Fatality in Devil's Eye Spring...

Nad · 11th March 2008, 22:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by Jim)

Respect and thanks to the recovery Team - a very difficult task in more ways than we can imagine.

Quote 100%

Condolences to Family and friends.

Nad

Shawn · 12th March 2008, 02:38

Does anyone know anything about this post, Who was the diver? I have talked to a couple of people who wanted to make that push...and I would hate for it to be one of them!!!

Posted on 3/11/08 by Ken Hill on Cave Diver's Forum:
>
> This is an IUCRR notification to the cave diving community that
> yesterday. At about 1230 noon, a diver entered the water in Devils
> System, Ginnie Springs. Later that day Ginnie staffers learned the
> dive was for the purpose of exploration beyond the Hinkel
> restriction. The IUCRR learned that the diver was configured in a
> rebreather with sufficient scrubber to last 10 hours and also a side
> mount/no mount rig for the effort needed to make a passage through a
> suspected new lead.
>
> The staff of Ginnie Springs reported the event to the IUCRR at 2130
> hours yesterday. They also reported a degradation of visibility
> within the system making recreational diving unsafe. A preliminary
> inspection dive revealed that the visibility issue was caused by the
> attempted exploration and at that time the diver discovered a
> fatality at about 3300 or more feet in the system.
>
> AT 0900 today an IUCRR recovery team extricated the body and later
> teams removed the individuals gear and paraphernalia used. Reports of
> the divers identity are being withheld at this time. The IUCRR
> extends condolences to the family. I would like to thanks Rose and
> Mark Meadows for their assistance, Lamar Hires the IUCRR Training
> Director and Jerry Murphy for their assistance in returning the body
> to the surface. The effort was enhanced by many others who gave
> surface support and diving assistance in this recovery.
>
> As per IUCRR policy, a full report is being prepared for the
> Gilchrist County authorities for their evaluation and review. Once
> their review is concluded it will be released it to the cave diving community.

Lancer4545 · 12th March 2008, 04:18

It always saddens me when I hear of a fellow diver not making it back to the surface alright.

Thanks to the crew who had the terrible task of recovering our brother from the depths.

Condolences to the diver's family and friends.

Lance

db8us · 12th March 2008, 13:01

Sad news and thanks to the recovery team.

I am curious if really a report will come out....

Joe · 12th March 2008, 13:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by db8us)

Sad news and thanks to the recovery team.

I am curious if really a report will come out....

Ken Hill has always been true to his word. If he says a report will come out I believe him.

phreaticus53 · 12th March 2008, 16:18

Report from the recovery divers is that the Meg he was using was TOTALLY flooded, one of his onboard O2 bottles (the one driving the solenoid) was empty, and that both his offboard 100 cu. ft. 'dil bottles were both empty.
He was found just inside a restriction at 3900', heading out, withing 10 ft. or so of an staged emergency bottle, one of three in the cave.

***EBT*** · 12th March 2008, 16:38

Quote: (Originally Posted by db8us)

Sad news and thanks to the recovery team.

I am curious if really a report will come out....

Im afraid to say I have to echo Micha's sentiment here. For seemingly valid reasons a lot of reports never make it into the public doman and valuable data/lessons are lost. Hopefully this one will be different.

Quote: (Originally Posted by phreaticus53)

He was found just inside a restriction at 3900', heading out, withing 10 ft. or so of an staged emergency bottle, one of three in the cave.

Whoa, thats the nightmare scenario.....

Sutty · 12th March 2008, 17:03

Quote: (Originally Posted by phreaticus53)

Report from the recovery divers is that the Meg he was using was TOTALLY flooded, one of his onboard O2 bottles (the one driving the solenoid) was empty, and that both his offboard 100 cu. ft. 'dil bottles were both empty.
He was found just inside a restriction at 3900', heading out, withing 10 ft. or so of an staged emergency bottle, one of three in the cave.

Tragic

My thoughts are with his family and friends.

Neil

***ScubaDadMiami*** · 12th March 2008, 17:07

Do you know if the DSV was open (and the reason for the flood)?

6Gill · 12th March 2008, 17:41

Out of the respect for the victim and his family I think it is grossly inappropriate to leak bits and pieces of info from the recovery team. Wait for the full IUCC report to be released to the cave community with the verifiable facts.

Quote: (Originally Posted by phreaticus53)

Report from the recovery divers is that the Meg he was using was TOTALLY flooded, one of his onboard O2 bottles (the one driving the solenoid) was empty, and that both his offboard 100 cu. ft. 'dil bottles were both empty.
He was found just inside a restriction at 3900', heading out, withing 10 ft. or so of an staged emergency bottle, one of three in the cave.

11th March 2008, 22:46	#11 (permalink)
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12th March 2008, 02:38	#12 (permalink)
Shawn Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR RB80 / Clone Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Kansas City Kansas Posts: 106	Rebreather death in Ginnie yesterday Does anyone know anything about this post, Who was the diver? I have talked to a couple of people who wanted to make that push...and I would hate for it to be one of them!!! Posted on 3/11/08 by Ken Hill on Cave Diver's Forum: > > This is an IUCRR notification to the cave diving community that > yesterday. At about 1230 noon, a diver entered the water in Devils > System, Ginnie Springs. Later that day Ginnie staffers learned the > dive was for the purpose of exploration beyond the Hinkel > restriction. The IUCRR learned that the diver was configured in a > rebreather with sufficient scrubber to last 10 hours and also a side > mount/no mount rig for the effort needed to make a passage through a > suspected new lead. > > The staff of Ginnie Springs reported the event to the IUCRR at 2130 > hours yesterday. They also reported a degradation of visibility > within the system making recreational diving unsafe. A preliminary > inspection dive revealed that the visibility issue was caused by the > attempted exploration and at that time the diver discovered a > fatality at about 3300 or more feet in the system. > > AT 0900 today an IUCRR recovery team extricated the body and later > teams removed the individuals gear and paraphernalia used. Reports of > the divers identity are being withheld at this time. The IUCRR > extends condolences to the family. I would like to thanks Rose and > Mark Meadows for their assistance, Lamar Hires the IUCRR Training > Director and Jerry Murphy for their assistance in returning the body > to the surface. The effort was enhanced by many others who gave > surface support and diving assistance in this recovery. > > As per IUCRR policy, a full report is being prepared for the > Gilchrist County authorities for their evaluation and review. Once > their review is concluded it will be released it to the cave diving community. __________________ WWW.DiveOne.net
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12th March 2008, 04:18	#13 (permalink)
Lancer4545 Closed Circuit Divers Aus Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cairns QLD Australia Posts: 574	Re: Fatality in Devil's Eye Spring... It always saddens me when I hear of a fellow diver not making it back to the surface alright. Thanks to the crew who had the terrible task of recovering our brother from the depths. Condolences to the diver's family and friends. Lance __________________ You can run but you can't hide! ISC Appointed Megalodon Dealer for East Australia http://www.closedcircuitdivers.com.au info@closedcircuitdivers.com.au
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Joe Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Florida, USA Posts: 240	Re: Fatality in Devil's Eye Spring... Quote: (Originally Posted by db8us) Sad news and thanks to the recovery team. I am curious if really a report will come out.... Ken Hill has always been true to his word. If he says a report will come out I believe him.
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12th March 2008, 16:18	#16 (permalink)
phreaticus53 New Member Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 43	Re: Fatality in Devil's Eye Spring... Report from the recovery divers is that the Meg he was using was TOTALLY flooded, one of his onboard O2 bottles (the one driving the solenoid) was empty, and that both his offboard 100 cu. ft. 'dil bottles were both empty. He was found just inside a restriction at 3900', heading out, withing 10 ft. or so of an staged emergency bottle, one of three in the cave.
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12th March 2008, 16:38	#17 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 1,855	Re: Fatality in Devil's Eye Spring... Quote: (Originally Posted by db8us) Sad news and thanks to the recovery team. I am curious if really a report will come out.... Im afraid to say I have to echo Micha's sentiment here. For seemingly valid reasons a lot of reports never make it into the public doman and valuable data/lessons are lost. Hopefully this one will be different. Quote: (Originally Posted by phreaticus53) He was found just inside a restriction at 3900', heading out, withing 10 ft. or so of an staged emergency bottle, one of three in the cave. Whoa, thats the nightmare scenario..... __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! Rebreather World Terms of service Real diving t-shirts for real divers
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Sutty Classic Kiss diver Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Glossop, Derbyshire, UK Posts: 775	Re: Fatality in Devil's Eye Spring... Quote: (Originally Posted by phreaticus53) Report from the recovery divers is that the Meg he was using was TOTALLY flooded, one of his onboard O2 bottles (the one driving the solenoid) was empty, and that both his offboard 100 cu. ft. 'dil bottles were both empty. He was found just inside a restriction at 3900', heading out, withing 10 ft. or so of an staged emergency bottle, one of three in the cave. Tragic My thoughts are with his family and friends. Neil __________________ Never forget that life is a finite resource.
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12th March 2008, 17:41	#20 (permalink)
6Gill Custom Title Allowed! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Washington state Posts: 115	Re: Fatality in Devil's Eye Spring... Out of the respect for the victim and his family I think it is grossly inappropriate to leak bits and pieces of info from the recovery team. Wait for the full IUCC report to be released to the cave community with the verifiable facts. Quote: (Originally Posted by phreaticus53) Report from the recovery divers is that the Meg he was using was TOTALLY flooded, one of his onboard O2 bottles (the one driving the solenoid) was empty, and that both his offboard 100 cu. ft. 'dil bottles were both empty. He was found just inside a restriction at 3900', heading out, withing 10 ft. or so of an staged emergency bottle, one of three in the cave. __________________ "It's a shame ignorance isn't painful!"
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