New HUD/Display for KISS and other RBs

Richard Harris · 11th September 2006, 08:36

The new HUD and Display for the KISS, Prism, Mk15s and homebuilds from Jason Machatton at SubSea Systems Subsea Systems Main Page is reviewed here on my website www.divedoc.net - Rebreathers - Read An Article Lots of info and photos. The article starts a little way down the page.

Conclusion: A very nice piece of kit and a must for KISS owners especially.

decoweenie · 11th September 2006, 09:04

Huhmmm... looks like I will need to change some procedures when using Jason's meter if it won't turn off when loop PO2 is > 0.4

I hope I won't forget one day, and the battery will be completely drained...

***EBT*** · 11th September 2006, 10:58

Looks very interesting. Its a shame you have to open it to calibrate the unit, but Im very impressed by the build quality.

RAL · 11th September 2006, 11:25

Quote: (Originally Posted by Richard Harris)

The new HUD and Display for the KISS, Prism, Mk15s and homebuilds from Jason Machatton at SubSea Systems Subsea Systems Main Page is reviewed here on my website www.divedoc.net - Rebreathers - Read An Article Lots of info and photos. The article starts a little way down the page.

Conclusion: A very nice piece of kit and a must for KISS owners especially.

Nice report Harry. Are these units shipping to the unwashed masses yet?

RAL

Richard Harris · 11th September 2006, 12:31

Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL)

Nice report Harry. Are these units shipping to the unwashed masses yet?

RAL

Yes I believe so. Easy to contact Jason through his website and he responds quickly.

The cal button on the back is accessed through a port plug so it it robust but like the on/off function, he has chosen to eliminate switches to decrease flood risk. The trade off is some loss of versatility. Arfetr using the breather turn off the O2 and breath the loop down below 0.4. The unit will then turn off in 6 mins...quick and easy. But I would probably prefer to be able to turn the displays on more easily without having to prime to loop with O2 to get the loop >0.4.

Pros and cons and time will tell!

decoweenie · 11th September 2006, 12:38

The easy solution is making the threshold programmable by the user. Some might like to turn it on/off at 0.3, and some at 0.5 for example...

Or may be even magnetic switch ?

**Bobmac** · 11th September 2006, 13:04

Great write-up. Thanks!

dive2dive2000 · 11th September 2006, 15:22

Nice write up thanks

Dutchy · 11th September 2006, 18:22

Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie)

Huhmmm... looks like I will need to change some procedures when using Jason's meter if it won't turn off when loop PO2 is > 0.4

I hope I won't forget one day, and the battery will be completely drained...

Not sure whether I'm over-doing it but at the end of the dive I close O2 manually add oxygen until the closed valve prevents any further flow and then flush the loop to make sure ppO2 is 0.21 to make sure my cell live longer. Could be fooling myself though....

decoweenie · 11th September 2006, 18:46

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dutchy)

...then flush the loop to make sure ppO2 is 0.21 to make sure my cell live longer...

I did that for the first couple of years diving CCR, then the following years had high PO2 in the loop the entire night before the dive and the entire day afterward until I cleaned the unit.

I didn't see any difference in sensor life.

Of course, there are people who "supposedly" remove their sensors, place in cold storage filled with Argon gas, etc to extend the life of the sensors...

11th September 2006, 08:36	#1 (permalink)
Richard Harris EXPLORER Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 133	New HUD/Display for KISS and other RBs The new HUD and Display for the KISS, Prism, Mk15s and homebuilds from Jason Machatton at SubSea Systems Subsea Systems Main Page is reviewed here on my website www.divedoc.net - Rebreathers - Read An Article Lots of info and photos. The article starts a little way down the page. Conclusion: A very nice piece of kit and a must for KISS owners especially. __________________ "Harry" www.divedoc.net Last edited by sadave : 10th October 2006 at 13:17. Reason: Make links obvious
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11th September 2006, 09:04	#2 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: New HUD/Display for KISS and other RBs Huhmmm... looks like I will need to change some procedures when using Jason's meter if it won't turn off when loop PO2 is > 0.4 I hope I won't forget one day, and the battery will be completely drained... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM Last edited by decoweenie : 11th September 2006 at 11:01.
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11th September 2006, 10:58	#3 (permalink)
*EBT* Apprentice Luddite Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Inspiration Classic Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: UK, Brighton Posts: 2,105	Re: New HUD/Display for KISS and other RBs Looks very interesting. Its a shame you have to open it to calibrate the unit, but Im very impressed by the build quality. __________________ Eagles May Soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines! RBW Terms of service
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11th September 2006, 11:25	#4 (permalink)
RAL Longbottom Time Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Florida Posts: 391	Re: New HUD/Display for KISS and other RBs Quote: (Originally Posted by Richard Harris) The new HUD and Display for the KISS, Prism, Mk15s and homebuilds from Jason Machatton at SubSea Systems Subsea Systems Main Page is reviewed here on my website www.divedoc.net - Rebreathers - Read An Article Lots of info and photos. The article starts a little way down the page. Conclusion: A very nice piece of kit and a must for KISS owners especially. Nice report Harry. Are these units shipping to the unwashed masses yet? RAL __________________ The sea does not care about you.
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11th September 2006, 12:31	#5 (permalink)
Richard Harris EXPLORER Current Rebreather/s: Classic Kiss MK 15.X Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 133	Re: New HUD/Display for KISS and other RBs Quote: (Originally Posted by RAL) Nice report Harry. Are these units shipping to the unwashed masses yet? RAL Yes I believe so. Easy to contact Jason through his website and he responds quickly. The cal button on the back is accessed through a port plug so it it robust but like the on/off function, he has chosen to eliminate switches to decrease flood risk. The trade off is some loss of versatility. Arfetr using the breather turn off the O2 and breath the loop down below 0.4. The unit will then turn off in 6 mins...quick and easy. But I would probably prefer to be able to turn the displays on more easily without having to prime to loop with O2 to get the loop >0.4. Pros and cons and time will tell! __________________ "Harry" www.divedoc.net
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11th September 2006, 12:38	#6 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: New HUD/Display for KISS and other RBs The easy solution is making the threshold programmable by the user. Some might like to turn it on/off at 0.3, and some at 0.5 for example... Or may be even magnetic switch ? __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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11th September 2006, 13:04	#7 (permalink)
Bobmac I'm working on it! Current Rebreather/s: Megalodon Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 102	Re: New HUD/Display for KISS and other RBs Great write-up. Thanks!
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11th September 2006, 15:22	#8 (permalink)
dive2dive2000 PRISM DIVER & LUVIN IT! Current Rebreather/s: Prism Topaz Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 796	Re: New HUD/Display for KISS and other RBs Nice write up thanks __________________ Safe Diving, Martin
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11th September 2006, 18:22	#9 (permalink)
Dutchy Rene Warries Current Rebreather/s: Sport Kiss Other Rebreather/s: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Nieuwegein (The Netherlands) Posts: 840	Re: New HUD/Display for KISS and other RBs Quote: (Originally Posted by decoweenie) Huhmmm... looks like I will need to change some procedures when using Jason's meter if it won't turn off when loop PO2 is > 0.4 I hope I won't forget one day, and the battery will be completely drained... Not sure whether I'm over-doing it but at the end of the dive I close O2 manually add oxygen until the closed valve prevents any further flow and then flush the loop to make sure ppO2 is 0.21 to make sure my cell live longer. Could be fooling myself though.... __________________ = This post is environmentally friendly. It is composed of 100% recycled electrons only. =
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11th September 2006, 18:46	#10 (permalink)
decoweenie Crash Test Dummy Current Rebreather/s: Other CCR Other Rebreather/s: Other CCR Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Cairo Posts: 5,487	Re: New HUD/Display for KISS and other RBs Quote: (Originally Posted by Dutchy) ...then flush the loop to make sure ppO2 is 0.21 to make sure my cell live longer... I did that for the first couple of years diving CCR, then the following years had high PO2 in the loop the entire night before the dive and the entire day afterward until I cleaned the unit. I didn't see any difference in sensor life. Of course, there are people who "supposedly" remove their sensors, place in cold storage filled with Argon gas, etc to extend the life of the sensors... __________________ "...after a while you get bored offering advice to a bull that like to keep butting the fence with its head rather than walking through the open gate..." - Rebreather World PM
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