Fastest unit to prepare

Wol · 9th May 2008, 11:31

I would like to start a discussion regarding views on which rebreather units are fastest to prepare to a diveable state.

One of the downsides of Rebreather diving compared to OC is that you need to prep the unit. Just as with manufcaturing companies who design products for production lines to be fast in putting together.

Has anyone any views who owns several units.

louisrankin · 9th May 2008, 12:11

I used to be able to prep my Sports kiss to dive in 10mins max.

xpabu · 9th May 2008, 12:16

Another vote for the Sport KISS--it really is very easy to strip and assemble.

paulraymaekers · 9th May 2008, 12:29

Quote: (Originally Posted by Wol)

I would like to start a discussion regarding views on which rebreather units are fastest to prepare to a diveable state.

One of the downsides of Rebreather diving compared to OC is that you need to prep the unit. Just as with manufcaturing companies who design products for production lines to be fast in putting together.

Has anyone any views who owns several units.

eeuuhhh.... the rEvo ?

paul

Dutchy · 9th May 2008, 12:50

Sorry Paul not the rEvo. I saw you doing it and it just takes slightly more time. On a practical level there isn't much difference but when it becomes a competition it is very hard to beat a SK. The same goes btw for stripping and cleaning the unit.

jo_c · 9th May 2008, 12:51

Personally, my opinion is it's not about speed it's about getting it right.

Before a diving weekend/trip, I'll assemble the unit which may take up to 45mins or so (checking removing and regreasing o rings if necessary). I take my time and follow the checklist. I can do it a lot quicker, but I give myself lots of time to do it properly.

When I get on the boat, I positive, negative, check cells/electronics, check wing inflate, adv, o2 button etc. Then a pre-breathe before the dive - that's it.

**Dave Sutton** · 9th May 2008, 13:11

ZERO debate on this one for me, having basically used them all.

rEvo, hands down. Easiest rig to live with on a daily basis imginable.

Sport Kiss, second. Not nearly as capable as the rEvo but setup time is just about the same.

All due respect to Paul and Dutchy: I own and dive them both. rEvo is easier... and it's also a lot better rig from mny other standpoints.

Worst? Mark-15. Just a matter of scrubber packing time.

All the rest are in the middle. None much better or worse.

Dave

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silentscuba · 9th May 2008, 13:19

Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers)

eeuuhhh.... the rEvo ?

paul

I agree with Paul, so, in my experience thus far, the rEvo was manufactured to be quick and easy to maintain and build and is one of the easiest, high quality, substantial CCR's currently on the market.

A person looking at build time also needs to look at what you are going to do with your rebreather and how it will be used so you can pick the right unit for your needs.

***diverklondike*** · 9th May 2008, 13:42

Well... I think people are missing the obvious and that's the Optima and for the reason that Dave has mentioned the MK-15 as being the longest due to scrubber packing.

The EAC cartridge wins hands down on the lowest amount of time that it takes to replace/prep a consistant scrubber.

Sooooooo..... don't only suggest the rig that you own, sell or teach and look at the market as whole. Personally the speed at which a unit can be prepared is prettly low on my list of selection critera for a CCR.

Dive Safe...

Mark

paulraymaekers · 9th May 2008, 14:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by diverklondike)

Well... I think people are missing the obvious and that's the Optima and for the reason that Dave has mentioned the MK-15 as being the longest due to scrubber packing.

The EAC cartridge wins hands down on the lowest amount of time that it takes to replace/prep a consistant scrubber.

Sooooooo..... don't only suggest the rig that you own, sell or teach and look at the market as whole. Personally the speed at which a unit can be prepared is prettly low on my list of selection critera for a CCR.

Dive Safe...

Mark

Hi Mark, I could tell you nice story's of livaboards, different rebreathers, multiple dives a day... who relaxes the most and who is passing all the time working on their rig...

paul

9th May 2008, 11:31	#1 (permalink)
Wol New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: UK Posts: 25	Fastest unit to prepare I would like to start a discussion regarding views on which rebreather units are fastest to prepare to a diveable state. One of the downsides of Rebreather diving compared to OC is that you need to prep the unit. Just as with manufcaturing companies who design products for production lines to be fast in putting together. Has anyone any views who owns several units.
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9th May 2008, 12:11	#2 (permalink)
louisrankin Póg mo thóin Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cambridge Posts: 301	Re: Fastest unit to prepare I used to be able to prep my Sports kiss to dive in 10mins max.
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9th May 2008, 12:16	#3 (permalink)
xpabu New Member Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 50	Re: Fastest unit to prepare Another vote for the Sport KISS--it really is very easy to strip and assemble.
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9th May 2008, 12:29	#4 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,384	Re: Fastest unit to prepare Quote: (Originally Posted by Wol) I would like to start a discussion regarding views on which rebreather units are fastest to prepare to a diveable state. One of the downsides of Rebreather diving compared to OC is that you need to prep the unit. Just as with manufcaturing companies who design products for production lines to be fast in putting together. Has anyone any views who owns several units. eeuuhhh.... the rEvo ? paul __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials...
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9th May 2008, 12:50	#5 (permalink)
Dutchy SK#007 Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nieuwegein (The Netherlands) Posts: 699	Re: Fastest unit to prepare Sorry Paul not the rEvo. I saw you doing it and it just takes slightly more time. On a practical level there isn't much difference but when it becomes a competition it is very hard to beat a SK. The same goes btw for stripping and cleaning the unit. __________________ = This post is environmentally friendly. It is composed of 100% recycled electrons only. = SK #007
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9th May 2008, 12:51	#6 (permalink)
jo_c Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Hants, UK Posts: 140	Re: Fastest unit to prepare Personally, my opinion is it's not about speed it's about getting it right. Before a diving weekend/trip, I'll assemble the unit which may take up to 45mins or so (checking removing and regreasing o rings if necessary). I take my time and follow the checklist. I can do it a lot quicker, but I give myself lots of time to do it properly. When I get on the boat, I positive, negative, check cells/electronics, check wing inflate, adv, o2 button etc. Then a pre-breathe before the dive - that's it. Last edited by jo_c : 9th May 2008 at 12:57.
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9th May 2008, 13:11	#7 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Living on Animal Farm Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss MK 15.X rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Azimuth Home Build Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Narragansett, Rhode Island and Hackettstown, New Jersey Posts: 2,512	Re: Fastest unit to prepare ZERO debate on this one for me, having basically used them all. rEvo, hands down. Easiest rig to live with on a daily basis imginable. Sport Kiss, second. Not nearly as capable as the rEvo but setup time is just about the same. All due respect to Paul and Dutchy: I own and dive them both. rEvo is easier... and it's also a lot better rig from mny other standpoints. Worst? Mark-15. Just a matter of scrubber packing time. All the rest are in the middle. None much better or worse. Dave . __________________ . "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others" Professional Small Boy: Never Successfully Cubicled.
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9th May 2008, 13:19	#8 (permalink)
silentscuba rEvo CCR Driver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic rEvo Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Mill Creek, WA USA Posts: 568	Re: Fastest unit to prepare Quote: (Originally Posted by paulraymaekers) eeuuhhh.... the rEvo ? paul I agree with Paul, so, in my experience thus far, the rEvo was manufactured to be quick and easy to maintain and build and is one of the easiest, high quality, substantial CCR's currently on the market. A person looking at build time also needs to look at what you are going to do with your rebreather and how it will be used so you can pick the right unit for your needs. __________________ Curt McNamee rEvo CCR Diver KISS CCR Diver www.silentscuba.com
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9th May 2008, 13:42	#9 (permalink)
*diverklondike* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Delaware, USA Posts: 1,462	Re: Fastest unit to prepare Well... I think people are missing the obvious and that's the Optima and for the reason that Dave has mentioned the MK-15 as being the longest due to scrubber packing. The EAC cartridge wins hands down on the lowest amount of time that it takes to replace/prep a consistant scrubber. Sooooooo..... don't only suggest the rig that you own, sell or teach and look at the market as whole. Personally the speed at which a unit can be prepared is prettly low on my list of selection critera for a CCR. Dive Safe... Mark
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9th May 2008, 14:13	#10 (permalink)
paulraymaekers rEvo's daddy Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Other CCR Home Build Join Date: May 2005 Location: belgium Posts: 1,384	Re: Fastest unit to prepare Quote: (Originally Posted by diverklondike) Well... I think people are missing the obvious and that's the Optima and for the reason that Dave has mentioned the MK-15 as being the longest due to scrubber packing. The EAC cartridge wins hands down on the lowest amount of time that it takes to replace/prep a consistant scrubber. Sooooooo..... don't only suggest the rig that you own, sell or teach and look at the market as whole. Personally the speed at which a unit can be prepared is prettly low on my list of selection critera for a CCR. Dive Safe... Mark Hi Mark, I could tell you nice story's of livaboards, different rebreathers, multiple dives a day... who relaxes the most and who is passing all the time working on their rig... paul __________________ www.rEvo-rebreathers.com .... the earth is flat, Elvis is alive, and radial scrubbers give longer dwell time than axials...
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