Oriskany Accident

**wedivebc** · 20th August 2007, 13:02

Very sad news out of Florida Was this guy a member here?
Oriskany diver dies | Local News | pnj.com

Outlaw · 20th August 2007, 13:52

Quote: (Originally Posted by wedivebc)

Very sad news out of Florida Was this guy a member here?
Oriskany diver dies | Local News | pnj.com

dont know but it doesn't really matter. my sympathy to the family and friends.

Spyros.

tibby · 20th August 2007, 14:04

Condolences to the family. Sad news.
The article didn't mentioned OC or CC, did it?
Tibby

hchoat · 20th August 2007, 14:07

Quote: (Originally Posted by tibby)

Condolences to the family. Sad news.
The article didn't mentioned OC or CC, did it?
Tibby

Closed- Optima. I was there (on another boat) and saw them getting into the water.

tibby · 20th August 2007, 14:19

Quote: (Originally Posted by hchoat)

Closed- Optima. I was there (on another boat) and saw them getting into the water.

Wow, thanks for clarifying... doesn't make it any better but thanks. I'll wait for details and hope to learn something.
Tibby

Skipbreather · 20th August 2007, 14:25

I’ve just spent several minutes reading both the article and- more importantly- the comments that followed it. What I took away from the comments after the article:

- The diver WAS diving on CCR. He & buddy appeared to be very much up to speed.

- Charter boat/ crew did a heroic job given the circumstances.

- The USCG does NOT have ANY helicopters available to rescue the general public on call in the area. Even at midday on a weekend when one might expect the public to be most active & potentially in need of rescue.

- The attitude expressed by one apparantly active duty Coastie- essentially “He got what he deserved”- is disheartening in the extreme. I truly hope it is not an attitude generally held in that service.

Ken

Explorer · 20th August 2007, 15:13

Condolences to the family also.

***sadave*** · 20th August 2007, 15:33

Guys, just hold back for a little bit, until we get some more facts...

The news article didn't state much detail, and the comments after the fact, are exactly that, just comments.

That news site is an open forum for comments, I could get on there right now, and post as "costguardrescuechopperpilot69", and have my say. Anyone can, and it appears they already have. Just because they have said they are xxxxxx, doesn't make them so. A few of the comments posted to that news article are a bit way outta left field.

Heather, thanks for the update from someone who was there, I hope it hasn't affected you too much, and we look forward to hearing any updates you can provide. I must admit, my first thoughts when reading that it was a pair of breather divers on the O, was "I hope it wasn't Brian and Heather".

To everyone else, lets wait until we get some more facts before pointing fingers.

In the meantime, condolences to the family and friends of the diver involved. Being an Optima diver, He was one of a fairly small and close community. I'm sure he was known to some on the board, my heart goes out to all of you. It's never pleasant losing a friend.

Thanks, Dave

Benthic · 20th August 2007, 15:35

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mixaddict)

<snip>
...it sounds like the USCG was very slow in responding. Even if this is not their primary mandate, who would or should be better equiped to respond to a life threatening situation like this? Maybe they were busy with other emergencies, who knows, but sending a boat and not a helo to an emergency 25 miles out, does not instill a lot of confidence for me.

<snip>

All,

For the record: The US Coast Guard does NOT have an SAR Helo unit in Pensacola. Their standard procedure is to respond with a boat as it's what they have available. I've heard that there is an SAR training unit in Mobile, but I don't know for certain. The point I'm trying to make is it's kind of silly for people to scream "Where was the chopper?!?!"

Folks, if you get hurt on the Oriskany there is no chopper coming--not from Pensacola anyway. Further you are likely going to be treated at Baptist Hospital here in Pensacola. If that means a chamber ride, be advised that they have monoplace chambers. Not that a monoplace is any less effective in it's treatment; it's not. But it's probably less comfortable than a multiplace.

Brian

Explorer · 20th August 2007, 15:41

Quote: (Originally Posted by Benthic)

Folks, if you get hurt on the Oriskany there is no chopper coming--not from Pensacola anyway. Further you are likely going to be treated at Baptist Hospital here in Pensacola. If that means a chamber ride, be advised that they have monoplace chambers. Not that a monoplace is any less effective in it's treatment, it's not. But it's probably less comfortable than a multiplace.

Brian

Good to know Brian. Thanks for the info. So bring lots of bailout gas, for sure.

20th August 2007, 13:02	#1 (permalink)
wedivebc Dave Tomblin Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Inspiration Classic Sport Kiss Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver Island BC Canada Posts: 1,444	Oriskany Accident Very sad news out of Florida Was this guy a member here? Oriskany diver dies \| Local News \| pnj.com __________________ Cheers, Dave.... Man is the only animal burdened with the knowledge he will eventually die
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20th August 2007, 13:52	#2 (permalink)
Outlaw In search of Law breaking Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Cyprus, Nicosia Posts: 634	Re: Oriskany Accident Quote: (Originally Posted by wedivebc) Very sad news out of Florida Was this guy a member here? Oriskany diver dies \| Local News \| pnj.com dont know but it doesn't really matter. my sympathy to the family and friends. Spyros. __________________ CMAS - IANTD - TDI Kamikazi Instrustor Trainer DIRRebreather Team Member ---------------------------- "Once an Outlaw, always an Outlaw"
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20th August 2007, 14:04	#3 (permalink)
tibby untitled Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2007 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 338	Re: Oriskany Accident Condolences to the family. Sad news. The article didn't mentioned OC or CC, did it? Tibby
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20th August 2007, 14:07	#4 (permalink)
hchoat Resident Selkie Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pensacola, FL- USA Posts: 227	Re: Oriskany Accident Quote: (Originally Posted by tibby) Condolences to the family. Sad news. The article didn't mentioned OC or CC, did it? Tibby Closed- Optima. I was there (on another boat) and saw them getting into the water. __________________ Duct tape is like the force... it has a light side and dark side, and it holds the universe together.
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20th August 2007, 14:19	#5 (permalink)
tibby untitled Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2007 Location: Salt Lake City, UT Posts: 338	Re: Oriskany Accident Quote: (Originally Posted by hchoat) Closed- Optima. I was there (on another boat) and saw them getting into the water. Wow, thanks for clarifying... doesn't make it any better but thanks. I'll wait for details and hope to learn something. Tibby
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20th August 2007, 14:25	#6 (permalink)
Skipbreather Reads the fine print Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Home Build Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet MK 15.X Home Build Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago, Illinois, USA Posts: 557	Re: Oriskany Accident I’ve just spent several minutes reading both the article and- more importantly- the comments that followed it. What I took away from the comments after the article: - The diver WAS diving on CCR. He & buddy appeared to be very much up to speed. - Charter boat/ crew did a heroic job given the circumstances. - The USCG does NOT have ANY helicopters available to rescue the general public on call in the area. Even at midday on a weekend when one might expect the public to be most active & potentially in need of rescue. - The attitude expressed by one apparantly active duty Coastie- essentially “He got what he deserved”- is disheartening in the extreme. I truly hope it is not an attitude generally held in that service. Ken __________________ "Entropy RULES! Enjoy the interim."
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20th August 2007, 15:13	#7 (permalink)
Explorer I will teach you a..... Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 773	Re: Oriskany Accident Condolences to the family also. __________________ 20 dwarves, 20 dwarves, 20 dwarves took turns doing handstands on the carpet
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20th August 2007, 15:33	#8 (permalink)
*sadave* Waiting... Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Not Bought Yet Classic Kiss Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brisbane, Queensland Posts: 1,041	Re: Oriskany Accident Guys, just hold back for a little bit, until we get some more facts... The news article didn't state much detail, and the comments after the fact, are exactly that, just comments. That news site is an open forum for comments, I could get on there right now, and post as "costguardrescuechopperpilot69", and have my say. Anyone can, and it appears they already have. Just because they have said they are xxxxxx, doesn't make them so. A few of the comments posted to that news article are a bit way outta left field. Heather, thanks for the update from someone who was there, I hope it hasn't affected you too much, and we look forward to hearing any updates you can provide. I must admit, my first thoughts when reading that it was a pair of breather divers on the O, was "I hope it wasn't Brian and Heather". To everyone else, lets wait until we get some more facts before pointing fingers. In the meantime, condolences to the family and friends of the diver involved. Being an Optima diver, He was one of a fairly small and close community. I'm sure he was known to some on the board, my heart goes out to all of you. It's never pleasant losing a friend. Thanks, Dave __________________ Wave!
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20th August 2007, 15:35	#9 (permalink)
Benthic MEGalomaniac Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Pensacola, FL USA Posts: 224	Re: Oriskany Accident Quote: (Originally Posted by Mixaddict) <snip> ...it sounds like the USCG was very slow in responding. Even if this is not their primary mandate, who would or should be better equiped to respond to a life threatening situation like this? Maybe they were busy with other emergencies, who knows, but sending a boat and not a helo to an emergency 25 miles out, does not instill a lot of confidence for me. <snip> All, For the record: The US Coast Guard does NOT have an SAR Helo unit in Pensacola. Their standard procedure is to respond with a boat as it's what they have available. I've heard that there is an SAR training unit in Mobile, but I don't know for certain. The point I'm trying to make is it's kind of silly for people to scream "Where was the chopper?!?!" Folks, if you get hurt on the Oriskany there is no chopper coming--not from Pensacola anyway. Further you are likely going to be treated at Baptist Hospital here in Pensacola. If that means a chamber ride, be advised that they have monoplace chambers. Not that a monoplace is any less effective in it's treatment; it's not. But it's probably less comfortable than a multiplace. Brian __________________ Well lit rooms will not repel determined beer ninjas. Last edited by Benthic : 20th August 2007 at 18:35.
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20th August 2007, 15:41	#10 (permalink)
Explorer I will teach you a..... Current Rebreather/s: Evolution Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 773	Re: Oriskany Accident Quote: (Originally Posted by Benthic) Folks, if you get hurt on the Oriskany there is no chopper coming--not from Pensacola anyway. Further you are likely going to be treated at Baptist Hospital here in Pensacola. If that means a chamber ride, be advised that they have monoplace chambers. Not that a monoplace is any less effective in it's treatment, it's not. But it's probably less comfortable than a multiplace. Brian Good to know Brian. Thanks for the info. So bring lots of bailout gas, for sure. __________________ 20 dwarves, 20 dwarves, 20 dwarves took turns doing handstands on the carpet
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