Shearwater Batteries

jkeep · 18th May 2008, 09:34

Hi,
My battery has gone in my shearwater persuit.
i,m in the UK, do I just ask for a AA 3.6v lithium
battery at my local electronics shop.

Regards,

Jeff

divetheworld · 18th May 2008, 14:08

Watch out for "equivelant" batteries, they are not all equivelants.
The SAFT LS-14500 is the right one and has a current discharge rate of 130mA. The LST-14500 has only 45mA. the LS-14500C has only 25mA. Maplin sell a Maxell ER6-C which is a 3.6v AA battery and list it as an equivelant (Maplin > ER6C Lithium Cell) but this has a current discharge of 100uA.
Selecting the wrong one will cause problems. Only use the correct battery as indicated by the manufacturer unless you are sure of the equivelancy.
Some functions of the handset can pull a large amount of current, such as the alarm screen indication which can exceed the maximum recommended continuous current of the wrong cell.

In addition to the electrical performance and characteristics of the cells, the SAFT has additional qualities that puts it on our "approved list";
Stainless steel container and end caps (low magnetic signature)
Hermetic glass-to-metal sealing
Non-flammable electrolyte
Low self-discharge rate
Compliant with EN 50020 intrinsic safety standard

We have spent a lot of time in testing a number of cells in our products and only recommend the LS-14500.

We have included the battery specification in the updated Pursuit manual which can be downloaded here -> Deep Pursuit rebreather controller

We hope this helps users to understand the reason this manufacturer has chosen their power supply.

Brent

You can buy the SAFT LS14500 from RS Components or LS14500 AA Lithium Battery

lizardland · 18th May 2008, 22:04

I've had the Maplin lithium cell in my GF since January, no problems with it, even when the alarm screens have been flashing away... before I realised you could switch them off

That's not to say I won't have problems, but so far everything has been fine. I leave the backlight on usually as well, though just on the minimum setting.

narked at 90 · 18th May 2008, 22:29

you might be OK but remember the pursuit is a different computer from the GF!
the batterys we have specified are Superior to most if not all others on the market, they are the ones that have been tested and found to be the best by a long shot, so i guess you make your decision pay your money and take your chances..
the saft batterys are the ones to go for!!
kind regards john routley

Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland)

I've had the Maplin lithium cell in my GF since January, no problems with it, even when the alarm screens have been flashing away... before I realised you could switch them off

That's not to say I won't have problems, but so far everything has been fine. I leave the backlight on usually as well, though just on the minimum setting.

**Gill Envy** · 19th May 2008, 01:23

for those in the US, the saft battery is not easy to find. The only carrier I found other than On-line was Radio Shack. On-line is much cheeper of course, but if you need one ASAP, then Radio Shack should do the job.

bgpartri · 19th May 2008, 19:32

In every city I've looked, there is a specialty battery place that has them.

These are the guys that make replacement batteries for drills and out of production rechargables. It's a substantial market. There are least two in Vancouver that I found pretty easily.

If you buy 4 or 5 at a time, they will usually give you a price break. Lithiums have a shelf life of several years.

They often have very competitive replacement batteries for lights too.

There are lots of internet sellers too:
Saft LS14500 3.6 volt AA Lithium Battery

Bruce

sunkmail · 19th July 2008, 07:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by bgpartri)

In every city I've looked, there is a specialty battery place that has them.

These are the guys that make replacement batteries for drills and out of production rechargables. It's a substantial market. There are least two in Vancouver that I found pretty easily.

Would you care to share the Vancouver sources?

I think I'm having a battery issue - on my last dive, I got a battery warning, but only at depth, as we got closer to the surface, it warmed significantly and the warning went away - I'm assuming it's the temp that made the difference. Any other ideas?

EDIT - I forgot to add this part .... The unit now doesn't get past the splash screen - I see the normal operation screen for a fraction of a second before the unit turns itself off! It has been sitting for about a week since my last dives (with the battery warning) turned off.

(I've got Version 48 installed)

Thanks!

Mark Chase · 19th July 2008, 09:42

Quote: (Originally Posted by bgpartri)

In every city I've looked, there is a specialty battery place that has them.

These are the guys that make replacement batteries for drills and out of production rechargables. It's a substantial market. There are least two in Vancouver that I found pretty easily.

If you buy 4 or 5 at a time, they will usually give you a price break. Lithiums have a shelf life of several years.

They often have very competitive replacement batteries for lights too.

There are lots of internet sellers too:
Saft LS14500 3.6 volt AA Lithium Battery

Bruce

Hi Bruce

How bout putting up the Link for the UK as well?

Id put up the links as a permanent feature on your site. I really struggled to get the Safts and ended up getting them from America.

ATB

Mark

Stephane · 19th July 2008, 10:34

I have bought some Saft LS14500 batteries for my HH from an Ebay store, MDBattery.
Cheap and fast overseas shipping

divetheworld · 20th July 2008, 15:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

Hi Bruce

How bout putting up the Link for the UK as well?

Id put up the links as a permanent feature on your site. I really struggled to get the Safts and ended up getting them from America.

ATB

Mark

Here's one.

LS14500 AA Lithium Battery

Brent

18th May 2008, 09:34	#1 (permalink)
jkeep New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Megalodon Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 68	Shearwater Batteries Hi, My battery has gone in my shearwater persuit. i,m in the UK, do I just ask for a AA 3.6v lithium battery at my local electronics shop. Regards, Jeff __________________ Practice, Practice, Practice And Become A Master Of Technique .............
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divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,636	Re: Shearwater Batteries Watch out for "equivelant" batteries, they are not all equivelants. The SAFT LS-14500 is the right one and has a current discharge rate of 130mA. The LST-14500 has only 45mA. the LS-14500C has only 25mA. Maplin sell a Maxell ER6-C which is a 3.6v AA battery and list it as an equivelant (Maplin > ER6C Lithium Cell) but this has a current discharge of 100uA. Selecting the wrong one will cause problems. Only use the correct battery as indicated by the manufacturer unless you are sure of the equivelancy. Some functions of the handset can pull a large amount of current, such as the alarm screen indication which can exceed the maximum recommended continuous current of the wrong cell. In addition to the electrical performance and characteristics of the cells, the SAFT has additional qualities that puts it on our "approved list"; Stainless steel container and end caps (low magnetic signature) Hermetic glass-to-metal sealing Non-flammable electrolyte Low self-discharge rate Compliant with EN 50020 intrinsic safety standard We have spent a lot of time in testing a number of cells in our products and only recommend the LS-14500. We have included the battery specification in the updated Pursuit manual which can be downloaded here -> Deep Pursuit rebreather controller We hope this helps users to understand the reason this manufacturer has chosen their power supply. Brent You can buy the SAFT LS14500 from RS Components or LS14500 AA Lithium Battery __________________ Attitude and self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe Last edited by divetheworld : 18th May 2008 at 15:58.
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lizardland Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North... Posts: 1,383	Re: Shearwater Batteries I've had the Maplin lithium cell in my GF since January, no problems with it, even when the alarm screens have been flashing away... before I realised you could switch them off That's not to say I won't have problems, but so far everything has been fine. I leave the backlight on usually as well, though just on the minimum setting. __________________ Can you imagine drifting along in the sea with your mouth open and a load of f***ing plankton going in? You'd like it, would you? www.westons-cider.co.uk Azerbaijani Association of Technical Divers Publicity Officer and Goat Wrangler
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18th May 2008, 22:29	#4 (permalink)
narked at 90 John Routley Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlands uk Posts: 1,073	Re: Shearwater Batteries you might be OK but remember the pursuit is a different computer from the GF! the batterys we have specified are Superior to most if not all others on the market, they are the ones that have been tested and found to be the best by a long shot, so i guess you make your decision pay your money and take your chances.. the saft batterys are the ones to go for!! kind regards john routley Quote: (Originally Posted by lizardland) I've had the Maplin lithium cell in my GF since January, no problems with it, even when the alarm screens have been flashing away... before I realised you could switch them off That's not to say I won't have problems, but so far everything has been fine. I leave the backlight on usually as well, though just on the minimum setting. __________________ *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe Narked at 90 Go Military
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19th May 2008, 01:23	#5 (permalink)
Gill Envy Shearwater Copis Divers Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: seattle Posts: 1,347	Re: Shearwater Batteries for those in the US, the saft battery is not easy to find. The only carrier I found other than On-line was Radio Shack. On-line is much cheeper of course, but if you need one ASAP, then Radio Shack should do the job. __________________ Gill Envy ...Because I wasn't born with gills! ><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>
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19th May 2008, 19:32	#6 (permalink)
bgpartri CEO-Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Titan Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 423	Re: Shearwater Batteries In every city I've looked, there is a specialty battery place that has them. These are the guys that make replacement batteries for drills and out of production rechargables. It's a substantial market. There are least two in Vancouver that I found pretty easily. If you buy 4 or 5 at a time, they will usually give you a price break. Lithiums have a shelf life of several years. They often have very competitive replacement batteries for lights too. There are lots of internet sellers too: Saft LS14500 3.6 volt AA Lithium Battery Bruce __________________ http://www.shearwaterresearch.com Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment.
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19th July 2008, 07:25	#7 (permalink)
sunkmail New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: North Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 40	Re: Shearwater Batteries Quote: (Originally Posted by bgpartri) In every city I've looked, there is a specialty battery place that has them. These are the guys that make replacement batteries for drills and out of production rechargables. It's a substantial market. There are least two in Vancouver that I found pretty easily. Would you care to share the Vancouver sources? I think I'm having a battery issue - on my last dive, I got a battery warning, but only at depth, as we got closer to the surface, it warmed significantly and the warning went away - I'm assuming it's the temp that made the difference. Any other ideas? EDIT - I forgot to add this part .... The unit now doesn't get past the splash screen - I see the normal operation screen for a fraction of a second before the unit turns itself off! It has been sitting for about a week since my last dives (with the battery warning) turned off. (I've got Version 48 installed) Thanks! Last edited by sunkmail : 19th July 2008 at 10:13.
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19th July 2008, 09:42	#8 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,854	Re: Shearwater Batteries Quote: (Originally Posted by bgpartri) In every city I've looked, there is a specialty battery place that has them. These are the guys that make replacement batteries for drills and out of production rechargables. It's a substantial market. There are least two in Vancouver that I found pretty easily. If you buy 4 or 5 at a time, they will usually give you a price break. Lithiums have a shelf life of several years. They often have very competitive replacement batteries for lights too. There are lots of internet sellers too: Saft LS14500 3.6 volt AA Lithium Battery Bruce Hi Bruce How bout putting up the Link for the UK as well? Id put up the links as a permanent feature on your site. I really struggled to get the Safts and ended up getting them from America. ATB Mark __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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Stephane Stéphane Acounis Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nantes - France Posts: 788	Re: Shearwater Batteries I have bought some Saft LS14500 batteries for my HH from an Ebay store, MDBattery. Cheap and fast overseas shipping __________________ Stéphane
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divetheworld Dive porn pimp Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Classic Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 1,636	Re: Shearwater Batteries Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) Hi Bruce How bout putting up the Link for the UK as well? Id put up the links as a permanent feature on your site. I really struggled to get the Safts and ended up getting them from America. ATB Mark Here's one. LS14500 AA Lithium Battery Brent __________________ Attitude and self praise is no reccomendation. Dont try to be a great man, just be a man and let history be the judge of you. *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *http://www.grpservices.com/pursuit/* Supporting Shearwater Research Products in Europe
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