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| Rebreather World Writer ![]() Current Rebreather/s: | Mexico - Q.Roo Cave Safety Officer Buletin yo all I got this mail from the Q.Roo cave safety officers who have formed that comite in order to co-ordinate their efforst Matt Quintana Roo Safety Officers Newsletter May 06 Fellow Cavern / Cave Divers welcome to the monthly Q. Roo Safety Officers Newsletter. The newsletter this month has information on the following topics: 1. Response to last months newsletter 2. Maintaining Consistency of Permanent Guidelines and Markers 3. Protocol for equipment left in the Cave 4. Removal of a Primary Reel from A Tunnel Maya Blue on April 20th 5. Vaca Ha Dive Site Cleanup 6. German Yañez Mendoza Cozumel Safety Officer 7. Cozumels Safety Officer Report Please feel free to forward this newsletter on to anyone you feel may be interested in it. Any questions, comments or suggestions concerning the newsletter should be sent via email to: qroocavesafety@hotmail.com Please note that responses to the monthly newsletter will not be addressed on a personal basis or by a particular individual, but on a board level after being discussed among the Safety Officers and will be posted in the following months newsletter. If you are not receiving this email newsletter directly and wish to be added to our mailing list please send an email with your full name and the word subscribe in the subject line. If you wish to be removed from the mailing list please send an email to with your full name and the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Thank you for your interest and help in making cave diving in Q. Roo safer and more enjoyable for all. Q. Roo Safety Officers Committee qroocavesafety@hotmail.com GUE - Safety Officer Daniel Riordan IANTD - Safety Officer Michael Silva Netto NACD - Safety Officer Chuck Stevens NSS-CDS - Safety Officer Steve Bogaerts NACD & NSS-CDS Safety Officer Cozumel German Yañez Mendoza 1. Response to last months newsletter We would like to take this opportunity to thank the cave diving community for the many messages of support and offers of help we have received in response to last months Introduction letter from the Q. Roo Safety Officers Committee. We will be asking for help in various projects we plan to undertake the first of which is a dive site cleanup at Vaca Ha (see item #5). We hope to see some of you there. 2. Maintaining Consistency of Permanent Guidelines and Markers One of the goals of the Safety Officers Committee is to maintain consistency of the permanent lines and markers within the cave systems of the area. This will be an impossible task without the cooperation and vigilance of the whole cave diving community. Unfortunately we are confronted by a long standing problem. That is certain individuals making changes to the permanent lines and markers in the caves to suit their own agendas without regard to anyone else. Having made changes the individual/s responsible has not bothered to notify anyone of them. It is extremely frustrating for all the other cave divers using the caves who will not then be aware of any changes that have been made to permanent lines or markers with which they were previously familiar until during the actual dive. Pre-dive plans can no longer be made with any degree of certainty as to the actual state of the permanent lines or markers and existing maps that may be being used as an aid for dive planning purposes are rendered out of date and no longer accurately represent the current situation. This behavior is at best selfish and at worst potentially unsafe and should stop immediately. The permanent lines and markers in the caves should remain consistent from dive to dive, week to week and year to year. In reality few if any changes are required to the vast majority of the permanent lines or markers within the caves here in Quintana Roo. We ask all cave divers to help maintain consistency in the permanent lines and markers within the cave systems by not changing them independently. Should anyone feel a change is needed to the permanent lines or markers for whatever reason then the following procedure should be used: 6. Contact the Quintana Roo Safety Officers Committee 7. The proposed change will be posted on the website once it is up an running and sent out via the monthly e-mail newsletter to as many people within the local cave diving community as is possible and opinions canvassed. 8. A decision about any change will be made based upon the majority view. 9. If a change is deemed necessary the safety officer committee will coordinate it, advance notice will be given of the exact change to take place and the date on which it will be made. 10. Upon completion of the change notification will be posted on the website and via the monthly newsletter and may also be posted at the start of the relevant permanent line/s and on site at the relevant cenote/s. As cave divers we have a responsibility to one another and to cave safety in general. If you should observe any changes to the permanent lines or markers while cave diving please report them too the Safety Officer Committee and include the following information: 7. Name of the cave system 8. Date on which the change was observed 9. The exact location in the cave where the change was observed 10. Details of the change made 11. Name of person who made the change if known 12. Names and contact details of any other cave divers on site who may be able to provide further information. This information will assist us in returning the permanent line and markers to there original condition as soon as possible and will also help to identify any individual/s responsible for making unauthorized changes. If any individual is found to be repeatedly making unauthorized changes the committee will contact their respective training agency/s and request that their cave diving certification be revoked due to unsafe behavior. Thank you for your assistance in this effort to make cave diving here safer. 3. Protocol for equipment left in the cave When planning and executing cave dives particularly circuits and traverses it is normal practice that equipment such as reels, personal markers and stage or deco tanks will often be left in the cave to be collected at a later date. Every effort should be made to recover equipment left in the cave in as timely a manner as possible. If it is planned that equipment will be left in the cave for an extended period beyond a few days then a note specifying ownership, contact information and the anticipated removal date should be attached to it. If for whatever circumstances equipment is left in the cave which the diver is unable to recover themselves then please email the Safety Officers Committee and we will arrange for its removal and return if possible. Equipment that appears to have been forgotten or abandoned having been left in the cave for a considerable time will be removed by the Safety Officer Committee. If ownership cannot be established it will be left with the landowner / gate person at the relevant site. 4. Removal of a Primary Reel from A Tunnel Maya Blue April 20th A primary reel connecting open water to the start of the permanent gold cave line in A Tunnel of Cenote Maya Blue (aka Escondido) Sistema Naranhal has been left in place for more than 6 weeks. The start of the line was covered in algae / bacterial growth and the s/s clip of the reel was starting to rust. The reel has no name on it and enquiries have been unsuccessful in identifying the owner. It appears the reel has been forgotten or abandoned. The reel was removed on April 20th and left with the gatekeeper at the Cenote Cristal (aka Naharon) together with an explanatory note. If anyone knows to whom the reel belongs please pass this information on to them. 5. Vaca Ha Dive Site Clean-up Anyone who has visited Vaca Ha to cave dive recently will have observed the large amount of trash at this site. Much of this has appeared since it was used by the construction workers during the widening of the Coba road. We are planning to spend a day cleaning up Vaca Ha on Friday 12th May starting at 10am and would be glad of any help received. Anyone wishing to help should contact Mike Netto (e-mail: mike@protecdiving.com cell #: 984-803-1168) as he will be coordinating the cleanup effort. 6. German Yañez Mendoza Cozumel Safety Officer German Yañez Mendoza who is the NACD & NSSCDS Safety Officer for the Island of Cozumel has joined the Q. Roo Safety Officers Committee and we would like to take this opportunity to thank German for his help. German will be providing information and news about safety issues relevant to the Caverns and Caves of Cozumel which will be included in the monthly newsletter and posted on the Q. Roo Cave Safety website once it is up and running. Please see this months posting from German below 7. Cozumels Safety Officer Report Recommendations from the Safety Officer for NSS-CDS & NACD in Cozumel Germán Yañez SAFETY PROGRAMS Currently there are several cavern warning signs being installed in the Cueva Quebrada System (exit to the ocean) and at the Chankanaab parks lagoon, where there are 2 cave systems that are easily accessible for recreational divers that visit this park. Wilma collapsed a section in the Cueva Quebrada System (exit to the ocean) inside the Chankanaab Park. At this time this section presents no danger for cavern or cave divers. The park is currently working on a safety program for the Cueva Quebrada System, which will be announced August 7th when the park is opening its doors officially STAE OF LINES Currently all lines are in good shape, except some tunnels in the Aerolito System, where a replacement is needed, for example: Part of the Bozanic Pit circuit and The Sulphur River Tunnel, the rest of the lines are in good shape. As soon as the changes take place we will let the community know with detail of where and when the changes will take place. FRAGILE AREAS We consider that all the cenotes in Cozumel are fragile. The simple fact that they are found on an island makes them a vulnerable place with a high risk of environmental damage. On top of all this, the visibility, size and flow found in them, make them a highly vulnerable place that could be affected by cave divers with poor buoyancy control. All the cenotes in Cozumel including Chankanaab (Lla Quebrada), Sistema Cocodrilo, Tres Potrillos etc. are considered fragile in their entirety This is the main reason we only use ONLY ONE site for training and critical skill practice. The rest of the cave systems are reserved for TRAINED cave divers with good buoyancy control. All the tunnels in the caves in Cozumel have very fragile speleothems. Help us with their conservation by practicing good diving skills. ACCESS TO THE CENOTES After Hurricane Wilma ALL the paths are open again, except for Cenote Sifa. I would like to thank Mateo Gutiérrez and Fernando Paulin for their support and volunteer work to open these paths again after Wilma. In the Sistema Cocodrilo a permit is required and a liability release form from the land owner must be filled prior to diving. The same applies to the Chankanaab System (La Quebrada) entering by the Ckankanaab park. It is prohibited to dive these places without a certification card as a Cavern, Intro to Cave or Full Cave diver. Currently ALL the caves in Cozumel are diveable and in perfect shape for cave diving. DPVs / STAGE BOTTLES The caves in Cozumel due to their reduced size, force divers to have great control over DPVs because it is very easy to damage the speleothems if the diver doesnt have good control or experience with their use. Because of this reason it is recommended EXCLUSIVELY for divers with proper training and with at least 50 logged dives utilizing DPVs. The conditions one might encounter, like visibility, flow and confined spaces require more attention than other cave systems. VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATIONS I World like to thank the NSS-CDS and the Universidad de Quintana Roo campus Cozumel (UQROO) for their support in conservation, education, as well as providing material to promote safe cave diving and to create environmental awareness in Cozumel Also people that volunteered after Wilma, as well as scientists that provide valuable information that can be used to better understand the cenotes in Cozumel: Dr. Luís Mejia UQROO Bill Rottella NSS-CDS Mateo Gutiérrez Fernando Paulin FINAL RECOMMENDATIONS The caves in the island of Cozumel have a complex navigation pattern, have multiple haloclines, with limited points of entry into each system, higher flow and the visibility is not as good as the caves in the Riviera Maya. It is important to mention all these differences to make sure all cave divers take them into consideration and plan accordingly and plan the dives conservatively and more detailed in aspects like gas management, complexity of the dive, nitrogen intake and mixed gas management. Please remove all NON BIODEGRADABLE garbage found inside the caves. If broken lines are encountered please repair them and/or let the Safety Officer know about it. Dont dive on your own. Make sure you have the adequate equipment for the dive. Do not make any visual jumps or blind circuits. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Re: Mexico - Q.Roo Cave Safety Officer Buletin Excellent report Matt. I cannot subscribe to the listing- password is required. Have a great day. Later, Andrew
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