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Old 24th January 2008, 16:22   #31 (permalink)
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Re: My thoughts on responding to a Rebreather drama!

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No it's not just you, you would be amazed at how different instructors teach different things, that's why I do a review of all Mod 1 skills before commencing a Mod 2. Even had one student tell me hadn't been taught to run the unit manually, on the cylinder valve, with a stuck open solenoid!!

I'm not saying this is the case here, but sometimes students go for the easy course, less complication, less chance of having to work hard.

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That's a very good practice. Guy I bought my Meg from was a little shaky on diving it. He said he was going to buy another in 6 months just wanted the cash as they were moving and building a new home. Didn't want to sell old home either so building up cash. Was buying a boat to. All across country.

He said when he got the new unit he was going to take the MOD1 class over. I had asked him a lot of question about the unit and some he didn't answer quite properly. Scarred me.

Great guy though. And his instructor was well regarded too.. Hopefully just needed a refresher course. Think he had dove it 3 months previous. And had traveled some with it.
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Old 24th January 2008, 16:26   #32 (permalink)
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Re: My thoughts on responding to a Rebreather drama!

Dave

Maybe youre right and I really am missing the point here, but..
As an example- most rebreathers are designed to be able to be"flown manually" in the event of an electronic control problem, the version I am talking about does not have a manual O2 addition to do this...why, because in the event of such a failure the hud would simply advise the diver to bail out.

This is the design of the unit for the market it is aimed at.

OK, so maybe you could achieve a measure of control by opening and closing the O2 valve (or whatever) if you really had to..fine and if that's part of my course then I will happy to learn it. But if I'm diving it and it says "bail out" then that's what I'll do, and if I wasn't going to use the Rebreather as it was intended I wouldn't buy it in the first place!

I'm not being condecending, but are you familiar with the specs and design philosophy of the Rebreather I'm referring to?
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Old 24th January 2008, 16:57   #33 (permalink)
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Re: My thoughts on responding to a Rebreather drama!

Hi,


Well, I think that I have read enough about this so far.

1- Different problems require different solutions and cannot always say that bailing out is always the best solution for all kind of CCR problems. Sometimes you might have a battery problem or a leaking hose or stuck solenoid or anything else which will require different thinking and problem solving, but I'm sure that MOD 1 will teach you different kinds of problem solving no matter with which organisation you take it with. You can think about different types rebreathers just as different types of cars. Eventually they all run the same, just some small modifications (Bigger engine, 2 doors instead of 4, etc.) So basically driving principles are the same.

2- I, personally, would NOT dive a machine that would ask me to Bail-Out at any point. Eventually all machines are (Dumb) and I would leave the last minute judgement to my BRAIN. It's like if you are flying an airplane which will ask you to jump out from the window using your parachaute or driving a car that will ask you to open the door and roll out while still running on the highway. That's the reason why we learn to dive the machines or fly the machines manually no matter how sophisticated the equipments onboard are.
3- Machines are (more or less) like women, you understand them better then you would be able to deal with them better. So unlike some people who think that the hours on the machine is what really counts. I would say build a better understanding and developing your knowledge would come first before counting hours then you will see things from more angles. I would say that Dave's experience is inspiring.

Finally, enjoy your course and dive safely.



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