What would it take for an interested to buy?

zzzzzzzz · 9th March 2008, 21:40

Dear List,

Here is a question for those watching from the sidelines and others who wish to share their experience in getting into rebreathers:

What would it take to get you, the interested and non-owner, to buy a rebreather?

Is there an element lacking that upon arriving on the scene motivated the purchase, or is there still something missing?

The answer could be as simple as waiting for better survival statistics to waiting for a more natural breathing experience to some widget that practically dives for you and does the dishes.

For many, this transition has already taken place and it would be nice to find out what that is.

Thank you,

z

Buck-O-Five · 10th March 2008, 15:57

For me it was in the plans but the final straw was PEER PRESSURE. My 5 dive buddies all got rEvo's at the same time and left me standing there with double 130's and I started to feel like a PITA on our dives. Heavy noisy gear with very limited BT's, was not going to cut it with this group. I bought a CK a few months later.
There is one buddy left who is in CCR training now and looking to buy.

zzzzzzzz · 10th March 2008, 23:52

Buck O Five,

Thank you for the reply, this is very good material. Would it be fair that there are distinct advantages over open circuit and there needs to be some human element? Perhaps it is the sense of acceptance of the technology or the overwhelming advantage still needs some tidbit?

Are you able to provide some insight into what motivated the CK over your buddies' choices? Did you like the simplicity of the sensor display information? Did you want to avoid the complexity and "magic" of the ECCR?

Thank you again for providing insight into your decision process!

z

Windwalker · 11th March 2008, 22:23

Quote: (Originally Posted by zzzzzzzz)

Dear List,

Here is a question for those watching from the sidelines and others who wish to share their experience in getting into rebreathers:

What would it take to get you, the interested and non-owner, to buy a rebreather?

I am going to go with the every present "Time and Money" When I get the Time to take two weeks off for training, I will spend the money! ;p

When that "Time" comes.. I am going to be one Happy Camper. Although.. None of my dive buddies dive rebreather, Hopefully I will start something.

adstaa · 12th March 2008, 04:15

For me it's just down to having the $$$...and getting the nod from the finance minister

I've already made my made up that I want one and have been doing a lot of research on different units, so I have a good idea of what I want in my own unit. Still not 100% settled on which unit I will get, but that's more just down to features and benefits.

If I were to come into a decent sum of $$$ in the very near future I would certainly have one.

**nigelh** · 12th March 2008, 06:59

<confession>
I suffer from sea sickness.
I was getting royally browned off with blending a 'mix, spending the time hanging over the side revisiting breakfast while the others dived and then discovering it was exactly wrong for what we were planning next week.
I either bought five spare twinsets or, heck, one of them new fangled rebreathery things.
This was 2001.
</confession>

**kybrt** · 13th March 2008, 01:30

<simpson>

i bought the twinsets and the rebreathery.

DOH!!!!!!!

</simpson>

zzzzzzzz · 13th March 2008, 03:00

You guys kill me, please keep the replies coming.

You have my admiration wrt your confessions.

z

divepig2 · 13th March 2008, 03:16

For me the expense is obviously an issue but I have another concern. I want to try these units before I buy. I wouldn't buy a car without driving it first (and some of my cars haven't cost as much as any of the commercial units) and I won't buy a rebreather without diving it.
I have met people from Inspiration, Megalodon, Prism and KISS at a local trade show in each of the past two years. Following the shows, I called each to try and set up an "experience" with these units. The only people to even bother calling me back was KISS and they set me up with a shop that I got a lecture, teardown and about an hour in the pool.
I dive a Dolphin and told them all I was looking to upgrade. It seems that if I wasn't ready to shell out the money for training right away, they weren't interested. I was quite disappointed.
I hope others have had better luck than I have. Has anyone else run into this?
Harrison

mountain diver · 13th March 2008, 03:32

Owning a rebreather is something you do. If you think about owning one based on money, you will never own one, they are not cheap.no matter what unit
you buy.If you can't take the time to make the time for your training no matter what rebreather you buy, you will not own one.However you try to
justify your decision about owning a unit, it comes down to this, you do it or
you don't. like my dear old Dad would say, "crap or get off the pot."

all the best.

9th March 2008, 21:40	#1 (permalink)
zzzzzzzz Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 100	What would it take for an interested to buy? Dear List, Here is a question for those watching from the sidelines and others who wish to share their experience in getting into rebreathers: What would it take to get you, the interested and non-owner, to buy a rebreather? Is there an element lacking that upon arriving on the scene motivated the purchase, or is there still something missing? The answer could be as simple as waiting for better survival statistics to waiting for a more natural breathing experience to some widget that practically dives for you and does the dishes. For many, this transition has already taken place and it would be nice to find out what that is. Thank you, z __________________ z
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10th March 2008, 15:57	#2 (permalink)
Buck-O-Five CK #287 Pursuit & HUD Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 271	Re: What would it take for an interested to buy? For me it was in the plans but the final straw was PEER PRESSURE. My 5 dive buddies all got rEvo's at the same time and left me standing there with double 130's and I started to feel like a PITA on our dives. Heavy noisy gear with very limited BT's, was not going to cut it with this group. I bought a CK a few months later. There is one buddy left who is in CCR training now and looking to buy.
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10th March 2008, 23:52	#3 (permalink)
zzzzzzzz Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 100	Re: What would it take for a prospect to buy? Buck O Five, Thank you for the reply, this is very good material. Would it be fair that there are distinct advantages over open circuit and there needs to be some human element? Perhaps it is the sense of acceptance of the technology or the overwhelming advantage still needs some tidbit? Are you able to provide some insight into what motivated the CK over your buddies' choices? Did you like the simplicity of the sensor display information? Did you want to avoid the complexity and "magic" of the ECCR? Thank you again for providing insight into your decision process! z __________________ z
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11th March 2008, 22:23	#4 (permalink)
Windwalker New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Portland Oregon Posts: 6	Re: What would it take for an interested to buy? Quote: (Originally Posted by zzzzzzzz) Dear List, Here is a question for those watching from the sidelines and others who wish to share their experience in getting into rebreathers: What would it take to get you, the interested and non-owner, to buy a rebreather? I am going to go with the every present "Time and Money" When I get the Time to take two weeks off for training, I will spend the money! ;p When that "Time" comes.. I am going to be one Happy Camper. Although.. None of my dive buddies dive rebreather, Hopefully I will start something. __________________ In the immortal words of Socrates... "I drank WHAT!?" - Real Genius
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12th March 2008, 04:15	#5 (permalink)
adstaa New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Port Douglas, Australia Posts: 24	Re: What would it take for an interested to buy? For me it's just down to having the $$$...and getting the nod from the finance minister I've already made my made up that I want one and have been doing a lot of research on different units, so I have a good idea of what I want in my own unit. Still not 100% settled on which unit I will get, but that's more just down to features and benefits. If I were to come into a decent sum of $$$ in the very near future I would certainly have one. __________________ Scuba diving is a very expensive sport that attracts some of the cheapest people in the world..... www.tech-dive-academy.com Great Barrier Reef For First Class Dive Training
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12th March 2008, 06:59	#6 (permalink)
nigelh New Member Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Brighton, Sussex, UK Posts: 838	Re: What would it take for an interested to buy? <confession> I suffer from sea sickness. I was getting royally browned off with blending a 'mix, spending the time hanging over the side revisiting breakfast while the others dived and then discovering it was exactly wrong for what we were planning next week. I either bought five spare twinsets or, heck, one of them new fangled rebreathery things. This was 2001. </confession> __________________ nigelh
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13th March 2008, 01:30	#7 (permalink)
kybrt too legit to quit Current Rebreather/s: rEvo Other Rebreather/s: rEvo Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Neuw Yawk Posts: 338	Re: What would it take for an interested to buy? <simpson> i bought the twinsets and the rebreathery. DOH!!!!!!! </simpson> __________________ Marv Fidelis Ad Mortem www.diveboatkaren.com
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13th March 2008, 03:00	#8 (permalink)
zzzzzzzz Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Earth Posts: 100	Re: What would it take for an interested to buy? You guys kill me, please keep the replies coming. You have my admiration wrt your confessions. z __________________ z
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13th March 2008, 03:16	#9 (permalink)
divepig2 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: pennsylvania, USA Posts: 10	Re: What would it take for an interested to buy? For me the expense is obviously an issue but I have another concern. I want to try these units before I buy. I wouldn't buy a car without driving it first (and some of my cars haven't cost as much as any of the commercial units) and I won't buy a rebreather without diving it. I have met people from Inspiration, Megalodon, Prism and KISS at a local trade show in each of the past two years. Following the shows, I called each to try and set up an "experience" with these units. The only people to even bother calling me back was KISS and they set me up with a shop that I got a lecture, teardown and about an hour in the pool. I dive a Dolphin and told them all I was looking to upgrade. It seems that if I wasn't ready to shell out the money for training right away, they weren't interested. I was quite disappointed. I hope others have had better luck than I have. Has anyone else run into this? Harrison
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13th March 2008, 03:32	#10 (permalink)
mountain diver Silent Lucidity Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: edmonton, ab. Posts: 214	Re: What would it take for an interested to buy? Owning a rebreather is something you do. If you think about owning one based on money, you will never own one, they are not cheap.no matter what unit you buy.If you can't take the time to make the time for your training no matter what rebreather you buy, you will not own one.However you try to justify your decision about owning a unit, it comes down to this, you do it or you don't. like my dear old Dad would say, "crap or get off the pot." all the best.
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