X1 users? GAP or v-planner live?

Tienuts · 5th June 2008, 16:36

Hi Guys,

Just made the transition to the Liquidvision X1. Now I'm trying to decide if I should get GAP software or Vplanner live. I wanted to get some pros and cons of each software from those using it.

I like v-planner, but was leaning twords GAP as it should jive with my hammerhead better. Any opinions on which to use? Pro's and cons of the software you use?

Thanks.

jkaterenchuk · 5th June 2008, 18:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by Tienuts)

Hi Guys,

Just made the transition to the Liquidvision X1. Now I'm trying to decide if I should get GAP software or Vplanner live. I wanted to get some pros and cons of each software from those using it.

I like v-planner, but was leaning twords GAP as it should jive with my hammerhead better. Any opinions on which to use? Pro's and cons of the software you use?

Thanks.

Tony

I use the ANDI version of GAP and yes it does track the HH but not exactly. I have also used V-Planner but never checked how closely it tracked the HH but I would suspect not as closely as GAP. I found both software equally easy to use.

Hope that helps.

John

Twain · 5th June 2008, 23:33

I use V-Planner Live. Can't speak to the GAP software as I haven't seen it or used it.

I like the VPL quite a bit. Well-designed interface, and being a software product manager I'm a harsh critic. In my mind this is the most important feature (after reliability and accuracy, if you consider those features). I like a lot the fact that it matches VP's desktop software. Over-the-net updates have been smooth.

Drawbacks, and I can't speak to whether GAP can do these:
* No pre-dive planning, just simulation
* Log parser is a bit rudimentary and not Mac compatible
* License is separate from VP desktop version

Again I haven't seen the GAP software but I wouldn't hesitate to get VPL again. I've been incredibly impressed.

Hope that helps.

Hanssing · 6th June 2008, 08:59

Quote: (Originally Posted by Tienuts)

Hi Guys,

Just made the transition to the Liquidvision X1. Now I'm trying to decide if I should get GAP software or Vplanner live. I wanted to get some pros and cons of each software from those using it.

I like v-planner, but was leaning twords GAP as it should jive with my hammerhead better. Any opinions on which to use? Pro's and cons of the software you use?

Thanks.

I've used both GAP and V-planner on desktop PCs. And I found far more stupid GUI-bugs in GAP, and liked V-planner more. So my trust in the software would be greater for V-planner.

Besides I like the VPM-deco algorithm, so for me I went with V-planner live. Worked well so for except a minor skinbend on sundays dives - wich I'm sure I my stupid physiologi (checked with GAP and V-planner on max conservatism, and nothing in the profile.....).

Regarding diving with 'X1' + 'V-planner Live' I can only say it rocks!

Nicolai

depth · 6th June 2008, 09:17

Quote: (Originally Posted by Twain)

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* No pre-dive planning, just simulation

Eric from Liquivision is working on this feature!

/Christian

Tienuts · 6th June 2008, 14:14

Thanks for the help guys - I went with V-planner live. Can't wait to get in the water with it this weekend.

edasque · 6th June 2008, 14:26

But when is the cable coming out for external PO2 ?

Liquid G · 18th June 2008, 20:14

at this point I have 3 x1 units, 2 with vplanner and one with gap.
The v planner is more stable at this point and works well now switching between bailout and oc. when it comes to how the interface displays underwater it is a more difficult one. Vplanner delivers big graphics mode and can rotate a lot of info on the dive screen.

also because gap is still in beta testing there is no manual out yet but v planner has one available. The good news is both the guys behind the product, Kees and Ross are very responsive to requests and improvizing. I think their succes will make this computer the clear winner above vr3!

Personally I prefer the Vplanner at this point as the bail out options are restricted on gap at this point.

5th June 2008, 16:36	#1 (permalink)
Tienuts Chief Prankster Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 299	X1 users? GAP or v-planner live? Hi Guys, Just made the transition to the Liquidvision X1. Now I'm trying to decide if I should get GAP software or Vplanner live. I wanted to get some pros and cons of each software from those using it. I like v-planner, but was leaning twords GAP as it should jive with my hammerhead better. Any opinions on which to use? Pro's and cons of the software you use? Thanks.
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5th June 2008, 18:41	#2 (permalink)
jkaterenchuk . Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lititz, PA Posts: 1,086	Re: X1 users? GAP or v-planner live? Quote: (Originally Posted by Tienuts) Hi Guys, Just made the transition to the Liquidvision X1. Now I'm trying to decide if I should get GAP software or Vplanner live. I wanted to get some pros and cons of each software from those using it. I like v-planner, but was leaning twords GAP as it should jive with my hammerhead better. Any opinions on which to use? Pro's and cons of the software you use? Thanks. Tony I use the ANDI version of GAP and yes it does track the HH but not exactly. I have also used V-Planner but never checked how closely it tracked the HH but I would suspect not as closely as GAP. I found both software equally easy to use. Hope that helps. John
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5th June 2008, 23:33	#3 (permalink)
Twain New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Boston Posts: 31	Re: X1 users? GAP or v-planner live? I use V-Planner Live. Can't speak to the GAP software as I haven't seen it or used it. I like the VPL quite a bit. Well-designed interface, and being a software product manager I'm a harsh critic. In my mind this is the most important feature (after reliability and accuracy, if you consider those features). I like a lot the fact that it matches VP's desktop software. Over-the-net updates have been smooth. Drawbacks, and I can't speak to whether GAP can do these: * No pre-dive planning, just simulation * Log parser is a bit rudimentary and not Mac compatible * License is separate from VP desktop version Again I haven't seen the GAP software but I wouldn't hesitate to get VPL again. I've been incredibly impressed. Hope that helps.
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6th June 2008, 08:59	#4 (permalink)
Hanssing flap-flop ..... flap-flop Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 430	Re: X1 users? GAP or v-planner live? Quote: (Originally Posted by Tienuts) Hi Guys, Just made the transition to the Liquidvision X1. Now I'm trying to decide if I should get GAP software or Vplanner live. I wanted to get some pros and cons of each software from those using it. I like v-planner, but was leaning twords GAP as it should jive with my hammerhead better. Any opinions on which to use? Pro's and cons of the software you use? Thanks. I've used both GAP and V-planner on desktop PCs. And I found far more stupid GUI-bugs in GAP, and liked V-planner more. So my trust in the software would be greater for V-planner. Besides I like the VPM-deco algorithm, so for me I went with V-planner live. Worked well so for except a minor skinbend on sundays dives - wich I'm sure I my stupid physiologi (checked with GAP and V-planner on max conservatism, and nothing in the profile.....). Regarding diving with 'X1' + 'V-planner Live' I can only say it rocks! Nicolai __________________ Woohooo - I can change my rEvo! Its going to be bitchin' tricked out piece of gear
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6th June 2008, 09:17	#5 (permalink)
depth Christian Rasmussen Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Not Bought Yet Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 237	Re: X1 users? GAP or v-planner live? Quote: (Originally Posted by Twain) I * No pre-dive planning, just simulation Eric from Liquivision is working on this feature! /Christian __________________ I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not qualified to make my own meg batteries!!! I am not.............
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6th June 2008, 14:14	#6 (permalink)
Tienuts Chief Prankster Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 299	Re: X1 users? GAP or v-planner live? Thanks for the help guys - I went with V-planner live. Can't wait to get in the water with it this weekend.
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6th June 2008, 14:26	#7 (permalink)
edasque French Erik Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 326	Re: X1 users? GAP or v-planner live? But when is the cable coming out for external PO2 ?
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18th June 2008, 20:14	#8 (permalink)
Liquid G RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other CCR Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Optima Other CCR Dolphin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: johannesburg Posts: 12	Re: X1 users? GAP or v-planner live? at this point I have 3 x1 units, 2 with vplanner and one with gap. The v planner is more stable at this point and works well now switching between bailout and oc. when it comes to how the interface displays underwater it is a more difficult one. Vplanner delivers big graphics mode and can rotate a lot of info on the dive screen. also because gap is still in beta testing there is no manual out yet but v planner has one available. The good news is both the guys behind the product, Kees and Ross are very responsive to requests and improvizing. I think their succes will make this computer the clear winner above vr3! Personally I prefer the Vplanner at this point as the bail out options are restricted on gap at this point.
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