new body for the inspiration have a look

Hajj IT · 6th May 2006, 19:06

I am trying to make a new body for the Inspiration please have a look at the pictures, they are still illustrated on the pc. before i do it for real tell me if u like it or not , and if u think how it would be in a better way, what should I change?
thanks

JonnyB · 6th May 2006, 19:27

Nice, how do you open it to get the cannister out?

/Jonny

Hajj IT · 6th May 2006, 19:38

this is how it open but nothing is ready yet just working on an idea, still phaze 1. hope u give me some feed back.
thanks

***Beanie*** · 7th May 2006, 20:27

Interesting..... what would it be made of? and what weight would it be?

fubari · 8th May 2006, 17:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by Hajj IT)

this is how it open but nothing is ready yet just working on an idea, still faze 1. hope u give me some feed back.
thanks

Visually it looks nice.
I'm guessing it would be fairly un-streamlined in practice,
but as you said - just phaze-one (for a rough-draft it is
an interesting start).

Are the tanks standard Insp 3L bottles?
I see the tank-notches in the cross-sections.
Is there a cam-band in there somewhere for securing
the tanks? What does the cam-band anchor to?
Seems hard to run w/different sized tanks.
If your tank mounts were entirely outside the line
of the cross-sections, you could hook up different
sized tanks and/probably make do w/thinner
cross-sections.

Is the potato-chip thing on top just a handle?
If the top is indeed open, it already has 4 handles (five
if the top-circle piece happened to be just a smaller
cross-section w/hollow center (and if that is open,
why have the larger handle-assmebly (extending up
from the backplate) at all?)).

Is the scrubber supposed to sit flush within the cross-section stack?

The vertical rod-things look precarious... how will they resist torque?
(I'm not very kind to my kit, at least when I'm hauling it around dive
boats). Is that the purpose of the wraparound shell - absorb strain
so things don't shear so much?
How do the rod-things attach to the cross-sections?
How does the lid-assembly attach?

Would a small argon / drysuit bottle fit in the bottom bit?
The bottom stand-plate looks _very_ unstreamlined.

Streamlining - why not cover everything? As in, why not run
the back-shell all the way to the top cross-section, instead of
leaving the last 2 open.
Make the top-cover solid, too.
Do your shell w/perspex or smth - then all of the petty
metalwork would still be visible.

Seems like it would be hard to tear-down / build-up.
Do assemblies rotate/screw/snap into place?
Lots of wing-nuts? (I really dislike the classic's
mechanism for fastening the top of the scrubber.
Hmm... if the scrubber body fits flush inside your
cross-section stack, can the top-piece be used
to secure the scrubber lid? If the edges of the
scrubber & lid happened to mate _in_ a cross
section, there would be no lateral motion - then
you'd "just" need sufficient vertical tension to keep
that pesky lid sealed tightly).

Oh well, it is interesting to think about.
Good luck

Hajj IT · 8th May 2006, 21:30

First I was thinking to do it SS, but I thought it would be heavy. Then I said maybe Aluminum or plastic, or maybe mix of plastic and the cover is aluminum, so I am not sure, the more I am working on it and see what it need I will know what would be easier and lighter and what would the material be, after that I can weight it and let u know about the weight.

Hajj IT · 8th May 2006, 21:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by fubari)

Visually it looks nice.
I'm guessing it would be fairly un-streamlined in practice,
but as you said - just phaze-one (for a rough-draft it is
an interesting start).

Are the tanks standard Insp 3L bottles?
I see the tank-notches in the cross-sections.
Is there a cam-band in there somewhere for securing
the tanks? What does the cam-band anchor to?
Seems hard to run w/different sized tanks.
If your tank mounts were entirely outside the line
of the cross-sections, you could hook up different
sized tanks and/probably make do w/thinner
cross-sections.

Is the potato-chip thing on top just a handle?
If the top is indeed open, it already has 4 handles (five
if the top-circle piece happened to be just a smaller
cross-section w/hollow center (and if that is open,
why have the larger handle-assmebly (extending up
from the backplate) at all?)).

Is the scrubber supposed to sit flush within the cross-section stack?

The vertical rod-things look precarious... how will they resist torque?
(I'm not very kind to my kit, at least when I'm hauling it around dive
boats). Is that the purpose of the wraparound shell - absorb strain
so things don't shear so much?
How do the rod-things attach to the cross-sections?
How does the lid-assembly attach?

Would a small argon / drysuit bottle fit in the bottom bit?
The bottom stand-plate looks _very_ unstreamlined.

Streamlining - why not cover everything? As in, why not run
the back-shell all the way to the top cross-section, instead of
leaving the last 2 open.
Make the top-cover solid, too.
Do your shell w/perspex or smth - then all of the petty
metalwork would still be visible.

Seems like it would be hard to tear-down / build-up.
Do assemblies rotate/screw/snap into place?
Lots of wing-nuts? (I really dislike the classic's
mechanism for fastening the top of the scrubber.
Hmm... if the scrubber body fits flush inside your
cross-section stack, can the top-piece be used
to secure the scrubber lid? If the edges of the
scrubber & lid happened to mate _in_ a cross
section, there would be no lateral motion - then
you'd "just" need sufficient vertical tension to keep
that pesky lid sealed tightly).

Oh well, it is interesting to think about.
Good luck

Dear fubari

Thanks for yr answer, that is what I am looking for, what are the needs and adjustments for the inspiration diver and how do they want it to look like plus the flexibility.

So more I look at the machine I figure new things to be done, but here in general every diver like to put his stuff his way so I like to know how to make it look cool and to be more practical for every one.

I shall consider all what u said and try to work on them one by one,
Is the potato-chip thing on top is a place for an other 2L tank.
Thanks again

dantheman · 8th May 2006, 22:10

The vertical rods look dicey, but I like the wrap-around aspect.

A version for the classic KISS would need spaces on the
diver side for the counterlungs. (just planting a seed ...

)

--dan

***caveseeker7*** · 9th May 2006, 05:28

Cool looking design. Reminds me a bit of the pics I got from Wassim some time ago.

Hajj IT · 9th May 2006, 11:43

Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7)

Cool looking design. Reminds me a bit of the pics I got from Wassim some time ago.

6th May 2006, 19:27	#2 (permalink)
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8th May 2006, 17:43	#5 (permalink)
fubari New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 113	Re: new body for the inspiration have a look Quote: (Originally Posted by Hajj IT) this is how it open but nothing is ready yet just working on an idea, still faze 1. hope u give me some feed back. thanks Visually it looks nice. I'm guessing it would be fairly un-streamlined in practice, but as you said - just phaze-one (for a rough-draft it is an interesting start). Are the tanks standard Insp 3L bottles? I see the tank-notches in the cross-sections. Is there a cam-band in there somewhere for securing the tanks? What does the cam-band anchor to? Seems hard to run w/different sized tanks. If your tank mounts were entirely outside the line of the cross-sections, you could hook up different sized tanks and/probably make do w/thinner cross-sections. Is the potato-chip thing on top just a handle? If the top is indeed open, it already has 4 handles (five if the top-circle piece happened to be just a smaller cross-section w/hollow center (and if that is open, why have the larger handle-assmebly (extending up from the backplate) at all?)). Is the scrubber supposed to sit flush within the cross-section stack? The vertical rod-things look precarious... how will they resist torque? (I'm not very kind to my kit, at least when I'm hauling it around dive boats). Is that the purpose of the wraparound shell - absorb strain so things don't shear so much? How do the rod-things attach to the cross-sections? How does the lid-assembly attach? Would a small argon / drysuit bottle fit in the bottom bit? The bottom stand-plate looks _very_ unstreamlined. Streamlining - why not cover everything? As in, why not run the back-shell all the way to the top cross-section, instead of leaving the last 2 open. Make the top-cover solid, too. Do your shell w/perspex or smth - then all of the petty metalwork would still be visible. Seems like it would be hard to tear-down / build-up. Do assemblies rotate/screw/snap into place? Lots of wing-nuts? (I really dislike the classic's mechanism for fastening the top of the scrubber. Hmm... if the scrubber body fits flush inside your cross-section stack, can the top-piece be used to secure the scrubber lid? If the edges of the scrubber & lid happened to mate _in_ a cross section, there would be no lateral motion - then you'd "just" need sufficient vertical tension to keep that pesky lid sealed tightly). Oh well, it is interesting to think about. Good luck
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8th May 2006, 21:30	#6 (permalink)
Hajj IT New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: May 2006 Location: everywhere Posts: 18	Re: new body for the inspiration have a look First I was thinking to do it SS, but I thought it would be heavy. Then I said maybe Aluminum or plastic, or maybe mix of plastic and the cover is aluminum, so I am not sure, the more I am working on it and see what it need I will know what would be easier and lighter and what would the material be, after that I can weight it and let u know about the weight.
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8th May 2006, 21:46	#7 (permalink)
Hajj IT New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: May 2006 Location: everywhere Posts: 18	Re: new body for the inspiration have a look Quote: (Originally Posted by fubari) Visually it looks nice. I'm guessing it would be fairly un-streamlined in practice, but as you said - just phaze-one (for a rough-draft it is an interesting start). Are the tanks standard Insp 3L bottles? I see the tank-notches in the cross-sections. Is there a cam-band in there somewhere for securing the tanks? What does the cam-band anchor to? Seems hard to run w/different sized tanks. If your tank mounts were entirely outside the line of the cross-sections, you could hook up different sized tanks and/probably make do w/thinner cross-sections. Is the potato-chip thing on top just a handle? If the top is indeed open, it already has 4 handles (five if the top-circle piece happened to be just a smaller cross-section w/hollow center (and if that is open, why have the larger handle-assmebly (extending up from the backplate) at all?)). Is the scrubber supposed to sit flush within the cross-section stack? The vertical rod-things look precarious... how will they resist torque? (I'm not very kind to my kit, at least when I'm hauling it around dive boats). Is that the purpose of the wraparound shell - absorb strain so things don't shear so much? How do the rod-things attach to the cross-sections? How does the lid-assembly attach? Would a small argon / drysuit bottle fit in the bottom bit? The bottom stand-plate looks _very_ unstreamlined. Streamlining - why not cover everything? As in, why not run the back-shell all the way to the top cross-section, instead of leaving the last 2 open. Make the top-cover solid, too. Do your shell w/perspex or smth - then all of the petty metalwork would still be visible. Seems like it would be hard to tear-down / build-up. Do assemblies rotate/screw/snap into place? Lots of wing-nuts? (I really dislike the classic's mechanism for fastening the top of the scrubber. Hmm... if the scrubber body fits flush inside your cross-section stack, can the top-piece be used to secure the scrubber lid? If the edges of the scrubber & lid happened to mate _in_ a cross section, there would be no lateral motion - then you'd "just" need sufficient vertical tension to keep that pesky lid sealed tightly). Oh well, it is interesting to think about. Good luck Dear fubari Thanks for yr answer, that is what I am looking for, what are the needs and adjustments for the inspiration diver and how do they want it to look like plus the flexibility. So more I look at the machine I figure new things to be done, but here in general every diver like to put his stuff his way so I like to know how to make it look cool and to be more practical for every one. I shall consider all what u said and try to work on them one by one, Is the potato-chip thing on top is a place for an other 2L tank. Thanks again Last edited by Hajj IT : 8th May 2006 at 21:53.
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8th May 2006, 22:10	#8 (permalink)
dantheman Emoticonoclast Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Join Date: May 2005 Location: NorthEast USA Posts: 394	Re: new body for the inspiration have a look The vertical rods look dicey, but I like the wrap-around aspect. A version for the classic KISS would need spaces on the diver side for the counterlungs. (just planting a seed ... ) --dan
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9th May 2006, 11:43	#10 (permalink)
Hajj IT New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: May 2006 Location: everywhere Posts: 18	Re: new body for the inspiration have a look Quote: (Originally Posted by caveseeker7) Cool looking design. Reminds me a bit of the pics I got from Wassim some time ago.
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