What would it take for an interested to buy?

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 13th March 2008, 03:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by divepig2)

For me the expense is obviously an issue but I have another concern. I want to try these units before I buy. I wouldn't buy a car without driving it first (and some of my cars haven't cost as much as any of the commercial units) and I won't buy a rebreather without diving it.
I have met people from Inspiration, Megalodon, Prism and KISS at a local trade show in each of the past two years. Following the shows, I called each to try and set up an "experience" with these units. The only people to even bother calling me back was KISS and they set me up with a shop that I got a lecture, teardown and about an hour in the pool.
I dive a Dolphin and told them all I was looking to upgrade. It seems that if I wasn't ready to shell out the money for training right away, they weren't interested. I was quite disappointed.
I hope others have had better luck than I have. Has anyone else run into this?
Harrison

There are frequent rebreather experiences throughout the year. You will see these events posted here on Rebreather World. I even seem to recall one or more at Dutch Springs.

If you are willing to come to Florida, I can arrange for one on an Optima for you.

lizardland · 13th March 2008, 09:15

For me it was simple logistics, being able to do a week of trimix cave diving in places where there is no infrastructure and be able to do that out of the back of a car i.e. not reliant on compressors, carting industrial helium & O2 bottles 1500km, etc. Basically, I wanted to change "expedition" to "holiday".

Originally, I started off on a homebuilt O2 rebreather for deco, went to homebuilds for diving (with variable results to say the least) to buying a KISS.

The breaking point was standing in the water in twin 20's and being unable to step up on to dry land without resorting to crawling & clambering.

The only thing which delayed my purchase was the wonderful British government who kindly tax heavily anything that isn't made in an arbitrary group of European countries. I had to wait for a used unit to become available within the EU.

Cheers,

Stuart

Tautaz · 13th March 2008, 09:27

For me, CCR was something strange in diving. I used CCR for firefighting so I know how to handle these in fire.

After a long way on learning about CCR, I decided to buy a rEvo but in fact this is too expensive to me for the moment.

So in Toulouse (France) there is a loooooot of engineer, mechanic and I know some persons in plastic factory and able to make electronic device so I started to make a project based on the Classic KISS.

I bought pieces (DSV, ADV) from board. Made parts from plan or redesigned some from photos and direct viz on CK, Orobouros or DDD.

Now it's close to be done but a new canister design is making me late; doesn't matter I learn a lot

After it will lower my load of moving a lot of stuff from my flat and let me use a sedan car instead of a minibus

Have fun with no bubbles

seeboth · 14th March 2008, 21:50

For me I've had a hard time finding a unit that satisfies everything I really want. There are plenty of great units out there, but they all seem to be missing something that I ant and for the price tag involved thats hard to swallow. Im probably just being picky, but for that amount of $$$ I want to be picky, most likely just the designer in my showing through.

Currently Im trying to find the unit that will most easily allow me to make the modifications I really want in the unit. If I wasnt such a chicken I'd probably just start out with a home build, but something in the back of my head keeps telling me I should get training on, and start with a standard unit.

-Al

mriopel · 15th March 2008, 01:48

I think most people think about the money and the fact that they kill more divers than OC, But walking is safer than driving and it cost a lot less. ( and driving kill's more people than walking) But guess what most people drive now days. The point is cost is not that big of a deal ,put $200 or so in the bank every month(buy less beer that will help) or find a rich girl or guy, and soon you have the money. But traning is key and top of my list.

Mike

Gilles · 15th March 2008, 12:40

In my case, I needed a strong incentive to recover from failed back surgery...

strange yep... but a laminectomy I had was at least successful in enabling me to carry weight again.

Without the Rebreather, I hate to think how I would've turned out. Surgery induced nerve damage weakened my lower legs, causing an end to beach volleyball, rugby, and other sports I truly enjoyed.

The tech diving provided the incentive I needed to swim some 4-6 km a week on a regular basis. Swimming laps is pretty boring, unless you have a good reason to do it, and this has provided it for me.

13th March 2008, 03:38	#11 (permalink)
*ScubaDadMiami* Moderator Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 2,074	Re: What would it take for an interested to buy? Quote: (Originally Posted by divepig2) For me the expense is obviously an issue but I have another concern. I want to try these units before I buy. I wouldn't buy a car without driving it first (and some of my cars haven't cost as much as any of the commercial units) and I won't buy a rebreather without diving it. I have met people from Inspiration, Megalodon, Prism and KISS at a local trade show in each of the past two years. Following the shows, I called each to try and set up an "experience" with these units. The only people to even bother calling me back was KISS and they set me up with a shop that I got a lecture, teardown and about an hour in the pool. I dive a Dolphin and told them all I was looking to upgrade. It seems that if I wasn't ready to shell out the money for training right away, they weren't interested. I was quite disappointed. I hope others have had better luck than I have. Has anyone else run into this? Harrison There are frequent rebreather experiences throughout the year. You will see these events posted here on Rebreather World. I even seem to recall one or more at Dutch Springs. If you are willing to come to Florida, I can arrange for one on an Optima for you. __________________ Howard Packer IANTD CCR Instructor Miami Beach, Florida CCRDiveTraining.com
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13th March 2008, 09:15	#12 (permalink)
lizardland Yak Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North... Posts: 1,255	Re: What would it take for an interested to buy? For me it was simple logistics, being able to do a week of trimix cave diving in places where there is no infrastructure and be able to do that out of the back of a car i.e. not reliant on compressors, carting industrial helium & O2 bottles 1500km, etc. Basically, I wanted to change "expedition" to "holiday". Originally, I started off on a homebuilt O2 rebreather for deco, went to homebuilds for diving (with variable results to say the least) to buying a KISS. The breaking point was standing in the water in twin 20's and being unable to step up on to dry land without resorting to crawling & clambering. The only thing which delayed my purchase was the wonderful British government who kindly tax heavily anything that isn't made in an arbitrary group of European countries. I had to wait for a used unit to become available within the EU. Cheers, Stuart __________________ Can you imagine drifting along in the sea with your mouth open and a load of f***ing plankton going in? You'd like it, would you? www.westons-cider.co.uk Azerbaijani Association of Technical Divers Publicity Officer and Goat Wrangler
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13th March 2008, 09:27	#13 (permalink)
Tautaz New Member Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Home Build Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Colomiers France Posts: 78	Re: What would it take for an interested to buy? For me, CCR was something strange in diving. I used CCR for firefighting so I know how to handle these in fire. After a long way on learning about CCR, I decided to buy a rEvo but in fact this is too expensive to me for the moment. So in Toulouse (France) there is a loooooot of engineer, mechanic and I know some persons in plastic factory and able to make electronic device so I started to make a project based on the Classic KISS. I bought pieces (DSV, ADV) from board. Made parts from plan or redesigned some from photos and direct viz on CK, Orobouros or DDD. Now it's close to be done but a new canister design is making me late; doesn't matter I learn a lot After it will lower my load of moving a lot of stuff from my flat and let me use a sedan car instead of a minibus Have fun with no bubbles
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14th March 2008, 21:50	#14 (permalink)
seeboth New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Wisconsin, United States Posts: 43	Re: What would it take for an interested to buy? For me I've had a hard time finding a unit that satisfies everything I really want. There are plenty of great units out there, but they all seem to be missing something that I ant and for the price tag involved thats hard to swallow. Im probably just being picky, but for that amount of $$$ I want to be picky, most likely just the designer in my showing through. Currently Im trying to find the unit that will most easily allow me to make the modifications I really want in the unit. If I wasnt such a chicken I'd probably just start out with a home build, but something in the back of my head keeps telling me I should get training on, and start with a standard unit. -Al __________________ yes those are double lp steel 121's on my back yes those are the main reason i want a rebreather
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15th March 2008, 01:48	#15 (permalink)
mriopel Sadly Missed (RIP) Current Rebreather/s: Optima Dolphin Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: usa Posts: 167	Re: What would it take for an interested to buy? I think most people think about the money and the fact that they kill more divers than OC, But walking is safer than driving and it cost a lot less. ( and driving kill's more people than walking) But guess what most people drive now days. The point is cost is not that big of a deal ,put $200 or so in the bank every month(buy less beer that will help) or find a rich girl or guy, and soon you have the money. But traning is key and top of my list. Mike
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15th March 2008, 12:40	#16 (permalink)
Gilles Worship the feminine Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Den Haag (Netherlands) Posts: 762	Re: What would it take for an interested to buy? In my case, I needed a strong incentive to recover from failed back surgery... strange yep... but a laminectomy I had was at least successful in enabling me to carry weight again. Without the Rebreather, I hate to think how I would've turned out. Surgery induced nerve damage weakened my lower legs, causing an end to beach volleyball, rugby, and other sports I truly enjoyed. The tech diving provided the incentive I needed to swim some 4-6 km a week on a regular basis. Swimming laps is pretty boring, unless you have a good reason to do it, and this has provided it for me. __________________ Gilles http://www.dirrebreather.com
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