Help! Broken 7 Pin Fisher Connector

Craig69 · 7th January 2008, 21:48

I've just managed to break a pin off my 7 pin fisher connector for my VR3.

I was gently cleaning it (I had some salt water corrosion deposits in it) and the pin got bent and then broke as I tried to straighten it.

What I want to know is, does the pin I have broken off do anything. I've seen three wires going into the connector, so obviously 4 pins don't have anything connected to them. The pin I have broken is displayed below with a 'O'. The top 'X' is the pin directly under the red dot on the outer casing.

-------red dot
----------X
---------X X
----------X
---------O X
----------X

Sorry about the --- its the only way I could stop the column from left justifying itself.

I have connected the VR3 up and I did get a reading out of it that matched my displays (I'm using this on a KISS classic). I then disconnected it and reconnected it again and got a reading significantly higher than my handsets. However, this variation in readings was what alerted me to the deposits in the connector in the first place and I know the VR3 needed calibrating anyway.

On the face if it the external PO2 measuring still seems to function but if anyone could advise me differently I would be most grateful. I am going for a shallow dive at the weekernd and will see how it performs then but long term the pin needs replacing, which neatly leads on to my second question:

Other than returning the cable to Delta P are there any other suppliers of fisher connectors in the UK that would attach a new connector to the cable for me. There's no way my soldering skills are up to tthe job of doing it myself.

Thanks.

Oh, and anyone wishing to take the p#ss for the string of school boy errors that led to me cleaning subsequently breakinge connector - the floor is yours.

steveharriss · 8th January 2008, 04:31

Narked@90 should be able to assist with this one.

jhaaja · 8th January 2008, 05:54

Don´t remember which two pins are used but if you get a reading from the cell you should be in the clear. If you have a normal voltmeter use it to test (in Ohm mode) which of the two pins are connected to the molex on the O2 cell side.

JH

abowie · 8th January 2008, 07:06

http://www.rebreatherworld.com/kiss-...html#post25656

Craig69 · 8th January 2008, 12:18

Thanks guys.

I've now got a photo of which pins I need and a voltmeter to double check.

Craig69 · 15th February 2008, 12:44

Just thought I should feedback on this incase anyone else breaks the pin and trawls the archives for an answer.

I've done several dives with the 6 pin connector now and haven't had any problems.

I can only concluded that I am a very lucky hamfisted git.

tibby · 15th February 2008, 19:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by Craig69)

Just thought I should feedback on this incase anyone else breaks the pin and trawls the archives for an answer.

I've done several dives with the 6 pin connector now and haven't had any problems.

I can only concluded that I am a very lucky hamfisted git.

First, I just learned something from your thread, thank you. Second, I'm almost afraid to ask but I have to, what on earth is a "hamfisted git"?
Tibby

Paul T · 15th February 2008, 19:50

Unfortunately i have to dive with him

Paul

osiris · 16th February 2008, 01:33

Quote: (Originally Posted by tibby)

Second, I'm almost afraid to ask but I have to, what on earth is a "hamfisted git"?
Tibby

Apparently, what craig69 is - and what I am too as I did the same thing EXCEPT I had to go one better didn't I? I broke the pin off in the VR3 AND I need this pin to read the sensor. OH WHAT A HAPPY, HAPPY CHAPPY I AM. F*%$#*G NOT!

OH BRUCE PLEASE, PLEASE HURRY UP WITH THE SHEARWATER (SWAGELOCKED of course).

narked at 90 · 16th February 2008, 09:15

Hi guys, we now have the cables in stock and if you want the pin out for the vr3 please have a look HERE
the cables are here if you need them,
they fit the VR3 and now the sheaterwater to read 1 cell for the vr3, and 3 cells on the shearwater,
my webpage shows them as out of stock but i will update it later.
kind regards john routley

www.narkedat90.co.uk

7th January 2008, 21:48	#1 (permalink)
Craig69 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire (Gods Own County), England. Posts: 123	Help! Broken 7 Pin Fisher Connector I've just managed to break a pin off my 7 pin fisher connector for my VR3. I was gently cleaning it (I had some salt water corrosion deposits in it) and the pin got bent and then broke as I tried to straighten it. What I want to know is, does the pin I have broken off do anything. I've seen three wires going into the connector, so obviously 4 pins don't have anything connected to them. The pin I have broken is displayed below with a 'O'. The top 'X' is the pin directly under the red dot on the outer casing. -------red dot ----------X ---------X X ----------X ---------O X ----------X Sorry about the --- its the only way I could stop the column from left justifying itself. I have connected the VR3 up and I did get a reading out of it that matched my displays (I'm using this on a KISS classic). I then disconnected it and reconnected it again and got a reading significantly higher than my handsets. However, this variation in readings was what alerted me to the deposits in the connector in the first place and I know the VR3 needed calibrating anyway. On the face if it the external PO2 measuring still seems to function but if anyone could advise me differently I would be most grateful. I am going for a shallow dive at the weekernd and will see how it performs then but long term the pin needs replacing, which neatly leads on to my second question: Other than returning the cable to Delta P are there any other suppliers of fisher connectors in the UK that would attach a new connector to the cable for me. There's no way my soldering skills are up to tthe job of doing it myself. Thanks. Oh, and anyone wishing to take the p#ss for the string of school boy errors that led to me cleaning subsequently breakinge connector - the floor is yours. __________________ Craig. www.thornebsac.co.uk Last edited by Craig69 : 7th January 2008 at 21:51. Reason: Poor formatting
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8th January 2008, 04:31	#2 (permalink)
steveharriss Bubble free by choice Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 165	Re: Help! Broken 7 Pin Fisher Connector Narked@90 should be able to assist with this one.
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8th January 2008, 05:54	#3 (permalink)
jhaaja Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 884	Re: Help! Broken 7 Pin Fisher Connector Don´t remember which two pins are used but if you get a reading from the cell you should be in the clear. If you have a normal voltmeter use it to test (in Ohm mode) which of the two pins are connected to the molex on the O2 cell side. JH
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abowie Fighting Girl Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: Land of Oz Posts: 574	Re: Help! Broken 7 Pin Fisher Connector http://www.rebreatherworld.com/kiss-...html#post25656 __________________ Andrew Bowie Rebreather-friendly Buddy
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8th January 2008, 12:18	#5 (permalink)
Craig69 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire (Gods Own County), England. Posts: 123	Re: Help! Broken 7 Pin Fisher Connector Thanks guys. I've now got a photo of which pins I need and a voltmeter to double check. __________________ Craig. www.thornebsac.co.uk
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15th February 2008, 12:44	#6 (permalink)
Craig69 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Barnsley, South Yorkshire (Gods Own County), England. Posts: 123	Re: Help! Broken 7 Pin Fisher Connector Just thought I should feedback on this incase anyone else breaks the pin and trawls the archives for an answer. I've done several dives with the 6 pin connector now and haven't had any problems. I can only concluded that I am a very lucky hamfisted git. __________________ Craig. www.thornebsac.co.uk
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15th February 2008, 19:04	#7 (permalink)
tibby untitled Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2007 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 342	Re: Help! Broken 7 Pin Fisher Connector Quote: (Originally Posted by Craig69) Just thought I should feedback on this incase anyone else breaks the pin and trawls the archives for an answer. I've done several dives with the 6 pin connector now and haven't had any problems. I can only concluded that I am a very lucky hamfisted git. First, I just learned something from your thread, thank you. Second, I'm almost afraid to ask but I have to, what on earth is a "hamfisted git"? Tibby __________________ Does the voice of reason change when you add helium to the mix?...hmm
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15th February 2008, 19:50	#8 (permalink)
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16th February 2008, 01:33	#9 (permalink)
osiris Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Auckland Posts: 318	Re: Help! Broken 7 Pin Fisher Connector Quote: (Originally Posted by tibby) Second, I'm almost afraid to ask but I have to, what on earth is a "hamfisted git"? Tibby Apparently, what craig69 is - and what I am too as I did the same thing EXCEPT I had to go one better didn't I? I broke the pin off in the VR3 AND I need this pin to read the sensor. OH WHAT A HAPPY, HAPPY CHAPPY I AM. F%$#G NOT! OH BRUCE PLEASE, PLEASE HURRY UP WITH THE SHEARWATER (SWAGELOCKED of course).
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narked at 90 John Routley Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: middlands uk Posts: 1,035	Re: Help! Broken 7 Pin Fisher Connector Hi guys, we now have the cables in stock and if you want the pin out for the vr3 please have a look HERE the cables are here if you need them, they fit the VR3 and now the sheaterwater to read 1 cell for the vr3, and 3 cells on the shearwater, my webpage shows them as out of stock but i will update it later. kind regards john routley *www.narkedat90.co.uk* __________________ CHECK OUT OUR INTERWEBS FOR CUSTOM REBREATHER UPGRADES *WWW.NARKEDAT90.CO.UK* *WWW.GRPSERVICES.COM*
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