Frames/Stands: entanglement hazzard?

netmage · 23rd January 2008, 16:30

Quote: (Originally Posted by w ripley)

Tim:

Following my instructor's lead, I put an OMS 85 tank boot on the bottom of my canister, put a piece of wood inside for blocking, and used one ss hose clamp to hold it on. It raises the rig, is tangle free, inexpensive, and simply continues the Meg's canister profile. Being black, you don't even see it.

Bill

Yeah, but if you don't take it off after every dive, it'll trap water, pit and your can will fail its first hydro...

Hmmm, thats a solution worth some thought... My buddies carry around a small pelican box or a heavy chunk of wood for the boat racks...

Thanks for the feedback folks..,

-Tim

Dave O · 23rd January 2008, 20:19

I've seen the tank boot used on megs with differing degrees of success. Adding height to the can makes the unit even more top heavy, and very unstable on a boat. Our boat has wooden blocks on board for the benches since the captains both dive megs.

scunick · 24th January 2008, 05:29

I have been using a frame on my vision for a long time now and recently came to grips with one significant line trap in the design. While at 68m deep into a cave the line ran along the roof. I was the final diver in a group of 4. while moving through the passage the line snuck in between the frame and the Frame lid and stuck fast. After much waving of light my buddy gave me a hand and released the line. now all gaps are taped shut before dives with filament or line.

Cheers
Nick

mattmexico · 24th January 2008, 12:21

yo

I do not use or dive a stand as I think they do represent an entanglement issue. Further they put weight on my butt in cave diving. In cave diving as in any other form of diving I want to be in a horizontal position and don't need the weight on my but.

greetings
Matt

Ukon · 3rd February 2008, 15:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by gottrimix)

I have the Narked @90 stand and would recommend it. I have used it in Florida cave diving and also ocean wreck diving. It makes the Meg easy to get into, pick up, allows for easy sidemounting of bailout cylinders. I think if I was living in Florida Cave country I would not need the stand for cave diving. For the majority of the dives (off boats) we do here in the Lake, the stand is a perfect tool for the job. It is a bit pricey but is well made and excellent quality. I don't use the bottom of the stand to hold an Argon bottle since I don't want anymore weight in the ass end. I mount a small argon bottle to my dil bottle. Highly unlikely to be an entanglement hazard.

Hope this helps you decide.

I am curious about how you are sidemounting your bailout. Are you using an Armadillo or similar system, or are you clipping cylinders directly to the stand?

Thanks!

Don Ferrara

23rd January 2008, 16:30	#11 (permalink)
netmage Hello Kitty...... Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Coconut Creek, FL Posts: 351	Re: Frames/Stands: entanglement hazzard? Quote: (Originally Posted by w ripley) Tim: Following my instructor's lead, I put an OMS 85 tank boot on the bottom of my canister, put a piece of wood inside for blocking, and used one ss hose clamp to hold it on. It raises the rig, is tangle free, inexpensive, and simply continues the Meg's canister profile. Being black, you don't even see it. Bill Yeah, but if you don't take it off after every dive, it'll trap water, pit and your can will fail its first hydro... Hmmm, thats a solution worth some thought... My buddies carry around a small pelican box or a heavy chunk of wood for the boat racks... Thanks for the feedback folks.., -Tim Last edited by netmage : 23rd January 2008 at 16:36.
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23rd January 2008, 20:19	#12 (permalink)
Dave O Wreck Diver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NJ Posts: 104	Re: Frames/Stands: entanglement hazzard? I've seen the tank boot used on megs with differing degrees of success. Adding height to the can makes the unit even more top heavy, and very unstable on a boat. Our boat has wooden blocks on board for the benches since the captains both dive megs. __________________ Only people who bat for the wrong team wash their undersuits......... I wanna smell piss when I go diving, not ferkin' fabric softener! <decodiver> Schizophrenics never dive solo. My Blog
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24th January 2008, 05:29	#13 (permalink)
scunick Still Dangerous Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Vision Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: South Africa - Cape Town Posts: 69	Re: Frames/Stands: entanglement hazzard? I have been using a frame on my vision for a long time now and recently came to grips with one significant line trap in the design. While at 68m deep into a cave the line ran along the roof. I was the final diver in a group of 4. while moving through the passage the line snuck in between the frame and the Frame lid and stuck fast. After much waving of light my buddy gave me a hand and released the line. now all gaps are taped shut before dives with filament or line. Cheers Nick Last edited by scunick : 24th January 2008 at 06:22.
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24th January 2008, 12:21	#14 (permalink)
mattmexico Rebreather World Writer Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Optima RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss RB80 / Clone Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Mexico, Q.Roo, Playa del Carmen Posts: 752	Re: Frames/Stands: entanglement hazzard? yo I do not use or dive a stand as I think they do represent an entanglement issue. Further they put weight on my butt in cave diving. In cave diving as in any other form of diving I want to be in a horizontal position and don't need the weight on my but. greetings Matt __________________ N 20' 37.617' W 87' 04.693' www.andreaswmatthes.com
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3rd February 2008, 15:06	#15 (permalink)
Ukon New Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Northeast Posts: 42	Re: Frames/Stands: entanglement hazzard? Quote: (Originally Posted by gottrimix) I have the Narked @90 stand and would recommend it. I have used it in Florida cave diving and also ocean wreck diving. It makes the Meg easy to get into, pick up, allows for easy sidemounting of bailout cylinders. I think if I was living in Florida Cave country I would not need the stand for cave diving. For the majority of the dives (off boats) we do here in the Lake, the stand is a perfect tool for the job. It is a bit pricey but is well made and excellent quality. I don't use the bottom of the stand to hold an Argon bottle since I don't want anymore weight in the ass end. I mount a small argon bottle to my dil bottle. Highly unlikely to be an entanglement hazard. Hope this helps you decide. I am curious about how you are sidemounting your bailout. Are you using an Armadillo or similar system, or are you clipping cylinders directly to the stand? Thanks! Don Ferrara
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