New cave and deep cave exploration Thailand

andibk · 27th December 2005, 10:40

Just got back from the bottom less cave. Cedric and DrMike led the way, I followed a ways behind them. The old line left off at 120 meters and today they added new line to around 145 meters deep. Cedric said he would have gone a ways farther but did not see anything to tie off on, bottom time was getting short. Nothing was to be seen at this depth the room was that large. The deeper you got the better the viz got, quite amazing. Tomorrow????????

andibk

***Decodiver*** · 27th December 2005, 10:42

Excellent news guys keep the info coming and be safe......

It is nice to know, whilst sitting in snow covered Europe, that there are guys pushing exploration as we speak.

Good luck and be safe.

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

DrJM · 27th December 2005, 11:11

Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike)

Water is about 26 deg C. Started shivering at 48m.

26 deg celcius ? for the shallow ? nice for deco

what about the temp on the bottom ?

Well done to all of you three guys !!!!!

More man have been on the moon in compare of where you're heading

Thanks again for sharing your adventure

Jerome

Drmike · 27th December 2005, 13:33

Ahhh Mystery solved - Warm fuzzy narcosis had me convinced I turned at 150m depth. Upon surfacing my VR3 showed 145m and I just figured I must have been narked and turned early. That Narcosis must have just worn off now as I just realise of course my VR3 reads in sea water not fresh. So we did reach our target depth of 150m today after all

Now if I wasnt hobbling around like an old man feeling like a shaken bottle of coke Id be a happy man

[fizzzzzzzzz]

DrJM · 27th December 2005, 13:53

Other option Mike is that the VR3 didn't record the -150m if you were there for less than 10 sec (record intervall) but be reassure it would keep it in mind to calculate your deco

So what's the temp at the bottom ?

And more questions if you don't mind:

1) one dil gas all the way or different off board dil on the way up

2) wich PPo2 for travelling, bottom, and deco

Thks

Jerome

Drmike · 27th December 2005, 13:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by DrJM)

Other option Mike is that the VR3 didn't record the -150m if you were there for less than 10 sec (record intervall) but be reassure it would keep it in mind to calculate your deco

So what's the temp at the bottom ?

Jerome

Possibly - but I must have seen 150 somewhere - perhaps my Uwatec BT - IIRC thats calibrated in fresh water.

To be honest I didnt check (or notice) the temp at the bottom - I certainly didnt feel chilly during the descent. But Cedric could see my HID light beam shaking as I shivered during deco at 48m. I dont think Id be able to do much more in this cave without my drysuit.

Drmike · 27th December 2005, 14:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by DrJM)

Other option Mike is that the VR3 didn't record the -150m if you were there for less than 10 sec (record intervall) but be reassure it would keep it in mind to calculate your deco

So what's the temp at the bottom ?

And more questions if you don't mind:

1) one dil gas all the way or different off board dil on the way up

2) wich PPo2 for travelling, bottom, and deco

Thks

Jerome

He he - You should have seen us trying to pump Helium through the compressor using a large plastic bag!

We had to make do with what we could get.

We used 11L off board dil 8/65 all the way with no switch. Set point 1.3 for whole dive pumping it up to 1.6 during last half of 6m stop.

DrJM · 27th December 2005, 14:26

Thanks for the info Mike

? any fishies in the pond or little tiny shrimps (nyphargus type) shallow or deep ?

? any latteral galleries ?

? can you feel any flow ?

? did you give a name to that cave ?

Sorry I'm bored at work under the snow north London

Congratulations to all of you three

Jerome

jdz · 27th December 2005, 20:05

Hi Mike.
Did you use your VR3 to deco on, (and what setting) or did you cut tables...?
Cheers, and well done guys...
JDZ

***Decodiver*** · 27th December 2005, 20:13

Quote: (Originally Posted by jdz)

Hi Mike.
Did you use your VR3 to deco on, (and what setting) or did you cut tables...?
Cheers, and well done guys...
JDZ

He posted earlier that they were using a VPMB schedule....

Cheers,

Dave Cooper.

27th December 2005, 10:40	#11 (permalink)
andibk New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Dolphin Azimuth Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Megalodon Classic Kiss Dolphin Azimuth Join Date: May 2005 Location: Thailand Posts: 155	Re: New cave and deep cave exploration Thailand Just got back from the bottom less cave. Cedric and DrMike led the way, I followed a ways behind them. The old line left off at 120 meters and today they added new line to around 145 meters deep. Cedric said he would have gone a ways farther but did not see anything to tie off on, bottom time was getting short. Nothing was to be seen at this depth the room was that large. The deeper you got the better the viz got, quite amazing. Tomorrow???????? andibk
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27th December 2005, 10:42	#12 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,181	I'm just jealous Excellent news guys keep the info coming and be safe...... It is nice to know, whilst sitting in snow covered Europe, that there are guys pushing exploration as we speak. Good luck and be safe. Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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27th December 2005, 11:11	#13 (permalink)
DrJM Deep Cave Explorer Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Join Date: May 2005 Location: France Posts: 344	Re: New cave and deep cave exploration Thailand Quote: (Originally Posted by Drmike) Water is about 26 deg C. Started shivering at 48m. 26 deg celcius ? for the shallow ? nice for deco what about the temp on the bottom ? Well done to all of you three guys !!!!! More man have been on the moon in compare of where you're heading Thanks again for sharing your adventure Jerome __________________ www.snoopyloop.com Deep Cave Exploration
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27th December 2005, 13:33	#14 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,325	Re: New cave and deep cave exploration Thailand Ahhh Mystery solved - Warm fuzzy narcosis had me convinced I turned at 150m depth. Upon surfacing my VR3 showed 145m and I just figured I must have been narked and turned early. That Narcosis must have just worn off now as I just realise of course my VR3 reads in sea water not fresh. So we did reach our target depth of 150m today after all Now if I wasnt hobbling around like an old man feeling like a shaken bottle of coke Id be a happy man [fizzzzzzzzz] __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment
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27th December 2005, 13:53	#15 (permalink)
DrJM Deep Cave Explorer Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Join Date: May 2005 Location: France Posts: 344	Re: New cave and deep cave exploration Thailand Other option Mike is that the VR3 didn't record the -150m if you were there for less than 10 sec (record intervall) but be reassure it would keep it in mind to calculate your deco So what's the temp at the bottom ? And more questions if you don't mind: 1) one dil gas all the way or different off board dil on the way up 2) wich PPo2 for travelling, bottom, and deco Thks Jerome __________________ www.snoopyloop.com Deep Cave Exploration
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27th December 2005, 13:58	#16 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,325	Re: New cave and deep cave exploration Thailand Quote: (Originally Posted by DrJM) Other option Mike is that the VR3 didn't record the -150m if you were there for less than 10 sec (record intervall) but be reassure it would keep it in mind to calculate your deco So what's the temp at the bottom ? Jerome Possibly - but I must have seen 150 somewhere - perhaps my Uwatec BT - IIRC thats calibrated in fresh water. To be honest I didnt check (or notice) the temp at the bottom - I certainly didnt feel chilly during the descent. But Cedric could see my HID light beam shaking as I shivered during deco at 48m. I dont think Id be able to do much more in this cave without my drysuit. __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment
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27th December 2005, 14:04	#17 (permalink)
Drmike Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Ouroboros Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,325	Re: New cave and deep cave exploration Thailand Quote: (Originally Posted by DrJM) Other option Mike is that the VR3 didn't record the -150m if you were there for less than 10 sec (record intervall) but be reassure it would keep it in mind to calculate your deco So what's the temp at the bottom ? And more questions if you don't mind: 1) one dil gas all the way or different off board dil on the way up 2) wich PPo2 for travelling, bottom, and deco Thks Jerome He he - You should have seen us trying to pump Helium through the compressor using a large plastic bag! We had to make do with what we could get. We used 11L off board dil 8/65 all the way with no switch. Set point 1.3 for whole dive pumping it up to 1.6 during last half of 6m stop. __________________ Cave diving is a sport Wreck diving is a sport Diving in general is a sport 'Rebreather diving' is not a sport its the delusional obsession with a highly dangerous and often inappropriate piece of equipment
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27th December 2005, 14:26	#18 (permalink)
DrJM Deep Cave Explorer Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Join Date: May 2005 Location: France Posts: 344	Re: New cave and deep cave exploration Thailand Thanks for the info Mike ? any fishies in the pond or little tiny shrimps (nyphargus type) shallow or deep ? ? any latteral galleries ? ? can you feel any flow ? ? did you give a name to that cave ? Sorry I'm bored at work under the snow north London Congratulations to all of you three Jerome __________________ www.snoopyloop.com Deep Cave Exploration
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27th December 2005, 20:05	#19 (permalink)
jdz Prism Cave Diver Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 219	Re: New cave and deep cave exploration Thailand Hi Mike. Did you use your VR3 to deco on, (and what setting) or did you cut tables...? Cheers, and well done guys... JDZ
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27th December 2005, 20:13	#20 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,181	Re: New cave and deep cave exploration Thailand Quote: (Originally Posted by jdz) Hi Mike. Did you use your VR3 to deco on, (and what setting) or did you cut tables...? Cheers, and well done guys... JDZ He posted earlier that they were using a VPMB schedule.... Cheers, Dave Cooper. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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