Not a good dive

mempilot · 9th November 2007, 21:08

Mark,

Glad it all turned out. I blasted an eardrum off Grand Caymen at 30m about 4 years ago. I was winding down a sand chute to the wall and the world went funky. I completed the dive (probably foolishly), and was able to blow seawater out the hole on the boat like a circus trick. It was a painful plane ride home a few days later, and the antibiotics/recovery kept me out of the water for about a month.

Vertigo underwater sucks. Good job managing it.

Eric

Lab Rat · 9th November 2007, 21:52

Glad you are OK as well...wouldn't want to try and shoot a bag in an active shipping lane with a bad case of vertigo...so maybe holding the line turned out for the best.

Actually, you caught my attention with the reference to the Shearwater Pursuit...I am getting ready to order one for me and several more for clients...
What is this power problem of which you speak?

Thanks in advance.

Richard

bendomatic · 9th November 2007, 22:11

Did it ever occur to you that 11mins to 45m is too long and the dive should have been bailed before you got there? if it was questionable that you had missed the slack, wouldn't the current only be getting worse? glad it worked out ok, i've done one similar on OC and for me that's now a def no-no indication esp for Rebreather.

and i wouldn't dive with perforated eardrum, only asking for more serious infections/complications in middle and inner ear.

rachel

***Decodiver*** · 9th November 2007, 22:29

Mark,

Glad you got your sorry a r s e back safely!

Your honesty is admirable, have some green feller.

Cheers,

Dave.

bgpartri · 10th November 2007, 00:50

Quote: (Originally Posted by Lab Rat)

What is this power problem of which you speak?

We have found a few problems in the first version of the software. One of them is that the IrDA port can be left in a high power condition after a download. This kills the battery in a very short time. I think we have three people who have experienced this problem.

We are preparing an update that we will send out next week that will fix this problem and various other issues that our users have found.

We apologize to our customers for the inconvenience.

We test for months, but never seem to be able to find every bug.

Bruce

decoweenie · 10th November 2007, 08:51

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

Neurophen anti inflamatorys and a wadge of cotten wool to keep the crap out when i go diving tomorow

To be honest, I am surprised that you are still going out diving with a perforated eardrum after what had happened, but then I am not your Mummy...

Dive safe as if something to happen, there goes the perfect safety record of mCCR...

Mark Chase · 10th November 2007, 09:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

To be honest, I am surprised that you are still going out diving with a perforated eardrum after what had happened, but then I am not your Mummy...

Dive safe as if something to happen, there goes the perfect safety record of mCCR...

6m max Wraysbury training puddle fresh water line laying drills for cave course in Mexico (where its about 10m max). I am off in about an hour. If anthing goes wrong I will stand up

ATB

Mark

Mark Chase · 10th November 2007, 09:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by bendomatic)

Did it ever occur to you that 11mins to 45m is too long and the dive should have been bailed before you got there? if it was questionable that you had missed the slack, wouldn't the current only be getting worse? glad it worked out ok, i've done one similar on OC and for me that's now a def no-no indication esp for Rebreather.

and i wouldn't dive with perforated eardrum, only asking for more serious infections/complications in middle and inner ear.

rachel

Look i never said i was smart

Yes it did occur which is why we canned it in the end.

TBHonist we knew the wreck hadent been dived for at least 10 years and was an unknown so We wanted to take a quick look see on its condition size etc and decide id a second visit was warented. It is.

However conditions on the ascent exceeded our expectations on how bad it could be.

ATB

Mark

decoweenie · 10th November 2007, 09:36

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase)

6m max Wraysbury training puddle fresh water line laying drills for cave course in Mexico (where its about 10m max). I am off in about an hour. If anthing goes wrong I will stand up

Not fair, you set me up on that one...

Mark Chase · 10th November 2007, 09:45

Quote: (Originally Posted by Lab Rat)

Actually, you caught my attention with the reference to the Shearwater Pursuit...I am getting ready to order one for me and several more for clients...
What is this power problem of which you speak?

Thanks in advance.

Richard

Shut up Decoweeny, I know what your thinking

Richard

Basically it works perfectly unless you down load a dive. In which case it switches on the IRP which promptly drains the battery. I got through a brand new Saft in a couple of hours.

Since identifying the problem i have stopped down loading dives (hence the Suunto Printout and not the the usual lovely Shearwater one)

I haven't found any other issues with the unit (which rocks by the way) but I was being extra cautious on this dive.

It should be mentioned that Bruce suggested i didn't use the Shearwater on this dive. However, I decided to confirm the rest of its functions I needed to take it on a deco dive. 50m is an easy dive for me, I took 10ltrs of 18/45 and 11ltrs of 50 on a dive where id normally take two 7s. Plan was to use the HUD and Howard's VR3 to confirm the function of the Shearwater. I obviously didn't expect what happened next.

As it was the PP02 and deco functions appeared to work fine and i am still showing 1.4V on the power after the dive.

ATB

Mark

9th November 2007, 21:08	#11 (permalink)
mempilot Eric Stadtmueller Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Megalodon Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Ft. Lauderdale Posts: 1,708	Re: Not a good dive Mark, Glad it all turned out. I blasted an eardrum off Grand Caymen at 30m about 4 years ago. I was winding down a sand chute to the wall and the world went funky. I completed the dive (probably foolishly), and was able to blow seawater out the hole on the boat like a circus trick. It was a painful plane ride home a few days later, and the antibiotics/recovery kept me out of the water for about a month. Vertigo underwater sucks. Good job managing it. Eric __________________ Eric Stadtmueller, otherwise known as, MEM "Da Pilot"
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9th November 2007, 21:52	#12 (permalink)
Lab Rat New Member Current Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Dolphin Home Build Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Birmingham, AL, USA Posts: 14	Re: Not a good dive Glad you are OK as well...wouldn't want to try and shoot a bag in an active shipping lane with a bad case of vertigo...so maybe holding the line turned out for the best. Actually, you caught my attention with the reference to the Shearwater Pursuit...I am getting ready to order one for me and several more for clients... What is this power problem of which you speak? Thanks in advance. Richard
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9th November 2007, 22:11	#13 (permalink)
bendomatic Morgan's Mum Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 211	Re: Not a good dive Did it ever occur to you that 11mins to 45m is too long and the dive should have been bailed before you got there? if it was questionable that you had missed the slack, wouldn't the current only be getting worse? glad it worked out ok, i've done one similar on OC and for me that's now a def no-no indication esp for Rebreather. and i wouldn't dive with perforated eardrum, only asking for more serious infections/complications in middle and inner ear. rachel __________________ why deal with idiots on the net when you have to spend all day dealing with them at work.
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9th November 2007, 22:29	#14 (permalink)
*Decodiver* Administrator Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Geneva Posts: 2,194	Re: Not a good dive Mark, Glad you got your sorry a r s e back safely! Your honesty is admirable, have some green feller. Cheers, Dave. __________________ CCR/OC Trimix Instructor Trainer CCR Training to Mixed Gas in Switzerland, France, UK & Germany on Megalodon/COPIS-Megalodon/KISS/Sport KISS/Ouroboros/rEvo/Inspiration/Evolution/Sentinel www.zerogravitydiving.com Rebreather World Terms & Conditions
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10th November 2007, 00:50	#15 (permalink)
bgpartri CEO-Shearwater Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Classic Kiss Titan Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 421	Re: Not a good dive Quote: (Originally Posted by Lab Rat) What is this power problem of which you speak? We have found a few problems in the first version of the software. One of them is that the IrDA port can be left in a high power condition after a download. This kills the battery in a very short time. I think we have three people who have experienced this problem. We are preparing an update that we will send out next week that will fix this problem and various other issues that our users have found. We apologize to our customers for the inconvenience. We test for months, but never seem to be able to find every bug. Bruce __________________ http://www.shearwaterresearch.com Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment.
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10th November 2007, 08:51	#16 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Not a good dive Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) Neurophen anti inflamatorys and a wadge of cotten wool to keep the crap out when i go diving tomorow To be honest, I am surprised that you are still going out diving with a perforated eardrum after what had happened, but then I am not your Mummy... Dive safe as if something to happen, there goes the perfect safety record of mCCR...
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10th November 2007, 09:25	#17 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,853	Re: Not a good dive Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) To be honest, I am surprised that you are still going out diving with a perforated eardrum after what had happened, but then I am not your Mummy... Dive safe as if something to happen, there goes the perfect safety record of mCCR... 6m max Wraysbury training puddle fresh water line laying drills for cave course in Mexico (where its about 10m max). I am off in about an hour. If anthing goes wrong I will stand up ATB Mark __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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10th November 2007, 09:31	#18 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,853	Re: Not a good dive Quote: (Originally Posted by bendomatic) Did it ever occur to you that 11mins to 45m is too long and the dive should have been bailed before you got there? if it was questionable that you had missed the slack, wouldn't the current only be getting worse? glad it worked out ok, i've done one similar on OC and for me that's now a def no-no indication esp for Rebreather. and i wouldn't dive with perforated eardrum, only asking for more serious infections/complications in middle and inner ear. rachel Look i never said i was smart Yes it did occur which is why we canned it in the end. TBHonist we knew the wreck hadent been dived for at least 10 years and was an unknown so We wanted to take a quick look see on its condition size etc and decide id a second visit was warented. It is. However conditions on the ascent exceeded our expectations on how bad it could be. ATB Mark __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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10th November 2007, 09:36	#19 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: Not a good dive Quote: (Originally Posted by Mark Chase) 6m max Wraysbury training puddle fresh water line laying drills for cave course in Mexico (where its about 10m max). I am off in about an hour. If anthing goes wrong I will stand up Not fair, you set me up on that one...
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10th November 2007, 09:45	#20 (permalink)
Mark Chase RBW Member Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 2,853	Re: Not a good dive Quote: (Originally Posted by Lab Rat) Actually, you caught my attention with the reference to the Shearwater Pursuit...I am getting ready to order one for me and several more for clients... What is this power problem of which you speak? Thanks in advance. Richard Shut up Decoweeny, I know what your thinking Richard Basically it works perfectly unless you down load a dive. In which case it switches on the IRP which promptly drains the battery. I got through a brand new Saft in a couple of hours. Since identifying the problem i have stopped down loading dives (hence the Suunto Printout and not the the usual lovely Shearwater one) I haven't found any other issues with the unit (which rocks by the way) but I was being extra cautious on this dive. It should be mentioned that Bruce suggested i didn't use the Shearwater on this dive. However, I decided to confirm the rest of its functions I needed to take it on a deco dive. 50m is an easy dive for me, I took 10ltrs of 18/45 and 11ltrs of 50 on a dive where id normally take two 7s. Plan was to use the HUD and Howard's VR3 to confirm the function of the Shearwater. I obviously didn't expect what happened next. As it was the PP02 and deco functions appeared to work fine and i am still showing 1.4V on the power after the dive. ATB Mark __________________ See my "Doing It Chasey" video where I'm locked into a padded room, naked, with two ball bearings and within an Hour, I manage to lose one and break the other!!! Kevin Juergensen 16/11/08 [/quote]
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