OSTC vs X1

jkaterenchuk · 27th November 2008, 12:41

The OSTC computer seems to be a nice unit and the price point is much better than the X1. There is no shortage of people singing the praise of the X1 but I would like to know about actual diver experiences with this computer. Questions like:

1) Has there been any use issues?
2) Is it user friendly on a dive?
3) Does the software have any limitations that are only apparent after buying and using it?
4) How does its deco compare to other GF computers (shearwater) and software (Gap)?
5) What add on software is available or in the works?
6) Is the wrist band as bad as the HSE and does it break easily?
7) What kind of battery life is apparent in real world use?
8) How responsive is the manufacturer?

John

**diverklondike** · 27th November 2008, 12:52

John,

I own an X1 and am a raving fan when it comes to the product as you can see from my comments below. I did have any oppertunity to dive a OSTC last year when we were in JB. It was Joe R's computer. One thing that I really like about the X1 over the OSTC is more due to the VPM-Live software. Ross has done a great job using the screen face with font sized etc. So it's not only the HW from Liquivision that makes a difference but you need to take into account the software provider. My responses below are based on the combination.

Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk)

The OSTC computer seems to be a nice unit and the price point is much better than the X1. There is no shortage of people singing the praise of the X1 but I would like to know about actual diver experiences with this computer. Questions like:

1) Has there been any use issues? **** I did have an issue with the display and the unit was quickly replaced***

2) Is it user friendly on a dive? *** Very... It takes a dive or two to get used to the tapping but now it's a piece of cake..**

3) Does the software have any limitations that are only apparent after buying and using it? *** Not that I have found. Further Ross has been very responsive in continueing to improve the SW. ***

4) How does its deco compare to other GF computers (shearwater) and software (Gap)? *** As mentioned I have VPM Live in my computer. I run it with settings of B/E +3 and have my HH set at 10/85 GF. I am very happy with the results. ***

5) What add on software is available or in the works? *** See above ***

6) Is the wrist band as bad as the HSE and does it break easily? *** Lol... The DS mount for it works fine.... ***

7) What kind of battery life is apparent in real world use? *** Hard to say... I charge it after every weekend of diving ***

8) How responsive is the manufacturer? *** Ross and Eric have been very responsive ***

John

The main reason that I bought it is based on how easy it is to see at an angle... The fact that cell monitoring is ava is a huge plus!!

Mark

**Dinspiration** · 27th November 2008, 13:17

Hi

1) The first versions had a problem with the buttons. They started to stick at around 50 meters. All new versions have stronger springs and the buttons are working fine. BUT the unit is still rated to maximal 100 meters!!!

2) It it is not bad, but a Shearwater Pursuit is much easier to use. The OSTC has a quite complex menu structure. I have to play around a bit more with setpoint switching, bailout profile and gas switch with the latest 1.22 firmware. You have around 36 custom settings, you can play around....

3) The computer is an experimental platform. The firmware has some bugs and with each new version they are implementing some fixes and enhancements. The latest 1.22 firmware is the first one with real GF decompression and a working constant PPO2 decompression. The released version 1.22 is brand new and I did not use it for a dive so far.

4) Don't know - I did not use the computer with the beta versions of the 1.21 and 1.22 firmware. On the older versions the GF decompression was not fully implemented. On the older firmware the computer did not use all active gases for the TTS calculations. Just the current active gas was used to calculate the TTS and decompression. This was the case on the very first firmware versions and this is maybe not the case any more.

5) I don't know any other software except the JDivelog and Dive Log 4.0 software.

6) Wrist bands are looking like the ones from the "old" aladin computers.

7) I don't know - I only did some test dives with it and the battery life was never an issue. You can charge the battery with every USB charger or directly from your PC/Notebook.

8) I asked some questions about the unit within the manufacturers forum and got the answers very quick.

The OSTC is a nice unit - but as the manufacturer is pointing out an experimental platform and with the limitation of 100 meters. I use it only as additional unit (= backup) and/or for some OC dives. Over all you can not compare an experimental computer with an X1 or Shearwater Pursuit. With an X1 or Shearwater Pursuit you have a fully working technical dive computer. And they are of course a bit more expensive than an OSTC. Compared to an Shearwater Pursuit the price difference is still there but not as high as to an X1.

DINspiration

Rob Dobson · 27th November 2008, 13:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk)

The OSTC computer seems to be a nice unit and the price point is much better than the X1. There is no shortage of people singing the praise of the X1 but I would like to know about actual diver experiences with this computer. Questions like:

1) Has there been any use issues?
2) Is it user friendly on a dive?
3) Does the software have any limitations that are only apparent after buying and using it?
4) How does its deco compare to other GF computers (shearwater) and software (Gap)?
5) What add on software is available or in the works?
6) Is the wrist band as bad as the HSE and does it break easily?
7) What kind of battery life is apparent in real world use?
8) How responsive is the manufacturer?

John

I own both and I dive both so here are some observations:

Firstly the OSTC is not trying to be an all encompassing dive computer. It is a platform for divers with good knowledge of deco theory who want complete transparency and full disclosure. In this respect it is not trying to compete with the likes of Delta-P. The X1 is sometimes described as an open source computer and the OSTC and the X1 use the same screen so I guess that they are similar enough to warrant comparision.

I find the OSTC is *much* easier to setup than the X1 because it has buttons. The X1 I was ready to throw out of the window before I ever got it wet thanks to the tapping thing. The same tap done the same way in the same place can have random responses. This drove me insane for hours and now I have finally got my mixes in it I don't ever want to touch it again. It is staying on 10/52 forever.

The X1 should be plugged into the mains all the time to preserve the battery life. It lives on my bedside table. My dive kit is in the garage. I usually remember my X1 just as I am loading the boat 3 hrs or so from home. My X1 doesn't see that much diving as a result.

I use the Shearwater for online GF Deco and the X1 is using VPM-B so the profiles don't match so before I got the OSTC and I was using a PPo2 backup which wasn't ideal. GAP is coming but do I want to buy more S/W for it? The X1 is an expensive bit of kit and I am not using it enough to warrant spending another hundred or so pounds getting it to do what the OSTC does for free.

Both the OSTC guys and Ross provide superb S/W support.

I have had no issues with either computer.

Both have excellent battery life and the batteries can be replaced (an easier and cheaper proposition on the OSTC).

The X1 is heavier and more solid feeling than the OSTC. The X1 is depth rated to 300m - not sure that's useful to most people and certainly something I won't be testing anytime soon.

Both can do 3 cell reading via a H/W module. 60 euro's on the OSTC and 600 dollars on the X1. The X1 is plug and play and the OSTC requires a bit of knowledge to fit (not seen it in the flesh yet).

Both have the same excellent oLED display. I have yet to have them on my wrist side by side as I keep forgetting to pack my X1 but hopefully I can get some in water shots of them soon.

The OSTC comes with neoprene protective cases. The X1 kinda gives you the impression it doesn't want to be in a neoprene case.

The OSTC charges from USB and the x1 requires mains.

I find the OSTC is slightly more intuitive to use.

Technically the X1 is probably the better computer. It is not twice the computer or anything close to twice the computer yet it is over twice the price before you even add S/W.

brandonmc · 27th November 2008, 14:23

I must have missed something, what is the OSTC

Rob Dobson · 27th November 2008, 14:28

Quote: (Originally Posted by brandonmc)

I must have missed something, what is the OSTC

Open Source Trimix Computer. See here:

Deep Ideas Ltd

Rob Dobson · 27th November 2008, 14:31

And here:

OSTC, Shearwater Pursuit & X1 - Tecdivers - Technical Diving Forum

divecrazy · 27th November 2008, 14:57

Quote: (Originally Posted by Rob Dobson)

I own both and I dive both so here are some observations:

Firstly the OSTC is not trying to be an all encompassing dive computer. It is a platform for divers with good knowledge of deco theory who want complete transparency and full disclosure. In this respect it is not trying to compete with the likes of Delta-P. The X1 is sometimes described as an open source computer and the OSTC and the X1 use the same screen so I guess that they are similar enough to warrant comparision.

I find the OSTC is *much* easier to setup than the X1 because it has buttons. The X1 I was ready to throw out of the window before I ever got it wet thanks to the tapping thing. The same tap done the same way in the same place can have random responses. This drove me insane for hours and now I have finally got my mixes in it I don't ever want to touch it again. It is staying on 10/52 forever.

The X1 should be plugged into the mains all the time to preserve the battery life. It lives on my bedside table. My dive kit is in the garage. I usually remember my X1 just as I am loading the boat 3 hrs or so from home. My X1 doesn't see that much diving as a result.

I use the Shearwater for online GF Deco and the X1 is using VPM-B so the profiles don't match so before I got the OSTC and I was using a PPo2 backup which wasn't ideal. GAP is coming but do I want to buy more S/W for it? The X1 is an expensive bit of kit and I am not using it enough to warrant spending another hundred or so pounds getting it to do what the OSTC does for free.

Both the OSTC guys and Ross provide superb S/W support.

I have had no issues with either computer.

Both have excellent battery life and the batteries can be replaced (an easier and cheaper proposition on the OSTC).

The X1 is heavier and more solid feeling than the OSTC. The X1 is depth rated to 300m - not sure that's useful to most people and certainly something I won't be testing anytime soon.

Both can do 3 cell reading via a H/W module. 60 euro's on the OSTC and 600 dollars on the X1. The X1 is plug and play and the OSTC requires a bit of knowledge to fit (not seen it in the flesh yet).

Both have the same excellent oLED display. I have yet to have them on my wrist side by side as I keep forgetting to pack my X1 but hopefully I can get some in water shots of them soon.

The OSTC comes with neoprene protective cases. The X1 kinda gives you the impression it doesn't want to be in a neoprene case.

The OSTC charges from USB and the x1 requires mains.

I find the OSTC is slightly more intuitive to use.

Technically the X1 is probably the better computer. It is not twice the computer or anything close to twice the computer yet it is over twice the price before you even add S/W.

I have to agree with you on the tapping thing. I hate it realy badly on my rEvo Dreams and I'm sure I will hate it on my X1 that is on the way to me. Who ever got the idea? Unfortunately (and as it is with everything) some people will love it, so some people will produce it. But 100m on the OSTC?
100m realy? That is radicilous. This just prove what we as divers are willing to accept. Maybe there should be regulators that will only breath at 30m? I'm sure that some divers would say: "well, it's enough for me I don't dive deeper anyway". This is the reason why there are plenty of shit diving equpment incl. rebreathers on the market.
Best regards and safe diving
Milo

jkaterenchuk · 27th November 2008, 15:09

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dinspiration)

Hi

1) The first versions had a problem with the buttons. They started to stick at around 50 meters. All new versions have stronger springs and the buttons are working fine. BUT the unit is still rated to maximal 100 meters!!!

DINspiration

Is the 100m depth limitation imposed due to the type of sensor used? And if so does it use the same sensor as the X1 and SW and hence can be used deeper if understood that depth accuracy will not be guaranteed but has been shown to be a minor variance?

John

***jradomski*** · 27th November 2008, 15:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk)

The OSTC computer seems to be a nice unit and the price point is much better than the X1. There is no shortage of people singing the praise of the X1 but I would like to know about actual diver experiences with this computer. Questions like:

1) Has there been any use issues?
2) Is it user friendly on a dive?
3) Does the software have any limitations that are only apparent after buying and using it?
4) How does its deco compare to other GF computers (shearwater) and software (Gap)?
5) What add on software is available or in the works?
6) Is the wrist band as bad as the HSE and does it break easily?
7) What kind of battery life is apparent in real world use?
8) How responsive is the manufacturer?

John

John,
If you want to try my computer after I get back from egypt just give me a ring..

27th November 2008, 12:41	#1 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Join Date: May 2006 Location: PA Posts: 1,566	OSTC vs X1 The OSTC computer seems to be a nice unit and the price point is much better than the X1. There is no shortage of people singing the praise of the X1 but I would like to know about actual diver experiences with this computer. Questions like: 1) Has there been any use issues? 2) Is it user friendly on a dive? 3) Does the software have any limitations that are only apparent after buying and using it? 4) How does its deco compare to other GF computers (shearwater) and software (Gap)? 5) What add on software is available or in the works? 6) Is the wrist band as bad as the HSE and does it break easily? 7) What kind of battery life is apparent in real world use? 8) How responsive is the manufacturer? John
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27th November 2008, 12:52	#2 (permalink)
diverklondike Hammerhead CCR Current Rebreather/s: Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,999	Re: OSTC vs X1 John, I own an X1 and am a raving fan when it comes to the product as you can see from my comments below. I did have any oppertunity to dive a OSTC last year when we were in JB. It was Joe R's computer. One thing that I really like about the X1 over the OSTC is more due to the VPM-Live software. Ross has done a great job using the screen face with font sized etc. So it's not only the HW from Liquivision that makes a difference but you need to take into account the software provider. My responses below are based on the combination. Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk) The OSTC computer seems to be a nice unit and the price point is much better than the X1. There is no shortage of people singing the praise of the X1 but I would like to know about actual diver experiences with this computer. Questions like: 1) Has there been any use issues? ** I did have an issue with the display and the unit was quickly replaced* 2) Is it user friendly on a dive? * Very... It takes a dive or two to get used to the tapping but now it's a piece of cake.. 3) Does the software have any limitations that are only apparent after buying and using it? * Not that I have found. Further Ross has been very responsive in continueing to improve the SW. * 4) How does its deco compare to other GF computers (shearwater) and software (Gap)? * As mentioned I have VPM Live in my computer. I run it with settings of B/E +3 and have my HH set at 10/85 GF. I am very happy with the results. * 5) What add on software is available or in the works? * See above * 6) Is the wrist band as bad as the HSE and does it break easily? * Lol... The DS mount for it works fine.... * 7) What kind of battery life is apparent in real world use? * Hard to say... I charge it after every weekend of diving * 8) How responsive is the manufacturer? * Ross and Eric have been very responsive * John The main reason that I bought it is based on how easy it is to see at an angle... The fact that cell monitoring is ava is a huge plus!! Mark
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27th November 2008, 13:17	#3 (permalink)
Dinspiration Supporting Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Switzerland Posts: 247	Re: OSTC vs X1 Hi 1) The first versions had a problem with the buttons. They started to stick at around 50 meters. All new versions have stronger springs and the buttons are working fine. BUT the unit is still rated to maximal 100 meters!!! 2) It it is not bad, but a Shearwater Pursuit is much easier to use. The OSTC has a quite complex menu structure. I have to play around a bit more with setpoint switching, bailout profile and gas switch with the latest 1.22 firmware. You have around 36 custom settings, you can play around.... 3) The computer is an experimental platform. The firmware has some bugs and with each new version they are implementing some fixes and enhancements. The latest 1.22 firmware is the first one with real GF decompression and a working constant PPO2 decompression. The released version 1.22 is brand new and I did not use it for a dive so far. 4) Don't know - I did not use the computer with the beta versions of the 1.21 and 1.22 firmware. On the older versions the GF decompression was not fully implemented. On the older firmware the computer did not use all active gases for the TTS calculations. Just the current active gas was used to calculate the TTS and decompression. This was the case on the very first firmware versions and this is maybe not the case any more. 5) I don't know any other software except the JDivelog and Dive Log 4.0 software. 6) Wrist bands are looking like the ones from the "old" aladin computers. 7) I don't know - I only did some test dives with it and the battery life was never an issue. You can charge the battery with every USB charger or directly from your PC/Notebook. 8) I asked some questions about the unit within the manufacturers forum and got the answers very quick. The OSTC is a nice unit - but as the manufacturer is pointing out an experimental platform and with the limitation of 100 meters. I use it only as additional unit (= backup) and/or for some OC dives. Over all you can not compare an experimental computer with an X1 or Shearwater Pursuit. With an X1 or Shearwater Pursuit you have a fully working technical dive computer. And they are of course a bit more expensive than an OSTC. Compared to an Shearwater Pursuit the price difference is still there but not as high as to an X1. DINspiration
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27th November 2008, 13:30	#4 (permalink)
Rob Dobson RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oxford Posts: 172	Re: OSTC vs X1 Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk) The OSTC computer seems to be a nice unit and the price point is much better than the X1. There is no shortage of people singing the praise of the X1 but I would like to know about actual diver experiences with this computer. Questions like: 1) Has there been any use issues? 2) Is it user friendly on a dive? 3) Does the software have any limitations that are only apparent after buying and using it? 4) How does its deco compare to other GF computers (shearwater) and software (Gap)? 5) What add on software is available or in the works? 6) Is the wrist band as bad as the HSE and does it break easily? 7) What kind of battery life is apparent in real world use? 8) How responsive is the manufacturer? John I own both and I dive both so here are some observations: Firstly the OSTC is not trying to be an all encompassing dive computer. It is a platform for divers with good knowledge of deco theory who want complete transparency and full disclosure. In this respect it is not trying to compete with the likes of Delta-P. The X1 is sometimes described as an open source computer and the OSTC and the X1 use the same screen so I guess that they are similar enough to warrant comparision. I find the OSTC is much easier to setup than the X1 because it has buttons. The X1 I was ready to throw out of the window before I ever got it wet thanks to the tapping thing. The same tap done the same way in the same place can have random responses. This drove me insane for hours and now I have finally got my mixes in it I don't ever want to touch it again. It is staying on 10/52 forever. The X1 should be plugged into the mains all the time to preserve the battery life. It lives on my bedside table. My dive kit is in the garage. I usually remember my X1 just as I am loading the boat 3 hrs or so from home. My X1 doesn't see that much diving as a result. I use the Shearwater for online GF Deco and the X1 is using VPM-B so the profiles don't match so before I got the OSTC and I was using a PPo2 backup which wasn't ideal. GAP is coming but do I want to buy more S/W for it? The X1 is an expensive bit of kit and I am not using it enough to warrant spending another hundred or so pounds getting it to do what the OSTC does for free. Both the OSTC guys and Ross provide superb S/W support. I have had no issues with either computer. Both have excellent battery life and the batteries can be replaced (an easier and cheaper proposition on the OSTC). The X1 is heavier and more solid feeling than the OSTC. The X1 is depth rated to 300m - not sure that's useful to most people and certainly something I won't be testing anytime soon. Both can do 3 cell reading via a H/W module. 60 euro's on the OSTC and 600 dollars on the X1. The X1 is plug and play and the OSTC requires a bit of knowledge to fit (not seen it in the flesh yet). Both have the same excellent oLED display. I have yet to have them on my wrist side by side as I keep forgetting to pack my X1 but hopefully I can get some in water shots of them soon. The OSTC comes with neoprene protective cases. The X1 kinda gives you the impression it doesn't want to be in a neoprene case. The OSTC charges from USB and the x1 requires mains. I find the OSTC is slightly more intuitive to use. Technically the X1 is probably the better computer. It is not twice the computer or anything close to twice the computer yet it is over twice the price before you even add S/W.
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27th November 2008, 14:23	#5 (permalink)
brandonmc http://downtoolong.com Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 148	Re: OSTC vs X1 I must have missed something, what is the OSTC
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27th November 2008, 14:28	#6 (permalink)
Rob Dobson RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oxford Posts: 172	Re: OSTC vs X1 Quote: (Originally Posted by brandonmc) I must have missed something, what is the OSTC Open Source Trimix Computer. See here: Deep Ideas Ltd
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27th November 2008, 14:31	#7 (permalink)
Rob Dobson RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Oxford Posts: 172	Re: OSTC vs X1 And here: OSTC, Shearwater Pursuit & X1 - Tecdivers - Technical Diving Forum
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27th November 2008, 14:57	#8 (permalink)
divecrazy RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: thailand Posts: 73	Re: OSTC vs X1 Quote: (Originally Posted by Rob Dobson) I own both and I dive both so here are some observations: Firstly the OSTC is not trying to be an all encompassing dive computer. It is a platform for divers with good knowledge of deco theory who want complete transparency and full disclosure. In this respect it is not trying to compete with the likes of Delta-P. The X1 is sometimes described as an open source computer and the OSTC and the X1 use the same screen so I guess that they are similar enough to warrant comparision. I find the OSTC is much easier to setup than the X1 because it has buttons. The X1 I was ready to throw out of the window before I ever got it wet thanks to the tapping thing. The same tap done the same way in the same place can have random responses. This drove me insane for hours and now I have finally got my mixes in it I don't ever want to touch it again. It is staying on 10/52 forever. The X1 should be plugged into the mains all the time to preserve the battery life. It lives on my bedside table. My dive kit is in the garage. I usually remember my X1 just as I am loading the boat 3 hrs or so from home. My X1 doesn't see that much diving as a result. I use the Shearwater for online GF Deco and the X1 is using VPM-B so the profiles don't match so before I got the OSTC and I was using a PPo2 backup which wasn't ideal. GAP is coming but do I want to buy more S/W for it? The X1 is an expensive bit of kit and I am not using it enough to warrant spending another hundred or so pounds getting it to do what the OSTC does for free. Both the OSTC guys and Ross provide superb S/W support. I have had no issues with either computer. Both have excellent battery life and the batteries can be replaced (an easier and cheaper proposition on the OSTC). The X1 is heavier and more solid feeling than the OSTC. The X1 is depth rated to 300m - not sure that's useful to most people and certainly something I won't be testing anytime soon. Both can do 3 cell reading via a H/W module. 60 euro's on the OSTC and 600 dollars on the X1. The X1 is plug and play and the OSTC requires a bit of knowledge to fit (not seen it in the flesh yet). Both have the same excellent oLED display. I have yet to have them on my wrist side by side as I keep forgetting to pack my X1 but hopefully I can get some in water shots of them soon. The OSTC comes with neoprene protective cases. The X1 kinda gives you the impression it doesn't want to be in a neoprene case. The OSTC charges from USB and the x1 requires mains. I find the OSTC is slightly more intuitive to use. Technically the X1 is probably the better computer. It is not twice the computer or anything close to twice the computer yet it is over twice the price before you even add S/W. I have to agree with you on the tapping thing. I hate it realy badly on my rEvo Dreams and I'm sure I will hate it on my X1 that is on the way to me. Who ever got the idea? Unfortunately (and as it is with everything) some people will love it, so some people will produce it. But 100m on the OSTC? 100m realy? That is radicilous. This just prove what we as divers are willing to accept. Maybe there should be regulators that will only breath at 30m? I'm sure that some divers would say: "well, it's enough for me I don't dive deeper anyway". This is the reason why there are plenty of shit diving equpment incl. rebreathers on the market. Best regards and safe diving Milo
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27th November 2008, 15:09	#9 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Classic Kiss Join Date: May 2006 Location: PA Posts: 1,566	Re: OSTC vs X1 Quote: (Originally Posted by Dinspiration) Hi 1) The first versions had a problem with the buttons. They started to stick at around 50 meters. All new versions have stronger springs and the buttons are working fine. BUT the unit is still rated to maximal 100 meters!!! DINspiration Is the 100m depth limitation imposed due to the type of sensor used? And if so does it use the same sensor as the X1 and SW and hence can be used deeper if understood that depth accuracy will not be guaranteed but has been shown to be a minor variance? John
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27th November 2008, 15:10	#10 (permalink)
*jradomski* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Optima rEvo Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: "Da" Bronx Posts: 3,448	Re: OSTC vs X1 Quote: (Originally Posted by jkaterenchuk) The OSTC computer seems to be a nice unit and the price point is much better than the X1. There is no shortage of people singing the praise of the X1 but I would like to know about actual diver experiences with this computer. Questions like: 1) Has there been any use issues? 2) Is it user friendly on a dive? 3) Does the software have any limitations that are only apparent after buying and using it? 4) How does its deco compare to other GF computers (shearwater) and software (Gap)? 5) What add on software is available or in the works? 6) Is the wrist band as bad as the HSE and does it break easily? 7) What kind of battery life is apparent in real world use? 8) How responsive is the manufacturer? John John, If you want to try my computer after I get back from egypt just give me a ring.. __________________ Joe Radomski CCR Trimix Instructor Trainer ANDI Instructor Trainer Director #10 All posts are personal opinions and DO NOT reflect any affiliated agency unless specifically stated.
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