Fastest unit to prepare

si_b_lanzarote · 10th May 2008, 19:49

Quote: (Originally Posted by Wol)

Has anyone any thoughts on how the sentinel compares to others?

the sentinel is no faster or slower than an inspiration or a meg, but it may may seem slower as with the full 18 hour checks it counts you down on the pre breathe and neg test making it impossible to cut them short and also lists all the things you sould check, so its hard to forget or skip certain steps, the emphasis on the Sentinel isn't to perform a fast check, the emphasis is on a QUALITY check the unit tries to ensure you do the correct check taking into account the amount of time since your last dive or cal. therefore it shortens the checks if allowable.

for me a quality check is what matters

i have seen the revo close up and am very impressed with its "user friendliness" and will more than likely go down that route in the future, but lets not forget changing a prepacked scrubber in 38 seconds isnt a comprehensive predive check, and thinking about it, in a prepacked scrubber changing situation then my money would be on the meg... 4 clips, pull scrubber drop in new close the 4 clips done! i reckon it would be faster. but like i said i wouldnt be trying to sell a unit on its "speed".

regards si

mempilot · 10th May 2008, 20:02

Did I understand someone properly when they told me the Sentinel requires tools to put it together? Just curious. I'm impressed with the beefy engineering design that went into it.

si_b_lanzarote · 10th May 2008, 20:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by mempilot)

Did I understand someone properly when they told me the Sentinel requires tools to put it together? Just curious. I'm impressed with the beefy engineering design that went into it.

no tools to put together or take apart?!?!? twist and push button for hose removal, the mouth piece is held with retaining rings that can be removed by hand, the body has a retainer which you pull and twist, infact without tools you can take it further apart (into more pieces) than you can either the meg or the inspo.

regards si

mempilot · 10th May 2008, 20:16

Quote: (Originally Posted by si_b_lanzarote)

no tools to put together or take apart?!?!? twist and push button for hose removal, the mouth piece is held with retaining rings that can be removed by hand, the body has a retainer which you pull and twist, infact without tools you can take it further apart (into more pieces) than you can either the meg or the inspo.

regards si

OK. I probably misunderstood their enthusiasum for the engineering and took something literally. I got to see one in action last weekend and see it all apart on a bench a few days before that. Very impressive. The unit is very heavy though.

si_b_lanzarote · 10th May 2008, 20:21

Quote: (Originally Posted by mempilot)

OK. I probably misunderstood their enthusiasum for the engineering and took something literally. I got to see one in action last weekend and see it all apart on a bench a few days before that. Very impressive. The unit is very heavy though.

i dont feel its any heavier than a meg or inspo?!?! and dry weight its lighter than both

mempilot · 10th May 2008, 20:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by si_b_lanzarote)

i dont feel its any heavier than a meg or inspo?!?! and dry weight its lighter than both

I think the unit weighs somewhere around 90 lbs ready to dive, doesn't it?

si_b_lanzarote · 10th May 2008, 20:54

we are thread jackin a bit, but errr 90 lbs thats about 41 kilos, my unit is away at the moment but when its back ill let you know, but that sounds a bit much to me

... 27 kilos dry unit inc cylinders, 2.2 kilos of slime, 4 kilos of lead (for me anyway) 800 litres of gas (air and o2) about 1.1 kilos so that comes out at 34.3 kilos or 75.5 lbs

regards si

Quote: (Originally Posted by mempilot)

I think the unit weighs somewhere around 90 lbs ready to dive, doesn't it?

***Beanie*** · 10th May 2008, 21:16

No idea which is fastest to assemble.

Don't personally believe that it makes a difference, I still don't get the idea that rebreathers take longer to set up than OC.

Its not a race and speed is probably the best way to make mistakes.

Its best to get it right and take a little longer than rush it and end up hurt

obakesan82 · 10th May 2008, 22:57

Another vote for the rEvo. I find it slightly faster than the Sport Kiss and much faster than the Classic Kiss. I've owned all three.

Regards,

Ed

Lilou6 · 10th May 2008, 23:02

Sorry it's not my case, 10mn is the maximum i use to.

Best regards

Lilian

10th May 2008, 19:49	#21 (permalink)
si_b_lanzarote New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Megalodon Ouroboros Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 68	Re: Fastest unit to prepare Quote: (Originally Posted by Wol) Has anyone any thoughts on how the sentinel compares to others? the sentinel is no faster or slower than an inspiration or a meg, but it may may seem slower as with the full 18 hour checks it counts you down on the pre breathe and neg test making it impossible to cut them short and also lists all the things you sould check, so its hard to forget or skip certain steps, the emphasis on the Sentinel isn't to perform a fast check, the emphasis is on a QUALITY check the unit tries to ensure you do the correct check taking into account the amount of time since your last dive or cal. therefore it shortens the checks if allowable. for me a quality check is what matters i have seen the revo close up and am very impressed with its "user friendliness" and will more than likely go down that route in the future, but lets not forget changing a prepacked scrubber in 38 seconds isnt a comprehensive predive check, and thinking about it, in a prepacked scrubber changing situation then my money would be on the meg... 4 clips, pull scrubber drop in new close the 4 clips done! i reckon it would be faster. but like i said i wouldnt be trying to sell a unit on its "speed". regards si __________________ http://www.thediveshoplanzarote.com
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10th May 2008, 20:02	#22 (permalink)
mempilot What is this..terrafirma? Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 1,089	Re: Fastest unit to prepare Did I understand someone properly when they told me the Sentinel requires tools to put it together? Just curious. I'm impressed with the beefy engineering design that went into it. __________________ MEM "Da Pilot" Black holes are where God divided by zero. "If at first you don't succeed, don't dive silent." "Would you mind not shooting at the thermo-nuclear weapons." ~ Vic Deakins "Donkey's kill more people annually than plane crashes."
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10th May 2008, 20:11	#23 (permalink)
si_b_lanzarote New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Megalodon Ouroboros Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 68	Re: Fastest unit to prepare Quote: (Originally Posted by mempilot) Did I understand someone properly when they told me the Sentinel requires tools to put it together? Just curious. I'm impressed with the beefy engineering design that went into it. no tools to put together or take apart?!?!? twist and push button for hose removal, the mouth piece is held with retaining rings that can be removed by hand, the body has a retainer which you pull and twist, infact without tools you can take it further apart (into more pieces) than you can either the meg or the inspo. regards si __________________ http://www.thediveshoplanzarote.com
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10th May 2008, 20:16	#24 (permalink)
mempilot What is this..terrafirma? Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 1,089	Re: Fastest unit to prepare Quote: (Originally Posted by si_b_lanzarote) no tools to put together or take apart?!?!? twist and push button for hose removal, the mouth piece is held with retaining rings that can be removed by hand, the body has a retainer which you pull and twist, infact without tools you can take it further apart (into more pieces) than you can either the meg or the inspo. regards si OK. I probably misunderstood their enthusiasum for the engineering and took something literally. I got to see one in action last weekend and see it all apart on a bench a few days before that. Very impressive. The unit is very heavy though. __________________ MEM "Da Pilot" Black holes are where God divided by zero. "If at first you don't succeed, don't dive silent." "Would you mind not shooting at the thermo-nuclear weapons." ~ Vic Deakins "Donkey's kill more people annually than plane crashes."
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10th May 2008, 20:21	#25 (permalink)
si_b_lanzarote New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Megalodon Ouroboros Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 68	Re: Fastest unit to prepare Quote: (Originally Posted by mempilot) OK. I probably misunderstood their enthusiasum for the engineering and took something literally. I got to see one in action last weekend and see it all apart on a bench a few days before that. Very impressive. The unit is very heavy though. i dont feel its any heavier than a meg or inspo?!?! and dry weight its lighter than both __________________ http://www.thediveshoplanzarote.com
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10th May 2008, 20:35	#26 (permalink)
mempilot What is this..terrafirma? Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 1,089	Re: Fastest unit to prepare Quote: (Originally Posted by si_b_lanzarote) i dont feel its any heavier than a meg or inspo?!?! and dry weight its lighter than both I think the unit weighs somewhere around 90 lbs ready to dive, doesn't it? __________________ MEM "Da Pilot" Black holes are where God divided by zero. "If at first you don't succeed, don't dive silent." "Would you mind not shooting at the thermo-nuclear weapons." ~ Vic Deakins "Donkey's kill more people annually than plane crashes."
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10th May 2008, 20:54	#27 (permalink)
si_b_lanzarote New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Megalodon Ouroboros Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Dolphin Ray Home Build Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: lanzarote, Canary Islands Posts: 68	Re: Fastest unit to prepare we are thread jackin a bit, but errr 90 lbs thats about 41 kilos, my unit is away at the moment but when its back ill let you know, but that sounds a bit much to me... 27 kilos dry unit inc cylinders, 2.2 kilos of slime, 4 kilos of lead (for me anyway) 800 litres of gas (air and o2) about 1.1 kilos so that comes out at 34.3 kilos or 75.5 lbs regards si Quote: (Originally Posted by mempilot) I think the unit weighs somewhere around 90 lbs ready to dive, doesn't it? __________________ http://www.thediveshoplanzarote.com
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10th May 2008, 21:16	#28 (permalink)
*Beanie* Cheif tea maker Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In da house! yeah baby! Posts: 3,133	Re: Fastest unit to prepare No idea which is fastest to assemble. Don't personally believe that it makes a difference, I still don't get the idea that rebreathers take longer to set up than OC. Its not a race and speed is probably the best way to make mistakes. Its best to get it right and take a little longer than rush it and end up hurt __________________ Beanie Gallery Admin & Library Assistant. www.outlawdivers.org.uk www.beandiving.co.uk www.beanengineering.co.uk www.divelife.co.uk
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10th May 2008, 22:57	#29 (permalink)
obakesan82 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Classic Kiss rEvo Other CCR Dolphin Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: North Carolina Posts: 92	Re: Fastest unit to prepare Another vote for the rEvo. I find it slightly faster than the Sport Kiss and much faster than the Classic Kiss. I've owned all three. Regards, Ed __________________ "Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum."
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10th May 2008, 23:02	#30 (permalink)
Lilou6 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: South of the france Posts: 45	Re: Fastest unit to prepare Sorry it's not my case, 10mn is the maximum i use to. Best regards Lilian
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