My first screw up on Boris

***Decodiver*** · 25th June 2006, 19:11

Mike,

Once again thank you for your abject honesty and willing to share this.

What doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

I am glad you are still around so please do not leave this mortal coil soon.

I, for one, analyse everything. Even if it has been filled and anlaysed in front of me already.

9%? Thank feck yer still here....

Kind regards,

DC.

DrJM · 25th June 2006, 19:23

I told you cave diving is much more safe

Thanks for sharing and I'm glad you're still with us

My way of dealing with O2 and Dil is to use first OFF-BOARD gas

1) off board O2 I use a 3 lit (plenty enough for 6-8h)

2) off board Dil I use an S80 (plenty enough for deep dives w or w/out yoyo profiles)

3) if shit happen (ex your neck seal tank leak) it will usually be the off board tank or the QC6 => therefore you and your unit become independant from the outside world and depends only from your inboard to go up or back home

4) negative point, you'll have the Low O2 and Dil Alarm (white Led) flashing all the way, so your "visual" attention to other possible Alarms is nil, at least your jaw vibrating Alarm is still on stand-by (when vibrator work)

5) I prefer not to have key-coded QC6 therefore I can plug the O2 off-board on the dil connector, therefore from -6 (deeper if I'm happy to take the risk) I can trigger the ADV when I'll metabolise O2

PS before of O2 booster they can be very dangerous beast and bloop up your garage

PS2 get that bladdy HUD fixed, I know it's expensive but the HUD connector seems to be the solution ... even if the leds should not fail

Jerome

cedricverdier · 25th June 2006, 19:42

Hi Mike,

Glad you still alive for at least 2 reasons:

1. we still have so many wrecks and caves to explore together

2. you always have so many stories to tell and they sound so funny afterward.

But as I know what kind of diving conditions you should have faced during this trip, I clearly imagine that wasn't funny at all when it happened to you....

Cheers

rogeringebo · 25th June 2006, 20:03

Thanx for sharing!
Glad to hear that you are ok! Had a somewhat simular surfaceswim in the Baltic sea on friday.....makes one think one more time...
I need to get a second higher surfacemarker,more spools,longer line on the reel etc.....
Its good to get a "scary reminder" now and again to keep one on his toes...
/Rodge

***caveseeker7*** · 25th June 2006, 20:31

Spellbinding tale, Mike, when you screw up you really make it worth it.
Glad to see you got away with it, thanks so much for sharing it.

zepp · 25th June 2006, 20:43

Reading that made me shiver! As soon as you wrote you put air in you o2 tank I realised where this was going.
Glad you are OK.

SimonK · 25th June 2006, 21:08

Bloody hell, don't do things by halves do you!

db8us · 25th June 2006, 21:15

Thanks for sharing. Hell of a story.
Glad you made it !
You just survived a heart attack

CCR900 · 25th June 2006, 21:19

Very glad you got to tell us all about it. I for one will not forget your story in a hurry.....

I note you were using a full face, once you had broken the surface were you not tempted to just fully inflate your BCD to the max (dump anything that was weighting you down) and bail out on to good ol' surface air. All hine site ofcourse but just wanted to ask.

Thanks.....

Fil

PS I need to buy a set of those out board plugs in's, I have already run out of on board dil, 2 litres are just not enough when it gets bumpy on deco (I have learnt to turn off my ADV when it gets bumpy).

Mark Chase · 25th June 2006, 21:53

Great write up Mike I have had one or two really hairy exits on ladders and I know how you must have felt, but to add in to that the PP02 issue?? jeezz I am so glad you are fit and strong (at least you appear that way in your picks).

A good honest and open report that might alert others to the folly of being too good to bother with the simple stuff.

You want to stick to 200m caves M8 this OW stuff is far too dangerous

ATB

Mark Chase

25th June 2006, 19:11	#11 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,197	Re: My first screw up on Boris Mike, Once again thank you for your abject honesty and willing to share this. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. I am glad you are still around so please do not leave this mortal coil soon. I, for one, analyse everything. Even if it has been filled and anlaysed in front of me already. 9%? Thank feck yer still here.... Kind regards, DC. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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25th June 2006, 19:23	#12 (permalink)
DrJM Deep Cave Explorer Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: MK 15.X Join Date: May 2005 Location: France Posts: 344	Re: My first screw up on Boris I told you cave diving is much more safe Thanks for sharing and I'm glad you're still with us My way of dealing with O2 and Dil is to use first OFF-BOARD gas 1) off board O2 I use a 3 lit (plenty enough for 6-8h) 2) off board Dil I use an S80 (plenty enough for deep dives w or w/out yoyo profiles) 3) if shit happen (ex your neck seal tank leak) it will usually be the off board tank or the QC6 => therefore you and your unit become independant from the outside world and depends only from your inboard to go up or back home 4) negative point, you'll have the Low O2 and Dil Alarm (white Led) flashing all the way, so your "visual" attention to other possible Alarms is nil, at least your jaw vibrating Alarm is still on stand-by (when vibrator work) 5) I prefer not to have key-coded QC6 therefore I can plug the O2 off-board on the dil connector, therefore from -6 (deeper if I'm happy to take the risk) I can trigger the ADV when I'll metabolise O2 PS before of O2 booster they can be very dangerous beast and bloop up your garage PS2 get that bladdy HUD fixed, I know it's expensive but the HUD connector seems to be the solution ... even if the leds should not fail Jerome __________________ www.snoopyloop.com Deep Cave Exploration
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25th June 2006, 19:42	#13 (permalink)
cedricverdier S21 M.I.B. Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Worldwide! Posts: 497	Re: My first screw up on Boris Hi Mike, Glad you still alive for at least 2 reasons: 1. we still have so many wrecks and caves to explore together 2. you always have so many stories to tell and they sound so funny afterward. But as I know what kind of diving conditions you should have faced during this trip, I clearly imagine that wasn't funny at all when it happened to you.... Cheers __________________ Cedric Verdier PADI Course Director, ANDI-IANTD-PSAI-TDI-DSAT-DAN-NAUI-CMAS Instructor Trainer Trimix (CCR and OC) and Cave Diving Instructor Trainer www.CedricVerdier.com DIRrebreather member
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25th June 2006, 20:03	#14 (permalink)
rogeringebo Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Pelagian Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Pelagian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Stockholm Sweden Posts: 700	Re: My first screw up on Boris Thanx for sharing! Glad to hear that you are ok! Had a somewhat simular surfaceswim in the Baltic sea on friday.....makes one think one more time... I need to get a second higher surfacemarker,more spools,longer line on the reel etc..... Its good to get a "scary reminder" now and again to keep one on his toes... /Rodge
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25th June 2006, 20:31	#15 (permalink)
*caveseeker7* Who loves ya, baby Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Too far from Neverland Posts: 5,496	Re: My first screw up on Boris Spellbinding tale, Mike, when you screw up you really make it worth it. Glad to see you got away with it, thanks so much for sharing it. __________________ Cheers Stefan "Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.!"
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25th June 2006, 20:43	#16 (permalink)
zepp "Dyson with Death" daddy Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other CCR Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Other CCR Home Build Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: midlands Posts: 276	Re: My first screw up on Boris Reading that made me shiver! As soon as you wrote you put air in you o2 tank I realised where this was going. Glad you are OK. __________________ I'm not a bad person.....HONEST my homebuild photos http://www.rebreatherworld.com/photo...ery.php/cat/48 CLASSIC KISS #052
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SimonK Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cumbria UK Posts: 231	Re: My first screw up on Boris Bloody hell, don't do things by halves do you!
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db8us Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Other SCR Other Rebreather/s: Other SCR Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 226	Re: My first screw up on Boris Thanks for sharing. Hell of a story. Glad you made it ! You just survived a heart attack
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25th June 2006, 21:19	#19 (permalink)
CCR900 Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Ouroboros Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 332	Re: My first screw up on Boris Very glad you got to tell us all about it. I for one will not forget your story in a hurry..... I note you were using a full face, once you had broken the surface were you not tempted to just fully inflate your BCD to the max (dump anything that was weighting you down) and bail out on to good ol' surface air. All hine site ofcourse but just wanted to ask. Thanks..... Fil PS I need to buy a set of those out board plugs in's, I have already run out of on board dil, 2 litres are just not enough when it gets bumpy on deco (I have learnt to turn off my ADV when it gets bumpy).
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25th June 2006, 21:53	#20 (permalink)
Mark Chase I go down for ages Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,693	Re: My first screw up on Boris Great write up Mike I have had one or two really hairy exits on ladders and I know how you must have felt, but to add in to that the PP02 issue?? jeezz I am so glad you are fit and strong (at least you appear that way in your picks). A good honest and open report that might alert others to the folly of being too good to bother with the simple stuff. You want to stick to 200m caves M8 this OW stuff is far too dangerous ATB Mark Chase __________________ Is it supposed to make that noise ? I took my unit to the dive shop and demanded they bolt on every thing that would fit. Join my elite diving teem and get a Tshirt "Doing It Chasey"Hammerhead Eccr Advanced Diving System
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