Vision Electronics V VR3

GoProHonduras · 15th November 2005, 04:50

Hi,

I was close to purchasing a VR3 with O2 sensor in the loop, for my Classic Inspiration recently but then held out due to a new software upgrade in the next few months.

However since then a friend mentioned that I should look into purchasing the new Vision Electronics, cost wise I may be better off, even if it costs more to get the complete new set up from AP.

Does anyone have an opinion, would it be better to go for the new Vision electronics or simply purchase the VR3 and add to my classic? Or is there any reason to justify both?

Are their any pro's or cons I should be aware of?

I look forward to some feed back.

Regards,
Andy

Karlos · 15th November 2005, 06:35

VR3 $3000 Australian
Vision Electronics $8000 Australian

You do the sums....

I have the same problem - Should I upgrade my Inspiration to Vision or stay on the old habd sets - they work absolutely fine and trust my old VR3 which is integrated. Another avenue you can take is to look at the Juergensen - Hammerhead - which comes in between the VR3 and Vision electronics price wise.

Cheers,
Karl

Mark Chase · 15th November 2005, 09:50

If i ran a vision i would also run the VR3 as back up. I would never trust one single computer to control my deco.

For me I would go HH and VR3 intigrated. Thats my plan for next year.

ATB

Mark Chase

***schford*** · 15th November 2005, 10:42

Good advice form Mark - I too would never trust a single computer.

I run my shearwater built in to my meg and a HS explorer not too mention planning my dive before hand and having a rough idea in my head - I klnow I should really do back up slates but....*shrugs*

Stuart

robprice · 15th November 2005, 10:44

Quote: (Originally Posted by Karlos)

I have the same problem - Should I upgrade my Inspiration to Vision or stay on the old habd sets - they work absolutely fine and trust my old VR3 which is integrated. Another avenue you can take is to look at the Juergensen - Hammerhead - which comes in between the VR3 and Vision electronics price wise.

Cheers,
Karl

I was thinking of upgrading to vison, but as Karl said it is a bit on the high side, I have gone for the new hammerhead wich will work along side my VR3 fine. It is worth looking at as a option.

Robprice

Pierre Farrugia · 15th November 2005, 11:06

Hello,

I went for the Classic YBOD due to being tried and tested, especially at depth. On an other note I been hearing too much bugs on the Vision! I can say that my Vr3 is here to stay as I does the Job and if I get a Vision one day, will still have the Vr3 as backup ! Also after Simon Tw Incident I will check more about getting a Vision.....only my opinion!

***caveseeker7*** · 15th November 2005, 13:31

Last I looked the Hammerhead was $3000, the VR3 tx/cc/O2 about $1500.
The Vision upgrade costs as much as both of those and you don't get to keep your old head as backup.

Biggest difference is the MO between the two, two setpoint controllers vs. one setpoint controller and independent dual pO2 monitor (HUD + secondary display). This is really a philosophical question, you either prefer one or the other.

The Vision offers web based upgrades, gives you the option of the TempStick, and has a very nice wrist display. It also features cell verification, and allows the profile to be downloaded.

The Hammerhead comes with a myriad of setting options, has the cell space for the VR3 build in, includes a dive timer on the secondary for table bailout, and adds the DIVA, an alarm you can't miss. In addition, it's powered by batteries located in the handsets.

GoProHonduras · 16th November 2005, 00:15

Thanks for some good feed back, currently I'm cutting tables with a Nitek He as back up, so have no intention of just relying on one deco source.

I think I'll research the Hammerhead more and it seems until the Vision is more tested go with the VR3 for now.

Thanks for the info guys, really appreciate it, when you live on a tiny island this board is a great source of information.

Regards,
Andy

15th November 2005, 04:50	#1 (permalink)
GoProHonduras Down in Honduras Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Utila, Bay Islands Posts: 21	Vision Electronics V VR3 Hi, I was close to purchasing a VR3 with O2 sensor in the loop, for my Classic Inspiration recently but then held out due to a new software upgrade in the next few months. However since then a friend mentioned that I should look into purchasing the new Vision Electronics, cost wise I may be better off, even if it costs more to get the complete new set up from AP. Does anyone have an opinion, would it be better to go for the new Vision electronics or simply purchase the VR3 and add to my classic? Or is there any reason to justify both? Are their any pro's or cons I should be aware of? I look forward to some feed back. Regards, Andy
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15th November 2005, 06:35	#2 (permalink)
Karlos New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 55	Re: Vision Electronics V VR3 VR3 $3000 Australian Vision Electronics $8000 Australian You do the sums.... I have the same problem - Should I upgrade my Inspiration to Vision or stay on the old habd sets - they work absolutely fine and trust my old VR3 which is integrated. Another avenue you can take is to look at the Juergensen - Hammerhead - which comes in between the VR3 and Vision electronics price wise. Cheers, Karl Last edited by Karlos : 15th November 2005 at 06:39.
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15th November 2005, 09:50	#3 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,856	Re: Vision Electronics V VR3 If i ran a vision i would also run the VR3 as back up. I would never trust one single computer to control my deco. For me I would go HH and VR3 intigrated. Thats my plan for next year. ATB Mark Chase __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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15th November 2005, 10:42	#4 (permalink)
*schford* RBW Founder Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: UK Posts: 3,564	Re: Vision Electronics V VR3 Good advice form Mark - I too would never trust a single computer. I run my shearwater built in to my meg and a HS explorer not too mention planning my dive before hand and having a rough idea in my head - I klnow I should really do back up slates but....shrugs Stuart __________________ Bailout and Kit Management account for Murphy's Law The only bad question is one you did not ask and later wish you had. Use of RBW is subject to the Rebreather World Terms & Conditions of Use
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15th November 2005, 10:44	#5 (permalink)
robprice Bob.P Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dubai Posts: 44	Re: Vision Electronics V VR3 Quote: (Originally Posted by Karlos) I have the same problem - Should I upgrade my Inspiration to Vision or stay on the old habd sets - they work absolutely fine and trust my old VR3 which is integrated. Another avenue you can take is to look at the Juergensen - Hammerhead - which comes in between the VR3 and Vision electronics price wise. Cheers, Karl I was thinking of upgrading to vison, but as Karl said it is a bit on the high side, I have gone for the new hammerhead wich will work along side my VR3 fine. It is worth looking at as a option. Robprice
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15th November 2005, 11:06	#6 (permalink)
Pierre Farrugia Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Malta Posts: 636	Re: Vision Electronics V VR3 Hello, I went for the Classic YBOD due to being tried and tested, especially at depth. On an other note I been hearing too much bugs on the Vision! I can say that my Vr3 is here to stay as I does the Job and if I get a Vision one day, will still have the Vr3 as backup ! Also after Simon Tw Incident I will check more about getting a Vision.....only my opinion! __________________ Pierre Farrugia My wife told me " If you don't quit diving I'm going to leave you" My reply " God, I'll miss you" www.atlam.org www.divemed.com
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15th November 2005, 13:31	#7 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,555	Re: Vision Electronics V VR3 Last I looked the Hammerhead was $3000, the VR3 tx/cc/O2 about $1500. The Vision upgrade costs as much as both of those and you don't get to keep your old head as backup. Biggest difference is the MO between the two, two setpoint controllers vs. one setpoint controller and independent dual pO2 monitor (HUD + secondary display). This is really a philosophical question, you either prefer one or the other. The Vision offers web based upgrades, gives you the option of the TempStick, and has a very nice wrist display. It also features cell verification, and allows the profile to be downloaded. The Hammerhead comes with a myriad of setting options, has the cell space for the VR3 build in, includes a dive timer on the secondary for table bailout, and adds the DIVA, an alarm you can't miss. In addition, it's powered by batteries located in the handsets. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!" Last edited by caveseeker7 : 15th November 2005 at 15:22. Reason: Add-ited Vision advantages ... and spelling
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16th November 2005, 00:15	#8 (permalink)
GoProHonduras Down in Honduras Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Utila, Bay Islands Posts: 21	Re: Vision Electronics V VR3 Thanks for some good feed back, currently I'm cutting tables with a Nitek He as back up, so have no intention of just relying on one deco source. I think I'll research the Hammerhead more and it seems until the Vision is more tested go with the VR3 for now. Thanks for the info guys, really appreciate it, when you live on a tiny island this board is a great source of information. Regards, Andy
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