St Sauveur Habitat stolen : (((

DrJM · 18th September 2005, 13:46

Our habitat left in July under the ceiling at -12m from Saint Sauveur have been stolen the last few weeks.

Photos are on
www.snoopyloop.com -> Saint Sauveur -> exped 2005

It's bulky and heavy underwater it would need minimum two divers, it won't fit in a car, a van or a trailer minimum would be needed.

Any informations, help on that subject would be welcome

Regards

Jerome@snoopyloop.com

***caveseeker7*** · 18th September 2005, 14:41

Sorry to hear that, Jerome. Hope you get it back in good shape.
And the thieves what they deserve.

Good luck.

P6017 · 18th September 2005, 15:04

Quote: (Originally Posted by DrJM)

Our habitat left in July under the ceiling at -12m from Saint Sauveur have been stolen the last few weeks.

Photos are on
www.snoopyloop.com -> Saint Sauveur -> exped 2005

It's bulky and heavy underwater it would need minimum two divers, it won't fit in a car, a van or a trailer minimum would be needed.

Any informations, help on that subject would be welcome

Regards

Jerome@snoopyloop.com

STICKY FINGERED SLUG BASTARDS, I HOPE YOU GET IT BACK INTACT.

***caveseeker7*** · 18th September 2005, 17:28

To make it a bit easier, here a picture of the stolen habitat from www.snoopyloop.com

Richard Harris · 19th September 2005, 03:38

While we are waiting for the habitat to come back Jerome, can you tell us a little about the DDD CCR? I looked at the website but it is all in French mon ami! It looks like a compact unit that would be well suited to side mounting. What have you guys used it for, is it commercially available, how much does it cost??

Mistral Gagnant · 19th September 2005, 08:56

HI Harris, I'm a DeepDevildivers members, and we made this rebreather for us. We made 9 units to have a lower cost, so we don't sale it. But we have one or 2 unit again in "stock"... (sorry for my bad english...but you know the frenchies "my friend"...

)

Depend of your need, because, we modified it, with 2 bags...and other small things...
Dr JM can realy speak about it in use, and I can try to explain you technical.

The Dimensions are near of a 12L bottle. You can put 3Kg of Lime. All connectic are Dragger parts.

You can contact me on mail : bertrand@deepdevildivers.com for more details. I'll try to answer you in english.

Bebert.

Richard Harris · 19th September 2005, 09:24

I have emailed thanks Bebert. Would love to hear from Jerome about the unit in the water.

DrJM · 19th September 2005, 10:50

Thanks for posting the picture of the habitat.

About the DDD:

Good points is that there is no glue every parts can be removed, cleaned, re greased. I do prefer the two bag options because having an exhale bag with an OPV help in case of water/saliva/humidity so easy to flush by overpressurazing the loop in the good position. ADV accessible manually so you can do a manual flush if PPO2 too high. O2 input before scrubber so good mix. O2 cells at the end of the loop so analysing a good mixed gas.

I'm using it as a BOB and after a lot of modifications in collaborations with the DDD guys I'm quite happy. Regading O2 you can put everything from a Kiss valvle to a metering valve ... Regarding electronic there is none it's a manual CCR, so 1 or 2 or 3 cells as you feel it

It's robust, mainly when I drag it on the floor between sumps

Rgds

Jerome

esc · 19th September 2005, 13:09

Hmm...

This is first time I see that kinda "habitat" and I suppose they are not really used much except for long exploration kinda things. Now as a person not knowing anything about it if I saw one unattended and without markings I would think:

"Ok who was the smartass that blocked half the cave tunnel with trash" and while I am too lazy to go as far as clean it off there, thought would come to my mind :P

That thing, while no doubt doing what it is meant to do, does look like trash. Sorry

So, while some might have cleaned it off to use for some purpose and know what it was, there just might be someone who thought he would make a favor for people removing it from underwater.

/esc

decoweenie · 19th September 2005, 13:58

Quote: (Originally Posted by esc)

...there just might be someone who thought he would make a favor for people removing it from underwater...

IMHO, outside of courses, a cave diver capable of diving St. Sauveur would be "smart" enough to know what it is used for.

Also, cave community is very small so most people would have known about DrJM expedition already.

18th September 2005, 13:46	#1 (permalink)
DrJM Deep Cave Explorer Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Join Date: May 2005 Location: France Posts: 344	St Sauveur Habitat stolen : ((( Our habitat left in July under the ceiling at -12m from Saint Sauveur have been stolen the last few weeks. Photos are on www.snoopyloop.com -> Saint Sauveur -> exped 2005 It's bulky and heavy underwater it would need minimum two divers, it won't fit in a car, a van or a trailer minimum would be needed. Any informations, help on that subject would be welcome Regards Jerome@snoopyloop.com
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18th September 2005, 14:41	#2 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,462	Sorry to hear that, Jerome. Hope you get it back in good shape. And the thieves what they deserve. Good luck. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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18th September 2005, 15:04	#3 (permalink)
P6017 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: USA Posts: 83	Quote: (Originally Posted by DrJM) Our habitat left in July under the ceiling at -12m from Saint Sauveur have been stolen the last few weeks. Photos are on www.snoopyloop.com -> Saint Sauveur -> exped 2005 It's bulky and heavy underwater it would need minimum two divers, it won't fit in a car, a van or a trailer minimum would be needed. Any informations, help on that subject would be welcome Regards Jerome@snoopyloop.com STICKY FINGERED SLUG BASTARDS, I HOPE YOU GET IT BACK INTACT.
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19th September 2005, 03:38	#5 (permalink)
Richard Harris Dr Harry Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 123	While we are waiting for the habitat to come back Jerome, can you tell us a little about the DDD CCR? I looked at the website but it is all in French mon ami! It looks like a compact unit that would be well suited to side mounting. What have you guys used it for, is it commercially available, how much does it cost?? __________________ "Harry" www.divedoc.net
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19th September 2005, 08:56	#6 (permalink)
Mistral Gagnant DeepDevilDiver Current Rebreather/s: Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Home Build Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: France - Cote d'Azur Posts: 36	HI Harris, I'm a DeepDevildivers members, and we made this rebreather for us. We made 9 units to have a lower cost, so we don't sale it. But we have one or 2 unit again in "stock"... (sorry for my bad english...but you know the frenchies "my friend"...) Depend of your need, because, we modified it, with 2 bags...and other small things... Dr JM can realy speak about it in use, and I can try to explain you technical. The Dimensions are near of a 12L bottle. You can put 3Kg of Lime. All connectic are Dragger parts. You can contact me on mail : bertrand@deepdevildivers.com for more details. I'll try to answer you in english. Bebert. __________________ Devil Dolby Digital A Deep Devil Diver http://www.deepdevildivers.com
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19th September 2005, 09:24	#7 (permalink)
Richard Harris Dr Harry Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 123	I have emailed thanks Bebert. Would love to hear from Jerome about the unit in the water. __________________ "Harry" www.divedoc.net
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19th September 2005, 10:50	#8 (permalink)
DrJM Deep Cave Explorer Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Join Date: May 2005 Location: France Posts: 344	Thanks for posting the picture of the habitat. About the DDD: Good points is that there is no glue every parts can be removed, cleaned, re greased. I do prefer the two bag options because having an exhale bag with an OPV help in case of water/saliva/humidity so easy to flush by overpressurazing the loop in the good position. ADV accessible manually so you can do a manual flush if PPO2 too high. O2 input before scrubber so good mix. O2 cells at the end of the loop so analysing a good mixed gas. I'm using it as a BOB and after a lot of modifications in collaborations with the DDD guys I'm quite happy. Regading O2 you can put everything from a Kiss valvle to a metering valve ... Regarding electronic there is none it's a manual CCR, so 1 or 2 or 3 cells as you feel it It's robust, mainly when I drag it on the floor between sumps Rgds Jerome
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19th September 2005, 13:09	#9 (permalink)
esc New Member Current Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 48	Hmm... This is first time I see that kinda "habitat" and I suppose they are not really used much except for long exploration kinda things. Now as a person not knowing anything about it if I saw one unattended and without markings I would think: "Ok who was the smartass that blocked half the cave tunnel with trash" and while I am too lazy to go as far as clean it off there, thought would come to my mind :P That thing, while no doubt doing what it is meant to do, does look like trash. Sorry So, while some might have cleaned it off to use for some purpose and know what it was, there just might be someone who thought he would make a favor for people removing it from underwater. /esc
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19th September 2005, 13:58	#10 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Quote: (Originally Posted by esc) ...there just might be someone who thought he would make a favor for people removing it from underwater... IMHO, outside of courses, a cave diver capable of diving St. Sauveur would be "smart" enough to know what it is used for. Also, cave community is very small so most people would have known about DrJM expedition already. __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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