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Old 6th February 2008, 18:07   #1 (permalink)
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LP Inflator Hoses?

I am planning to install LP inflation hoses on the regulators to all 4 of my bailout bottles. I want to be able to plug any tank into my manual add valves or my drysuit.

I understand that the drysuit inflation hose has a restriction to limit flow and the "wing" for easy release with gloves.

Does this mean that I will ned 2 hoses on each tank? One for manual add and a second one for drysuit?

I would really like to just use one hose for both applications.
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Old 6th February 2008, 18:30   #2 (permalink)
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Re: LP Inflator Hoses?

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I am planning to install LP inflation hoses on the regulators to all 4 of my bailout bottles. I want to be able to plug any tank into my manual add valves or my drysuit.

I understand that the drysuit inflation hose has a restriction to limit flow and the "wing" for easy release with gloves.

Does this mean that I will ned 2 hoses on each tank? One for manual add and a second one for drysuit?

I would really like to just use one hose for both applications.
Near as I can tell the hose that came with my DUi suit is the same except it has a large flare for easy gripping. I have used it on BCs, wings, a tire inflator, and my booster drive gas connection and no differance.

On the other hand not all your bailout would be appropriate for dry suit use anyway right? HE in a dry suit is a bad thing, and 100% O2 may be problamatic since the inside of a suit is not O2 clean.

DSS sells plastic hats that slip over normal BC connectors to make gloved hand removal easy.
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Old 6th February 2008, 18:31   #3 (permalink)
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Re: LP Inflator Hoses?

I use Inflator hoses at all of my stage regs. They fit at the manuell inflators at my CL and at my dry suit w/o any problems. But i use often a TX 21/35 and i don´t wont inflate my dry suit with Helium, becuase i think this was to cold for me. Here in Germany the realy interristing lake´s has no more then 5 -6 °C. And so the LP inflator hose´s are only for my CL.

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Re: LP Inflator Hoses?

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Near as I can tell the hose that came with my DUi suit is the same except it has a large flare for easy gripping. I have used it on BCs, wings, a tire inflator, and my booster drive gas connection and no differance.

On the other hand not all your bailout would be appropriate for dry suit use anyway right? HE in a dry suit is a bad thing, and 100% O2 may be problamatic since the inside of a suit is not O2 clean.

DSS sells plastic hats that slip over normal BC connectors to make gloved hand removal easy.
Poseidon and Apeks (old style) use different inflators. The large bore is fantastic, a little push and the dry suit is full.

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Old 6th February 2008, 19:05   #5 (permalink)
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Re: LP Inflator Hoses?

Pretty much what everyone said, Don - long story short you can just use one standard LP inflator hose on each BOB/reg. Attached to that one LP hose I also keep a donkey d*ck (tied to the hose and secured under the tank bungie, but not plugged in) for inflating lift bags - easier and safer than using your BO 2nd stage.

What BO gas you have in case of having to inflate your suit with it leads to the conversation of how you're inflating your suit now (on board dil?), what's in that bottle and whether you should be considering a 6CF bottle for suit gas ...? Nothing's easy, is it??
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Re: LP Inflator Hoses?

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Pretty much what everyone said, Don - long story short you can just use one standard LP inflator hose on each BOB/reg. Attached to that one LP hose I also keep a donkey d*ck (tied to the hose and secured under the tank bungie, but not plugged in) for inflating lift bags - easier and safer than using your BO 2nd stage.

What BO gas you have in case of having to inflate your suit with it leads to the conversation of how you're inflating your suit now (on board dil?), what's in that bottle and whether you should be considering a 6CF bottle for suit gas ...? Nothing's easy, is it??

Until I have it all figured out, I have my suit inflation from my bailout tank (21/35 or 32% depends on the dive). I intend to mount a tank and reg for inflation purposes only, but I do not like the idea of not having enough tank for 4 dives in a row. I just don't have alot of faith in such a small tank (6 cf is tiny).

The LP hose on the BO tanks will never be needed as long as all goes as planned
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Re: LP Inflator Hoses?

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Until I have it all figured out, I have my suit inflation from my bailout tank (21/35 or 32% depends on the dive). I intend to mount a tank and reg for inflation purposes only, but I do not like the idea of not having enough tank for 4 dives in a row. I just don't have alot of faith in such a small tank (6 cf is tiny).

The LP hose on the BO tanks will never be needed as long as all goes as planned
Don,

I use a 6 cf bottle for drysuit inflation in cold water and for wing inflation in warm water. You'd really be pushing it trying to get 4 dives out of it with a Dry Suit. I get two for the most part. Just wings.... Maybe four. Two choices here.... Buy two bottles & swap out after 2 dives, or just use the 6 until it's empty then pop on a hose from your B/O if needed..... not a great plan if you run out of air while you are descending on a deep dive. I've had to switch on my Drysuit a few times..... It's really not a big deal, if you practice it.

I've used trimix for suit fills on a regular basis and never felt colder than when using air.... But then again I have a lot of "Natural Insulation." I also don't see the value of using Argon... I personally think a lot of the hype is psychological. The Navy has done studies and they also agree with me.

As for the poster worrying about the inside of the suit not being O2 clean.....
you weren't serious about that, were you? Low pressure.... no need for it.

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Re: LP Inflator Hoses?

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Until I have it all figured out, I have my suit inflation from my bailout tank (21/35 or 32% depends on the dive). I intend to mount a tank and reg for inflation purposes only, but I do not like the idea of not having enough tank for 4 dives in a row. I just don't have alot of faith in such a small tank (6 cf is tiny).
It all depends on how you dive your drysuit - my man Richie uses his suit more for bouyancy, so he blows through a lot of gas ... in the suit too, I mean! Me's myselfs, I only put enough gas in the suit to take the squeeze off and I use my wing for bouyancy, so I can easily get 4 dives and usually a lot more out of 6CF tank.

My only thought about having your suit inflation from your BOB full time is ... what happens if for some reason you have to hand off the bottle? Now you have no suit gas ... just food for thought.
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Re: LP Inflator Hoses?

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It all depends on how you dive your drysuit - my man Richie uses his suit more for bouyancy, so he blows through a lot of gas ... in the suit too, I mean! Me's myselfs, I only put enough gas in the suit to take the squeeze off and I use my wing for bouyancy, so I can easily get 4 dives and usually a lot more out of 6CF tank.

My only thought about having your suit inflation from your BOB full time is ... what happens if for some reason you have to hand off the bottle? Now you have no suit gas ... just food for thought.
If I have to hand off my BO tank, then my dive is over and I am heading up. No more need for suit inflation.

I will be using a 6cf tank, but I want redundancy for my suit if it is necessary.
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If I have to hand off my BO tank, then my dive is over and I am heading up. No more need for suit inflation.

I will be using a 6cf tank, but I want redundancy for my suit if it is necessary.
Don

Well then it's time to get the HH CCR and then you can mount bigger tanks. You could be HH CCR diver #2.

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