Electronics for the KISS

Gareth Davies · 16th May 2006, 17:23

Quote: (Originally Posted by RichClark)

Thats the only part that I struggle with, but my understanding is that the HUD works directly with the head, and is not reliant on the computer.

Although Bruce is keeping details quite until it's launch after Inner Space, I'm pretty confident that he's thought of this.

Cheers

Rich

Speaking to Bruce last night he didn't want to go into too much information, but said that they are independent, so if one goes down the other will function, and the trials conducted by him and his wife have been promising.

Only problem is he can't ship me a shearwater until early June. Too late for my France trip, but should have for St kilda at the end of June.

**RichClark** · 16th May 2006, 17:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by Gareth Davies)

Speaking to Bruce last night he didn't want to go into too much information, but said that they are independent, so if one goes down the other will function, and the trials conducted by him and his wife have been promising.

Only problem is he can't ship me a shearwater until early June. Too late for my France trip, but should have for St kilda at the end of June.

Yea, I'm hearing the same thing. As I expect to order the complete package just as soon as the crash test dummies

I mean beta testers are done with it.

Andy M · 16th May 2006, 17:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

I've ran a cord (much like the pod anti-twist cord) though with my handsets with is slightly shorter than the cables, I can't overstretch them now, I also put beefier spiral wrap on then a sacrificial cable tidy (thin plastic over the outside) seems pretty tough.

Yup. good idea. I dont know why they dont do this at the factory. After ripping all my displays from the cable THREE TIMES (!) I put a piece of cave line between the displays and the box, shorter than the cable, as you describe.

I also have a piece of velcro round the drysuit arm with a little bit of velcro on the end so I can make sure the cables stay close to the body.

The first time was jumping off the boat with the cables caught on the dive boat ladder

complete flood of all three displays

The second time was getting up with all my kit on and the displays caught in the bench

The third time was the same.

Andy

Andy M · 16th May 2006, 17:32

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field)

(I didn't know that the Battery PCB came with a plug now for example)

Can you elaborate? I have not heard about this.

What other changes have been made to the SK? I noticed in another post that Stefan's SK has a new method of ensuring the scrubber stays in the box, the pods are clipped to the box instead of to each other. Any other changes?

Andy

cameron · 16th May 2006, 18:52

I guess you can be worried about the cable getting chopped but if that happens, SCR and bail out. But the likley hood of that happening are pretty low and IMHO, the added hastle of more monitors isn't justified. Shearwater, tables and adequate bail out is good enough for me....

Ben Field · 17th May 2006, 00:23

Quote: (Originally Posted by Andy M)

Can you elaborate? I have not heard about this.

As usual don't have a digi-cam handy... my "old" original display battery PCB's where hard wired/soldered into the cables, the "new" one I just got from Jetsam has a jumper style plug on the back so you can unplug and remove the PCB's entirely. Should make battery change easier as no need to twist the display electronics around on its wires.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Andy M)

What other changes have been made to the SK? I noticed in another post that Stefan's SK has a new method of ensuring the scrubber stays in the box, the pods are clipped to the box instead of to each other. Any other changes?

Yeah, that seemed like a good idea- will incorporate that into my pod cover... pending... still!

BEN

decoweenie · 17th May 2006, 06:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by Andy M)

The first time was jumping off the boat with the cables caught on the dive boat ladder

complete flood of all three displays

The second time was getting up with all my kit on and the displays caught in the bench

The third time was the same.

Eliminating the danglies should help, M8...

16th May 2006, 17:23	#11 (permalink)
Gareth Davies New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cardiff, UK Posts: 14	Re: Electronic displays for the KISS Quote: (Originally Posted by RichClark) Thats the only part that I struggle with, but my understanding is that the HUD works directly with the head, and is not reliant on the computer. Although Bruce is keeping details quite until it's launch after Inner Space, I'm pretty confident that he's thought of this. Cheers Rich Speaking to Bruce last night he didn't want to go into too much information, but said that they are independent, so if one goes down the other will function, and the trials conducted by him and his wife have been promising. Only problem is he can't ship me a shearwater until early June. Too late for my France trip, but should have for St kilda at the end of June.
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16th May 2006, 17:25	#12 (permalink)
RichClark Classic KISS No. 226 Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hove, UK Posts: 793	Re: Electronic displays for the KISS Quote: (Originally Posted by Gareth Davies) Speaking to Bruce last night he didn't want to go into too much information, but said that they are independent, so if one goes down the other will function, and the trials conducted by him and his wife have been promising. Only problem is he can't ship me a shearwater until early June. Too late for my France trip, but should have for St kilda at the end of June. Yea, I'm hearing the same thing. As I expect to order the complete package just as soon as the crash test dummies I mean beta testers are done with it. __________________ The more I learn about women, the more I want to go diving... just don't tell my wife I said that To taste something a little different, try http://www.thechillikitchen.co.uk
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Andy M Dude Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 428	Re: Electronic displays for the KISS Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) I've ran a cord (much like the pod anti-twist cord) though with my handsets with is slightly shorter than the cables, I can't overstretch them now, I also put beefier spiral wrap on then a sacrificial cable tidy (thin plastic over the outside) seems pretty tough. Yup. good idea. I dont know why they dont do this at the factory. After ripping all my displays from the cable THREE TIMES (!) I put a piece of cave line between the displays and the box, shorter than the cable, as you describe. I also have a piece of velcro round the drysuit arm with a little bit of velcro on the end so I can make sure the cables stay close to the body. The first time was jumping off the boat with the cables caught on the dive boat ladder complete flood of all three displays The second time was getting up with all my kit on and the displays caught in the bench The third time was the same. Andy __________________ Know your PO2 at all times
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16th May 2006, 17:32	#14 (permalink)
Andy M Dude Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 428	Re: Electronic displays for the KISS Quote: (Originally Posted by Ben Field) (I didn't know that the Battery PCB came with a plug now for example) Can you elaborate? I have not heard about this. What other changes have been made to the SK? I noticed in another post that Stefan's SK has a new method of ensuring the scrubber stays in the box, the pods are clipped to the box instead of to each other. Any other changes? Andy __________________ Know your PO2 at all times
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16th May 2006, 18:52	#15 (permalink)
cameron RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 262	Re: Electronics for the KISS I guess you can be worried about the cable getting chopped but if that happens, SCR and bail out. But the likley hood of that happening are pretty low and IMHO, the added hastle of more monitors isn't justified. Shearwater, tables and adequate bail out is good enough for me....
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Ben Field CK+Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 1,774	Re: Electronic displays for the KISS Quote: (Originally Posted by Andy M) Can you elaborate? I have not heard about this. As usual don't have a digi-cam handy... my "old" original display battery PCB's where hard wired/soldered into the cables, the "new" one I just got from Jetsam has a jumper style plug on the back so you can unplug and remove the PCB's entirely. Should make battery change easier as no need to twist the display electronics around on its wires. Quote: (Originally Posted by Andy M) What other changes have been made to the SK? I noticed in another post that Stefan's SK has a new method of ensuring the scrubber stays in the box, the pods are clipped to the box instead of to each other. Any other changes? Yeah, that seemed like a good idea- will incorporate that into my pod cover... pending... still! BEN __________________ Know your PPO2, Pre-breath, Use checklists, Validate cells at 6mtrs, Use pure O2 at or near surface, Use a BOV, Don't dive Solo, Change Slime and Cells as recommended by Manufacturer and RTFM! Beware Fridge Suck! www.hugsac.org.uk
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decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Electronic displays for the KISS Quote: (Originally Posted by Andy M) The first time was jumping off the boat with the cables caught on the dive boat ladder complete flood of all three displays The second time was getting up with all my kit on and the displays caught in the bench The third time was the same. Eliminating the danglies should help, M8...
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