Continuous VR3 Issue

osiris · 24th April 2008, 08:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinj)

How long (daft question, rough answers accepted with thanks!) do these last on Lithium batteries as i am using standard AA so far, average dive 30-50mins currently, backlight only on button press. Maybe this is the issue and I am expecting too much?

I use Kodak digital camera batteries exclusively and change them every three months or whn voltage drops to 1.5V which ever occurs first. I can't gte Lithium 3.6's easily but never had a problem witht he Kodaks - ordinary AA batteries expire quite quickly and I recall the two issues I had were using ordinary AAs. For what it's worth....

Drmike · 25th April 2008, 02:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by colinj)

How long (daft question, rough answers accepted with thanks!) do these last on Lithium batteries as i am using standard AA so far, average dive 30-50mins currently, backlight only on button press. Maybe this is the issue and I am expecting too much?

Lets put it this way, Im currently planning an 8hr dive to 150m depth. I will happily start the dive with new decent quality 1.6v Alcaline batteries in my VR3s. I use Energisers or Duracell. If you try to save a few bucks and use cheap batteries you will get less life

With a Lithium 3.6v battery you should get up to 100hours use (depending on how much you use back light)

Check bottom of page here:- VR3 Dive computer

colinj · 25th April 2008, 08:51

Mike, Stay safe! You obviously trust your VR3 completely! I am looking forward to seeing the difference with the 3.5v battery on mine. Just to streighten this out a little, the first time the screen blanked on me as the battery was fairly new and I had put it in myself, I sent the thing back to DP, they returned it with a new battery in, it blanked again within 3 dives or so, the next time it went back it again had a new battery. Each time it has had a battery after failure 1, it has been one fitted and chosen by DP. I have now ASKED for a 3.5v battery to be fitted by DP. I have no issue with DP's service at all, just wonder why I wasn't asked if I wanted 3.5v to begin with?

Brainx3 · 25th April 2008, 09:08

Hi,

I have sent my VR3 to DP last December for some upgrades and when I got it back it came with 3.6v Lithium battery. Maybe it would be the best to ask DP why sometimes the units come with different types of batteries from them.

Best Regards. Wael

colinj · 25th April 2008, 09:16

I pick it up tomorrow and will dive it too, I will let you know what is said when I get back.

colinj · 26th April 2008, 17:29

OK, Ask yourself, how impressed would you be now?
I get to the Cove, there's the VR3, working fine, bill; £40 for a 3.6v Lithium battery, a new battery cap ("replace that every ten battery changes"....or in my case every 30 dives or so!) and the cap tool, OK, I can deal with that, what was wrong with it? anything? where's the report? "Oh there is no report just the bill!"..........?

DP, it's on its' way back to you............

Brainx3 · 26th April 2008, 17:35

Hi,

So you are saying it didn't work as well? Please share a bit more.

Best Regards. Wael

colinj · 26th April 2008, 18:24

No, I did say in the last post it seemed to be working fine on the surface (in the shop) but I want to know they have properly tested it and that it has passed the tests they have done. I would like to be told how it was tested and with what aim? Anyone could put a new battery in it and if it turns on, play with the buttons and say there is nothing wrong with it, that doesn't prove anything!
I didn't expect to just get billed and fobbed off, this has happened three times back to back, if most people are getting alot longer than I am from their batteries (even 1.5v alkaline), either I am doing something wrong, mistaken, or the unit has a fault, how can I trust this unit moving into longer deco until I know? By the by, my bloody Suunto Solution has worked on the same battery for 3 years now!
End of rant, sorry, just a little pi**ed off.

Brainx3 · 26th April 2008, 19:01

Hi Colin,

Well, I can understand that you are a bit mad about it as if it happened to me then I would be mad as well. I think it wasn't very professional of DP not telling you what the problem is exactly. If I were you, I would give it a new try to see if indeed something has changed this time and if not then take it back to DP ASAP so you would be able to prove the problem presists and since you paid for the fixing the problem last time then they shouldn't charge you anything. Please let us know how thing are proceeding.

Best Regards. Wael

colinj · 26th April 2008, 23:38

Wael,
I have told Stoney to send it back to DP and tell them to test it and this time report on what they find. I hope I get some faith back this time. I will dive it when it gets back.

Regards, Col

24th April 2008, 08:40	#21 (permalink)
osiris Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland Posts: 320	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue Quote: (Originally Posted by colinj) How long (daft question, rough answers accepted with thanks!) do these last on Lithium batteries as i am using standard AA so far, average dive 30-50mins currently, backlight only on button press. Maybe this is the issue and I am expecting too much? I use Kodak digital camera batteries exclusively and change them every three months or whn voltage drops to 1.5V which ever occurs first. I can't gte Lithium 3.6's easily but never had a problem witht he Kodaks - ordinary AA batteries expire quite quickly and I recall the two issues I had were using ordinary AAs. For what it's worth....
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25th April 2008, 02:52	#22 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,325	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue Quote: (Originally Posted by colinj) How long (daft question, rough answers accepted with thanks!) do these last on Lithium batteries as i am using standard AA so far, average dive 30-50mins currently, backlight only on button press. Maybe this is the issue and I am expecting too much? Lets put it this way, Im currently planning an 8hr dive to 150m depth. I will happily start the dive with new decent quality 1.6v Alcaline batteries in my VR3s. I use Energisers or Duracell. If you try to save a few bucks and use cheap batteries you will get less life With a Lithium 3.6v battery you should get up to 100hours use (depending on how much you use back light) Check bottom of page here:- VR3 Dive computer __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment Last edited by Drmike : 25th April 2008 at 02:54.
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25th April 2008, 08:51	#23 (permalink)
colinj New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Uttoxeter Posts: 66	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue Mike, Stay safe! You obviously trust your VR3 completely! I am looking forward to seeing the difference with the 3.5v battery on mine. Just to streighten this out a little, the first time the screen blanked on me as the battery was fairly new and I had put it in myself, I sent the thing back to DP, they returned it with a new battery in, it blanked again within 3 dives or so, the next time it went back it again had a new battery. Each time it has had a battery after failure 1, it has been one fitted and chosen by DP. I have now ASKED for a 3.5v battery to be fitted by DP. I have no issue with DP's service at all, just wonder why I wasn't asked if I wanted 3.5v to begin with?
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25th April 2008, 09:08	#24 (permalink)
Brainx3 Totally Submerged Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: International Waters Posts: 292	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue Hi, I have sent my VR3 to DP last December for some upgrades and when I got it back it came with 3.6v Lithium battery. Maybe it would be the best to ask DP why sometimes the units come with different types of batteries from them. Best Regards. Wael __________________ The depth of life cannot be measured in Bars, nor can the sea of lies, that lies within. Sooner or later I'll be cracking your market and end your game. *I don't take crap for an answer...*
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25th April 2008, 09:16	#25 (permalink)
colinj New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Uttoxeter Posts: 66	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue I pick it up tomorrow and will dive it too, I will let you know what is said when I get back.
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26th April 2008, 17:29	#26 (permalink)
colinj New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Uttoxeter Posts: 66	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue OK, Ask yourself, how impressed would you be now? I get to the Cove, there's the VR3, working fine, bill; £40 for a 3.6v Lithium battery, a new battery cap ("replace that every ten battery changes"....or in my case every 30 dives or so!) and the cap tool, OK, I can deal with that, what was wrong with it? anything? where's the report? "Oh there is no report just the bill!"..........? DP, it's on its' way back to you............
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26th April 2008, 17:35	#27 (permalink)
Brainx3 Totally Submerged Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: International Waters Posts: 292	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue Hi, So you are saying it didn't work as well? Please share a bit more. Best Regards. Wael __________________ The depth of life cannot be measured in Bars, nor can the sea of lies, that lies within. Sooner or later I'll be cracking your market and end your game. *I don't take crap for an answer...*
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26th April 2008, 18:24	#28 (permalink)
colinj New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Uttoxeter Posts: 66	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue No, I did say in the last post it seemed to be working fine on the surface (in the shop) but I want to know they have properly tested it and that it has passed the tests they have done. I would like to be told how it was tested and with what aim? Anyone could put a new battery in it and if it turns on, play with the buttons and say there is nothing wrong with it, that doesn't prove anything! I didn't expect to just get billed and fobbed off, this has happened three times back to back, if most people are getting alot longer than I am from their batteries (even 1.5v alkaline), either I am doing something wrong, mistaken, or the unit has a fault, how can I trust this unit moving into longer deco until I know? By the by, my bloody Suunto Solution has worked on the same battery for 3 years now! End of rant, sorry, just a little pi**ed off.
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26th April 2008, 19:01	#29 (permalink)
Brainx3 Totally Submerged Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: International Waters Posts: 292	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue Hi Colin, Well, I can understand that you are a bit mad about it as if it happened to me then I would be mad as well. I think it wasn't very professional of DP not telling you what the problem is exactly. If I were you, I would give it a new try to see if indeed something has changed this time and if not then take it back to DP ASAP so you would be able to prove the problem presists and since you paid for the fixing the problem last time then they shouldn't charge you anything. Please let us know how thing are proceeding. Best Regards. Wael __________________ The depth of life cannot be measured in Bars, nor can the sea of lies, that lies within. Sooner or later I'll be cracking your market and end your game. *I don't take crap for an answer...*
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colinj New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Uttoxeter Posts: 66	Re: Continuous VR3 Issue Wael, I have told Stoney to send it back to DP and tell them to test it and this time report on what they find. I hope I get some faith back this time. I will dive it when it gets back. Regards, Col
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