Kiss dive computer?

Scott M · 29th October 2006, 20:53

I am thinking of removing the po2 displays from my kiss looking for some feedback from anyone using HS explorer and shearwater. Was thinking about removing the po2 displays I have on my kiss it's unit 195 so I believe I have 2nd generation displays anyway I dont really like them and was thing of plumbing in an HS explorer modelO and the other two cells to their po2 meter, My other thought was to plumb in the shearwater since it seems like a soilid unit but I am concerned that would put all my eggs in one basket. Any thoughts?

Thanks Scott

sailordiver@msn.com · 29th October 2006, 22:00

Sartek makes a beautiful PPO2 display... much cleaner than the stardard KISS unit.

http://www.sarind.com/acatalog/Rebre...cessories.html

RAL · 29th October 2006, 22:33

Quote: (Originally Posted by Scott M)

I am thinking of removing the po2 displays from my kiss looking for some feedback from anyone using HS explorer and shearwater. Was thinking about removing the po2 displays I have on my kiss it's unit 195 so I believe I have 2nd generation displays anyway I dont really like them and was thing of plumbing in an HS explorer modelO and the other two cells to their po2 meter, My other thought was to plumb in the shearwater since it seems like a soilid unit but I am concerned that would put all my eggs in one basket. Any thoughts?

Thanks Scott

I plan on putting the Sub Sea displays with HUD on my KISS. Looks to be a sweet setup. You can plumb a VR3 in or a Cockren I think. The whole setup displays, HUD & computer cable comes to less than $1200 U.S. & that includes shipping. Check it out looks to be top notch stuff.

RAL

Scott M · 29th October 2006, 22:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL)

I plan on putting the Sub Sea displays with HUD on my KISS. Looks to be a sweet setup. You can plumb a VR3 in or a Cockren I think. The whole setup displays, HUD & computer cable comes to less than $1200 U.S. & that includes shipping. Check it out looks to be top notch stuff.

RAL

I did look at it nice unit, I was leaning towards the HS since I don't have to open it up to calibrate, not sure about the shearwater. This is one weakness I would like to get awayfrom.

Thanks Scott

6Gill · 29th October 2006, 22:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by Scott M)

I am thinking of removing the po2 displays from my kiss looking for some feedback from anyone using HS explorer and shearwater. Was thinking about removing the po2 displays I have on my kiss it's unit 195 so I believe I have 2nd generation displays anyway I dont really like them and was thing of plumbing in an HS explorer modelO and the other two cells to their po2 meter, My other thought was to plumb in the shearwater since it seems like a soilid unit but I am concerned that would put all my eggs in one basket. Any thoughts?

Thanks Scott

I use a Shearwater on my CK and really like it. For secondary PO2 info consider a HUD or another computer. The Shearwater uses voting logic on all 3 cells.

silentscuba · 30th October 2006, 02:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by Scott M)

I did look at it nice unit, I was leaning towards the HS since I don't have to open it up to calibrate, not sure about the shearwater. This is one weakness I would like to get awayfrom.

Thanks Scott

You don't have to open the Shearwater to calibrate. You only have to open it once every two years or so to change out the batteries

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scubagrunt · 30th October 2006, 06:25

Another Shearwater vote. Nice clean and fairly compact unit with lots of user modifiable factors. We have 10 local divers using them on KISS's all are extremely happy. The HS is not my favorite after having two, i find the depth sensor gets out of calibartion. The VR3 is okay but more expesive when you look at what you are getting. Also the VR3 (depending on how you set it up) will only use one sensor, whereas the shearwater uses all three. Just my 2 cents worth.

Marc T · 30th October 2006, 07:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL)

I plan on putting the Sub Sea displays with HUD on my KISS. Looks to be a sweet setup. You can plumb a VR3 in or a Cockren I think. The whole setup displays, HUD & computer cable comes to less than $1200 U.S. & that includes shipping. Check it out looks to be top notch stuff.

RAL

Subsea looks wonderfull and seem to be bomproof but not sure that its a good idea for a mCCR because you cant use his HUD to manage your PPO2 ( the HUD display use a voting logic who just tell you if you are good or wrong ) so you certainly need to look at your normal display too often.
Why not a rEVO dream?
One great advantage of the Subsea is that you can dream to use it later to drive a solenoïd, but whe are far from Kiss there

Cheers

Marc

***caveseeker7*** · 30th October 2006, 10:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by Marc T)

Subsea looks wonderfull and seem to be bomproof but not sure that its a good idea for a mCCR because you cant use his HUD to manage your PPO2 ( the HUD display use a voting logic who just tell you if you are good or wrong ) so you certainly need to look at your normal display too often.

That's a personal preference, I for one like the SubSea setup better.
The HUD gives you a warning to look at your secondary.
There you can read all cells at once. Would be my choice.

The only thing that I don't like is "putting all eggs into one basket" as Gordon used to say. The stock display from Jetsam has three displays with independent power supplies with three cables going to the three sensors. If any one fails, the other two are still there.

The perfect, albeit expensive, setup would be the Shearwater GF with tripple cell readout and deco, with the SubSea acting as independent secondary and HUD warning.

koputai · 30th October 2006, 12:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

The perfect, albeit expensive, setup would be the Shearwater GF with tripple cell readout and deco, with the SubSea acting as independent secondary and HUD warning.

Hey Stefan, thanks for the plug!
I just today shipped the first system which will be integrated with the Shearwater on a Classic KISS. One of our fellow members here is keen as mustard to get it in the water. Shearwater for dive info and deco, Subsea for independent triple display and HUD driver.

Cheers,
Jason.

29th October 2006, 20:53	#1 (permalink)
Scott M New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ontario Posts: 79	Kiss dive computer? I am thinking of removing the po2 displays from my kiss looking for some feedback from anyone using HS explorer and shearwater. Was thinking about removing the po2 displays I have on my kiss it's unit 195 so I believe I have 2nd generation displays anyway I dont really like them and was thing of plumbing in an HS explorer modelO and the other two cells to their po2 meter, My other thought was to plumb in the shearwater since it seems like a soilid unit but I am concerned that would put all my eggs in one basket. Any thoughts? Thanks Scott __________________ www.customdivingservices.com ( Mad Scientist) Classic Kiss #195
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29th October 2006, 22:00	#2 (permalink)
sailordiver@msn.com RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Marina del Reye, CA USA Posts: 53	Re: Kiss dive computer? Sartek makes a beautiful PPO2 display... much cleaner than the stardard KISS unit. http://www.sarind.com/acatalog/Rebre...cessories.html
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29th October 2006, 22:33	#3 (permalink)
RAL Longbottom Time Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Florida Posts: 391	Re: Kiss dive computer? Quote: (Originally Posted by Scott M) I am thinking of removing the po2 displays from my kiss looking for some feedback from anyone using HS explorer and shearwater. Was thinking about removing the po2 displays I have on my kiss it's unit 195 so I believe I have 2nd generation displays anyway I dont really like them and was thing of plumbing in an HS explorer modelO and the other two cells to their po2 meter, My other thought was to plumb in the shearwater since it seems like a soilid unit but I am concerned that would put all my eggs in one basket. Any thoughts? Thanks Scott I plan on putting the Sub Sea displays with HUD on my KISS. Looks to be a sweet setup. You can plumb a VR3 in or a Cockren I think. The whole setup displays, HUD & computer cable comes to less than $1200 U.S. & that includes shipping. Check it out looks to be top notch stuff. RAL __________________ The sea does not care about you.
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29th October 2006, 22:37	#4 (permalink)
Scott M New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ontario Posts: 79	Re: Kiss dive computer? Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL) I plan on putting the Sub Sea displays with HUD on my KISS. Looks to be a sweet setup. You can plumb a VR3 in or a Cockren I think. The whole setup displays, HUD & computer cable comes to less than $1200 U.S. & that includes shipping. Check it out looks to be top notch stuff. RAL I did look at it nice unit, I was leaning towards the HS since I don't have to open it up to calibrate, not sure about the shearwater. This is one weakness I would like to get awayfrom. Thanks Scott __________________ www.customdivingservices.com ( Mad Scientist) Classic Kiss #195
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29th October 2006, 22:40	#5 (permalink)
6Gill Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 112	Re: Kiss dive computer? Quote: (Originally Posted by Scott M) I am thinking of removing the po2 displays from my kiss looking for some feedback from anyone using HS explorer and shearwater. Was thinking about removing the po2 displays I have on my kiss it's unit 195 so I believe I have 2nd generation displays anyway I dont really like them and was thing of plumbing in an HS explorer modelO and the other two cells to their po2 meter, My other thought was to plumb in the shearwater since it seems like a soilid unit but I am concerned that would put all my eggs in one basket. Any thoughts? Thanks Scott I use a Shearwater on my CK and really like it. For secondary PO2 info consider a HUD or another computer. The Shearwater uses voting logic on all 3 cells. __________________ "It's a shame ignorance isn't painful!"
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30th October 2006, 02:09	#6 (permalink)
silentscuba rEvo CCR Driver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic rEvo Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA USA Posts: 612	Re: Kiss dive computer? Quote: (Originally Posted by Scott M) I did look at it nice unit, I was leaning towards the HS since I don't have to open it up to calibrate, not sure about the shearwater. This is one weakness I would like to get awayfrom. Thanks Scott You don't have to open the Shearwater to calibrate. You only have to open it once every two years or so to change out the batteries . __________________ Curt McNamee rEvo CCR Diver KISS CCR Diver www.silentscuba.com
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30th October 2006, 06:25	#7 (permalink)
scubagrunt CCR Diva Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other SCR Join Date: May 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 441	Re: Kiss dive computer? Another Shearwater vote. Nice clean and fairly compact unit with lots of user modifiable factors. We have 10 local divers using them on KISS's all are extremely happy. The HS is not my favorite after having two, i find the depth sensor gets out of calibartion. The VR3 is okay but more expesive when you look at what you are getting. Also the VR3 (depending on how you set it up) will only use one sensor, whereas the shearwater uses all three. Just my 2 cents worth. __________________ "No good deed goes unpunished!" www.silentscuba.com
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30th October 2006, 07:32	#8 (permalink)
Marc T hell is in the details Current Rebreather/s: RB80 / Clone Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet RB80 / Clone Home Build Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: FRANCE Carcassonne Posts: 498	Re: Kiss dive computer? Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL) I plan on putting the Sub Sea displays with HUD on my KISS. Looks to be a sweet setup. You can plumb a VR3 in or a Cockren I think. The whole setup displays, HUD & computer cable comes to less than $1200 U.S. & that includes shipping. Check it out looks to be top notch stuff. RAL Subsea looks wonderfull and seem to be bomproof but not sure that its a good idea for a mCCR because you cant use his HUD to manage your PPO2 ( the HUD display use a voting logic who just tell you if you are good or wrong ) so you certainly need to look at your normal display too often. Why not a rEVO dream? One great advantage of the Subsea is that you can dream to use it later to drive a solenoïd, but whe are far from Kiss there Cheers Marc
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30th October 2006, 10:32	#9 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,555	Re: Kiss dive computer? Quote: (Originally Posted by Marc T) Subsea looks wonderfull and seem to be bomproof but not sure that its a good idea for a mCCR because you cant use his HUD to manage your PPO2 ( the HUD display use a voting logic who just tell you if you are good or wrong ) so you certainly need to look at your normal display too often. That's a personal preference, I for one like the SubSea setup better. The HUD gives you a warning to look at your secondary. There you can read all cells at once. Would be my choice. The only thing that I don't like is "putting all eggs into one basket" as Gordon used to say. The stock display from Jetsam has three displays with independent power supplies with three cables going to the three sensors. If any one fails, the other two are still there. The perfect, albeit expensive, setup would be the Shearwater GF with tripple cell readout and deco, with the SubSea acting as independent secondary and HUD warning. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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30th October 2006, 12:52	#10 (permalink)
koputai Subsea Systems Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Other CCR Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Other SCR Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 350	Re: Kiss dive computer? Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) The perfect, albeit expensive, setup would be the Shearwater GF with tripple cell readout and deco, with the SubSea acting as independent secondary and HUD warning. Hey Stefan, thanks for the plug! I just today shipped the first system which will be integrated with the Shearwater on a Classic KISS. One of our fellow members here is keen as mustard to get it in the water. Shearwater for dive info and deco, Subsea for independent triple display and HUD driver. Cheers, Jason.
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