A Tale of Two Co2 incidents

**wedivebc** · 29th January 2008, 04:06

Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan)

what the heck is on your license plate there John? Is that in Canadian? eh?

Don't you do crosswords?
I get it John.

Gilles · 29th January 2008, 10:10

Quote: (Originally Posted by PacketSniffer)

Question: Why is medical sorb even being sold to divers?

Quote: (Originally Posted by RebreatherNut)

But on the other hand, there are probably one or even two hand full of divers here on the board who use Spherasorb. Yes, it is Medical Sorb, (not low-flow!) and I have used Spherasorb myself and I never had any negative experiences with it.

Where I'm at, it is very difficult to get anything but Spherasorb (a well known medical sorb). It does work very good and is proven at least as good as coarse grade diving sorb (IMHO somewhere between coarse and fine grade).

In any case, if there's a choice between medical and diving sorb to use in an OH environment, I'll not repeat previous practise and would now choose the latter.

Pelagian · 29th January 2008, 10:55

Thanks for the write up M8Y. Always excellent to have more real world experiences. Glad everyones ok.

A question: I remember when you first showed me your FFM and we'd talked about bailing out just by breathing through your nose with a 2nd stage plugged into the side of the mask. Do you not find this sustainable?

Have you found it still necessary to then switch to another gas source?

Seb

michael · 29th January 2008, 11:23

Good learning experience, thanks for writing this down.

michael

**jiseson** · 29th January 2008, 13:17

i fail to understand-u spend a tidy sum on a rebreather-all the bells and wistles-yet u try and save some $$ on the very thing ur life depends on-maybe $5 a dive-bizarre! all the rebreather manufacturers warn against-yet some say-u got away with it on some previous dives-so it must be ok. order it at the store here if u can't get it locally-or -just don't dive!

Gilles · 29th January 2008, 23:40

Quote: (Originally Posted by jiseson)

i fail to understand-u spend a tidy sum on a rebreather-all the bells and wistles-yet u try and save some $$ on the very thing ur life depends on-maybe $5 a dive-bizarre! all the rebreather manufacturers warn against-yet some say-u got away with it on some previous dives-so it must be ok. order it at the store here if u can't get it locally-or -just don't dive!

Spoken like someone who has never tried shipping 20Kg packages of irritant chemical, and has never dealt with partially competent courier/shippers, and customs agents, and has always had the luxury of being in a highly urbanized environment

. No offence

but try living in the boonies somewhere way outside your own border(s).

**mattmexico** · 29th January 2008, 23:52

yo

The medical sorb used during that dive was - MALLINCKRODT MEDICAL - out of St. Luis, USA.

The medical sorb is at times the only sorb we can get here locally inside Mexico without importing our own, which we do by the pallet.

I have used that particular medical sorb for some time, never deep, never cold, never long, mostly in an axial canister with never a problem.

I am just totally glad and happy that nothing serious happend on that dive.

greetings
Matt

**jiseson** · 29th January 2008, 23:55

Quote: (Originally Posted by mattmexico)

yo

The medical sorb used during that dive was - MALLINCKRODT MEDICAL - out of St. Luis, USA.

The medical sorb is at times the only sorb we can get here locally inside Mexico without importing our own, which we do by the pallet.

I have used that particular medical sorb for some time, never deep, never cold, never long, mostly in an axial canister with never a problem.

I am just totally glad and happy that nothing serious happend on that dive.

greetings
Matt

and yet every rig manufacturer says not to use it! just adding a neg to the equation. i will go my way. cheers

**jiseson** · 30th January 2008, 00:01

one last question-when you teach-do you tell your students it's ok to use med sorb too? do the manufacturers' know that? is n't that a liability issue?

**Gill Envy** · 30th January 2008, 00:50

Thanks Ron, great write up, have some green. Makes me want to get those ankle weights out from behind the counter lungs

.

29th January 2008, 04:06	#21 (permalink)
wedivebc Dave Tomblin Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada Posts: 1,507	Re: A Tale of Two Co2 incidents Quote: (Originally Posted by RonMicjan) what the heck is on your license plate there John? Is that in Canadian? eh? Don't you do crosswords? I get it John. __________________ Cheers, Dave.... Man is the only animal burdened with the knowledge he will eventually die
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29th January 2008, 10:10	#22 (permalink)
Gilles Worship the feminine Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Den Haag (Netherlands) Posts: 762	Re: A Tale of Two Co2 incidents Quote: (Originally Posted by PacketSniffer) Question: Why is medical sorb even being sold to divers? Quote: (Originally Posted by RebreatherNut) But on the other hand, there are probably one or even two hand full of divers here on the board who use Spherasorb. Yes, it is Medical Sorb, (not low-flow!) and I have used Spherasorb myself and I never had any negative experiences with it. Where I'm at, it is very difficult to get anything but Spherasorb (a well known medical sorb). It does work very good and is proven at least as good as coarse grade diving sorb (IMHO somewhere between coarse and fine grade). In any case, if there's a choice between medical and diving sorb to use in an OH environment, I'll not repeat previous practise and would now choose the latter. __________________ Gilles http://www.dirrebreather.com
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29th January 2008, 10:55	#23 (permalink)
Pelagian Multi-Circuit Meg Monkey! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Inspiration Vision Evolution Sport Kiss Optima Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Leeds, England Posts: 310	Re: A Tale of Two Co2 incidents Thanks for the write up M8Y. Always excellent to have more real world experiences. Glad everyones ok. A question: I remember when you first showed me your FFM and we'd talked about bailing out just by breathing through your nose with a 2nd stage plugged into the side of the mask. Do you not find this sustainable? Have you found it still necessary to then switch to another gas source? Seb __________________ 'Because... I was Inverted!'
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29th January 2008, 11:23	#24 (permalink)
michael New Member Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Denmark Posts: 50	Re: A Tale of Two Co2 incidents Good learning experience, thanks for writing this down. michael
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29th January 2008, 13:17	#25 (permalink)
jiseson DSIX/O2PTIMA Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: long island,ny Posts: 635	Re: A Tale of Two Co2 incidents i fail to understand-u spend a tidy sum on a rebreather-all the bells and wistles-yet u try and save some $$ on the very thing ur life depends on-maybe $5 a dive-bizarre! all the rebreather manufacturers warn against-yet some say-u got away with it on some previous dives-so it must be ok. order it at the store here if u can't get it locally-or -just don't dive! __________________ *Jonathan D Iseson*
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29th January 2008, 23:40	#26 (permalink)
Gilles Worship the feminine Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Den Haag (Netherlands) Posts: 762	Re: A Tale of Two Co2 incidents Quote: (Originally Posted by jiseson) i fail to understand-u spend a tidy sum on a rebreather-all the bells and wistles-yet u try and save some $$ on the very thing ur life depends on-maybe $5 a dive-bizarre! all the rebreather manufacturers warn against-yet some say-u got away with it on some previous dives-so it must be ok. order it at the store here if u can't get it locally-or -just don't dive! Spoken like someone who has never tried shipping 20Kg packages of irritant chemical, and has never dealt with partially competent courier/shippers, and customs agents, and has always had the luxury of being in a highly urbanized environment. No offence but try living in the boonies somewhere way outside your own border(s). __________________ Gilles http://www.dirrebreather.com
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29th January 2008, 23:52	#27 (permalink)
mattmexico PROTEC MEXICO Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Classic Kiss Optima RB80 / Clone Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Evolution Prism Topaz Sport Kiss RB80 / Clone Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Mexico, Q.Roo, Playa del Carmen Posts: 772	Re: A Tale of Two Co2 incidents yo The medical sorb used during that dive was - MALLINCKRODT MEDICAL - out of St. Luis, USA. The medical sorb is at times the only sorb we can get here locally inside Mexico without importing our own, which we do by the pallet. I have used that particular medical sorb for some time, never deep, never cold, never long, mostly in an axial canister with never a problem. I am just totally glad and happy that nothing serious happend on that dive. greetings Matt __________________ N 20' 37.617' W 87' 04.693' www.andreaswmatthes.com
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29th January 2008, 23:55	#28 (permalink)
jiseson DSIX/O2PTIMA Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: long island,ny Posts: 635	Re: A Tale of Two Co2 incidents Quote: (Originally Posted by mattmexico) yo The medical sorb used during that dive was - MALLINCKRODT MEDICAL - out of St. Luis, USA. The medical sorb is at times the only sorb we can get here locally inside Mexico without importing our own, which we do by the pallet. I have used that particular medical sorb for some time, never deep, never cold, never long, mostly in an axial canister with never a problem. I am just totally glad and happy that nothing serious happend on that dive. greetings Matt and yet every rig manufacturer says not to use it! just adding a neg to the equation. i will go my way. cheers __________________ *Jonathan D Iseson*
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30th January 2008, 00:01	#29 (permalink)
jiseson DSIX/O2PTIMA Current Rebreather/s: Optima Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: long island,ny Posts: 635	Re: A Tale of Two Co2 incidents one last question-when you teach-do you tell your students it's ok to use med sorb too? do the manufacturers' know that? is n't that a liability issue? __________________ *Jonathan D Iseson*
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30th January 2008, 00:50	#30 (permalink)
Gill Envy Shearwater Copis Divers Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Evolution Other CCR Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: seattle Posts: 1,347	Re: A Tale of Two Co2 incidents Thanks Ron, great write up, have some green. Makes me want to get those ankle weights out from behind the counter lungs. __________________ Gill Envy ...Because I wasn't born with gills! ><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>><(°>
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