I then clip it off on a D-ring that is very high on my left shoulder. This way the bolt snap does not harm the HH and it does not drag. The bungie allows me to just pull it it forward to read without unhooking it... Dive Safe... Mark btw.... I attach the bungie to the HH with a screw mounted cable retainer.
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1st January 2007, 01:40	#3 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 2,215	Re: Hammerhead secondary. I just wear both the primary and secondary on my wrists. Probably too bulky if you are wearing additional computers. However, I like cross checking occasionally, and I like being able to check the numbers without having to push buttons or wait for the scrolling of the primary. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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1st January 2007, 11:37	#4 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,856	Re: Hammerhead secondary. My secondary is on about 50mm of line attached to a bolt snap. I pass the cable under my right hand counterlung and clip it off to a D ring on the left counterlung. This way it dosent dangle but there is just enough slack to lift it and read the numbers channge set point etc. I cant wear the Shearwater and the HH controler on my right arm its just too much. ATB Mark Chase __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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1st January 2007, 18:06	#5 (permalink)
sensor330 RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada Posts: 594	Re: Hammerhead secondary. I usually wrap the cable once around the t-piece to keep it as snag proof as possible then secured it. I might start clipping off the primary as well if I can think of a functional way to secure both handsets. As you said it too much for one arm to have a computer and the handset. I could just move the VR3 to the other arm but it will be difficult when I start using the 4th cell as the Fisher connection would on the wrong side. I know I can just flip the screen which would be alright if it only had to be done occasionally but having to push the buttons every dive would start to get annoying.
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2nd January 2007, 17:06	#6 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 2,215	Re: Hammerhead secondary. Dive Rite makes a pocket specifically for the Hammerhead secondary. That might be an option. Works like a gun holster. So, you can remove, check and then re-stow the handset. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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3rd January 2007, 13:41	#7 (permalink)
curator New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: West Midlands, UK Posts: 66	Re: Hammerhead secondary. Quote: (Originally Posted by ScubaDadMiami) Dive Rite makes a pocket specifically for the Hammerhead secondary. That might be an option. Works like a gun holster. So, you can remove, check and then re-stow the handset. Anybody got contact details for Diverite in the UK and a picture of the pocket would be great ? Cheers
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3rd January 2007, 14:10	#8 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,555	Re: Hammerhead secondary. Distributor: SEA & SEA LTD PHILIP HOUSE, ASPEN WAY PAIGNTON, DEVON TQ4 7QR UNITED KINGDOM (441803) 663012 Sea & Sea - Dive Team If Sea & Sea can't help try RBW sponsor Dive Rite Rxpress. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!" Last edited by caveseeker7 : 3rd January 2007 at 14:15.
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4th January 2007, 01:05	#9 (permalink)
CCRDVR New Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Annapolis, Maryland Posts: 77	Re: Hammerhead secondary. Quote: (Originally Posted by ScubaDadMiami) Dive Rite makes a pocket specifically for the Hammerhead secondary. That might be an option. Works like a gun holster. So, you can remove, check and then re-stow the handset. I purchased the pocket you spoke of. It works okay, but the secondary falls out of it quite easy. Usually multiple times per dive. It also makes quite a nice thunk when it falls out onto the deck of the dive boat. Think I'll keep it simple and go back clipping to a D ring instead.
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15th January 2007, 14:17	#10 (permalink)
Jordan EBT called me stroppy! Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Garner, NC Posts: 227	Re: Hammerhead secondary. I had the same issue with the secondary handset pocket (it kept falling out, never in the water but yes out of the water). I have switched to one of the transweight 16 holsters (one of the holsters for Dive Rite's 16 lb weight pocket systems). It is angled, which helps keep it from falling out but what really helps is the velcro strip I had sewn on to the top which I velcro over the opening. __________________ Is it clear? No. Well, let's go anyways. "Those who would sacrifice a little freedom for a little order, will lose both, and deserve neither." Thomas Jefferson Last edited by Jordan : 15th January 2007 at 14:20.
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