Continuous VR3 Issue

colinj · 13th April 2008, 23:31

Anyone had their VR3 simply refuse to fire up? This is the third time it has happened within the last six months or so (it is treated like a baby). Been back to Delta P twice (3 times now Including yesterdays trip). I'd love to think this is battery related but I have only had them changed by reputable dealer (Inc Delta P) up to now. There were maybe 4 dives between the last failures so I doubt this is the issue, but who knows? Any ideas????

silentscuba · 14th April 2008, 01:33

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinj)

Anyone had their VR3 simply refuse to fire up? This is the third time it has happened within the last six months or so (it is treated like a baby). Been back to Delta P twice (3 times now Including yesterdays trip). I'd love to think this is battery related but I have only had them changed by reputable dealer (Inc Delta P) up to now. There were maybe 4 dives between the last failures so I doubt this is the issue, but who knows? Any ideas????

Yes, buy a Shearwater Pursuit

Lancer4545 · 14th April 2008, 01:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by silentscuba)

Yes, buy a Shearwater Pursuit

Now that's helpful...Isn't it!!!

Lance

Andy Del · 14th April 2008, 03:30

Or you can buy my VR3, it hasn't had to go back to mother's for at least 6 months now, and it on its second battery since that little holiday.

At least it will 'work'.

My solution was the same as Curt's - but a Shearwater.

osiris · 14th April 2008, 03:37

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinj)

Anyone had their VR3 simply refuse to fire up? This is the third time it has happened within the last six months or so (it is treated like a baby). Been back to Delta P twice (3 times now Including yesterdays trip). I'd love to think this is battery related but I have only had them changed by reputable dealer (Inc Delta P) up to now. There were maybe 4 dives between the last failures so I doubt this is the issue, but who knows? Any ideas????

Hi, I had something like this happen with both my VR3s - only once each though. On one occasion, I blieve it might have been corrosion in the IO port. On the other, I had been reviewing my log and for the some reason, it failed to turn off and a few hours later when I came back to it, the screen was flashing strange hyroglyphics. In both instances the cure was the same - take the battery out and leave for at least half an hour. Then when I put the battery back in they started fine. Down side - you lose you dives except one (wierd that), you need to reset date and time, and you lose all your gases (not sure if anyting else is lost though). Anything that is "pinned" remains (your personal info, unlock PINS etc). At least that is what I found and they have worked just fine since. I have expeirenced this once on each VR3. (it's not MS WIndows

but very Windows-like behaviour that's for sure. Hope this helped....

gbmay · 14th April 2008, 06:28

A few suggestions:
1. Make sure you are using a fresh battery. I prefer the 3.6v batteries they seem to last a long time.
2. Clean the battery contacts real well.
3. Observe the correct polarity - obvious right
4. Make sure your push buttons are free to move in/out. Sometimes they may get stuck and prevent the unit from starting. You can take them apart and lube them.

I hope this helps.

colinj · 14th April 2008, 10:48

Guys, Thanks a bunch for the help, 'cause it is the third instance it has gone back to DP (again)

so I am hoping to get something concrete back from them. The unit is looked after very well and was seen to turn off properly after the last dive a month ago and not been turned on since. Just wondering if I am doing anything daft, all buttons move freely, no sign of corrosion (without delving into it, which I don't do) I actually would buy the deep persuit head for the my inspo if i had the spare 2K as I've had the usual handset issues there too. Not been the best of years equipment wise!

swadiver · 14th April 2008, 10:59

if you are using AA batteries most will need the plastic wrap trimmed from the negative side towards the middle of the battery for it to make proper contact

Lancer4545 · 14th April 2008, 11:07

Hey Colin,

Generally the VR computers are a good reliable computer but like anything mechanical or electronic sometimes you'll get one that's to "Gremlins" I am sure Delta P will take care of it if you have to send it back.

It sounds as tho you are doing everything OK as there is not really a lot you can do other than wash, clean and dry it off properly after diving.

There can be a bit of an issue with water getting into the fischer connector and I personally use metal caps instead of the dodgey plastic ones. You can get them from Narked@90 and are not expensive. But if you see any green/blue discolouration on the pins you have a water/corrosion issue and should talk to Delta P about how to remedy it.

The only other thing is to always check the orings for damage and lube the battery compartment cover orings with a little silicone grease before replacing the cap. I prefer the 3.6v Lithium batteries as they last much longer than the alkaline ones.

Regards,

Lance

colinj · 14th April 2008, 11:46

How long (daft question, rough answers accepted with thanks!) do these last on Lithium batteries as i am using standard AA so far, average dive 30-50mins currently, backlight only on button press. Maybe this is the issue and I am expecting too much?

13th April 2008, 23:31	#1 (permalink)
colinj New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Uttoxeter Posts: 68	Continuous VR3 Issue Anyone had their VR3 simply refuse to fire up? This is the third time it has happened within the last six months or so (it is treated like a baby). Been back to Delta P twice (3 times now Including yesterdays trip). I'd love to think this is battery related but I have only had them changed by reputable dealer (Inc Delta P) up to now. There were maybe 4 dives between the last failures so I doubt this is the issue, but who knows? Any ideas????
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14th April 2008, 01:33	#2 (permalink)
silentscuba rEvo CCR Driver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic rEvo Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA USA Posts: 568	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue Quote: (Originally Posted by colinj) Anyone had their VR3 simply refuse to fire up? This is the third time it has happened within the last six months or so (it is treated like a baby). Been back to Delta P twice (3 times now Including yesterdays trip). I'd love to think this is battery related but I have only had them changed by reputable dealer (Inc Delta P) up to now. There were maybe 4 dives between the last failures so I doubt this is the issue, but who knows? Any ideas???? Yes, buy a Shearwater Pursuit __________________ Curt McNamee rEvo CCR Diver KISS CCR Diver www.silentscuba.com
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14th April 2008, 01:38	#3 (permalink)
Lancer4545 Closed Circuit Divers Aus Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cairns QLD Australia Posts: 574	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue Quote: (Originally Posted by silentscuba) Yes, buy a Shearwater Pursuit Now that's helpful...Isn't it!!! Lance __________________ You can run but you can't hide! ISC Appointed Megalodon Dealer for East Australia http://www.closedcircuitdivers.com.au info@closedcircuitdivers.com.au
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14th April 2008, 03:30	#4 (permalink)
Andy Del Classic KISSer Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Australia, Sunny Sydney Posts: 391	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue Or you can buy my VR3, it hasn't had to go back to mother's for at least 6 months now, and it on its second battery since that little holiday. At least it will 'work'. My solution was the same as Curt's - but a Shearwater. __________________ Yellow - the colour of greatness! Last edited by Andy Del : 14th April 2008 at 03:31. Reason: I can't spell, or evenremember f7...
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14th April 2008, 03:37	#5 (permalink)
osiris Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland Posts: 230	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue Quote: (Originally Posted by colinj) Anyone had their VR3 simply refuse to fire up? This is the third time it has happened within the last six months or so (it is treated like a baby). Been back to Delta P twice (3 times now Including yesterdays trip). I'd love to think this is battery related but I have only had them changed by reputable dealer (Inc Delta P) up to now. There were maybe 4 dives between the last failures so I doubt this is the issue, but who knows? Any ideas???? Hi, I had something like this happen with both my VR3s - only once each though. On one occasion, I blieve it might have been corrosion in the IO port. On the other, I had been reviewing my log and for the some reason, it failed to turn off and a few hours later when I came back to it, the screen was flashing strange hyroglyphics. In both instances the cure was the same - take the battery out and leave for at least half an hour. Then when I put the battery back in they started fine. Down side - you lose you dives except one (wierd that), you need to reset date and time, and you lose all your gases (not sure if anyting else is lost though). Anything that is "pinned" remains (your personal info, unlock PINS etc). At least that is what I found and they have worked just fine since. I have expeirenced this once on each VR3. (it's not MS WIndows but very Windows-like behaviour that's for sure. Hope this helped....
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14th April 2008, 06:28	#6 (permalink)
gbmay New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Pelagian Dolphin Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Pelagian Dolphin Azimuth Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Philippines Posts: 17	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue A few suggestions: 1. Make sure you are using a fresh battery. I prefer the 3.6v batteries they seem to last a long time. 2. Clean the battery contacts real well. 3. Observe the correct polarity - obvious right 4. Make sure your push buttons are free to move in/out. Sometimes they may get stuck and prevent the unit from starting. You can take them apart and lube them. I hope this helps.
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14th April 2008, 10:48	#7 (permalink)
colinj New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Uttoxeter Posts: 68	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue Guys, Thanks a bunch for the help, 'cause it is the third instance it has gone back to DP (again) so I am hoping to get something concrete back from them. The unit is looked after very well and was seen to turn off properly after the last dive a month ago and not been turned on since. Just wondering if I am doing anything daft, all buttons move freely, no sign of corrosion (without delving into it, which I don't do) I actually would buy the deep persuit head for the my inspo if i had the spare 2K as I've had the usual handset issues there too. Not been the best of years equipment wise!
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swadiver New Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2006 Location: southeast florida Posts: 75	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue if you are using AA batteries most will need the plastic wrap trimmed from the negative side towards the middle of the battery for it to make proper contact
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14th April 2008, 11:07	#9 (permalink)
Lancer4545 Closed Circuit Divers Aus Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cairns QLD Australia Posts: 574	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue Hey Colin, Generally the VR computers are a good reliable computer but like anything mechanical or electronic sometimes you'll get one that's to "Gremlins" I am sure Delta P will take care of it if you have to send it back. It sounds as tho you are doing everything OK as there is not really a lot you can do other than wash, clean and dry it off properly after diving. There can be a bit of an issue with water getting into the fischer connector and I personally use metal caps instead of the dodgey plastic ones. You can get them from Narked@90 and are not expensive. But if you see any green/blue discolouration on the pins you have a water/corrosion issue and should talk to Delta P about how to remedy it. The only other thing is to always check the orings for damage and lube the battery compartment cover orings with a little silicone grease before replacing the cap. I prefer the 3.6v Lithium batteries as they last much longer than the alkaline ones. Regards, Lance __________________ You can run but you can't hide! ISC Appointed Megalodon Dealer for East Australia http://www.closedcircuitdivers.com.au info@closedcircuitdivers.com.au
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14th April 2008, 11:46	#10 (permalink)
colinj New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Uttoxeter Posts: 68	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue How long (daft question, rough answers accepted with thanks!) do these last on Lithium batteries as i am using standard AA so far, average dive 30-50mins currently, backlight only on button press. Maybe this is the issue and I am expecting too much?
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